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Sheriff Blocks FDA Inspectors From Raw Milk Farm by Doug85GT
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Report this Post02-19-2016 11:35 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Doug85GTSend a Private Message to Doug85GTEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
About time someone stood up to the feds. The Constitution gives Congress the ability to regulate intrastate commerce. If the commerce happens entirely within a state, according to the Constitution, Congress and by extension the federal government has no authority.

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Federal agents subjected a farmer to harassment and warrantless searches simply for producing raw milk, but a county sheriff took the farmer’s side and blocked federal agents from the property – and the sheriff is now speaking out.

The US Food & Drug Administration (FDA) and Department of Justice (DOJ) took the actions four years ago simply because the farmer was providing raw milk to an organic food co-op. The story is receiving renewed coverage because the Indiana sheriff, Elkhart County’s Brad Rogers, wrote a 600-word explanation for a local newspaper as part of his “Ask The Sheriff” series. Off The Grid News previously reported on the dispute.

Participants paid money into the co-op and, in return, received raw milk.

“It appeared to be harassment by the FDA and the DOJ, and making unconstitutional searches, in my opinion,” Rogers wrote of Uncle Sam’s treatment of the farmer in a column for the Goshen News.

Rogers said he became involved in the case in 2011 when the farmer complained to him.

“Specifically, the FDA was inspecting his farm without a warrant as much as every two weeks,” Rogers wrote. “Typical inspections occur annually. The Department of Justice (DOJ) had subpoenaed him for a grand jury in Michigan in which he was to bring his production documents. The Feds wanted to make this farmer an example.

“My research,” Rogers added, “concluded that no one was getting sick from this distribution of this raw milk. It appeared to be harassment by the FDA and the DOJ, and making unconstitutional searches, in my opinion. The farmer told me that he no longer wished to cooperate with the inspections of his property.”

Sheriff Confronts Feds

The sheriff then emailed a lawyer at the Department of Justice, writing:
“I understand that you have made recent requests to (the farmer) for documents and to appear before a grand jury, and he has had a number of inspections and attempted inspections on his farm within Elkhart County. This is notice that any further attempts to inspect this farm without a warrant signed by a judge, based on probable cause, will result in federal inspectors’ removal or arrest for trespassing by my officers or I. In addition, if any further action is taken by the federal government on (the farmer), while he is in Elkhart County, I will expect that you or federal authorities contact my office prior to such action. I will expect you to forward this information to your federal associates, including the FDA.”

Shortly after the email was sent, the farmer received a certified letter from the DOJ that said his grand jury subpoena had been cancelled. No federal inspectors have visited the farm since 2011.

“Your local elected officials … can stem the tide of federal overreach if they apply just a little backbone in supporting and defending the Constitution. Expect it! Demand it!,” Rogers wrote. “Some bloggers and natural food writers have hailed me as a hero. I’m no hero. I’m just doing my job.

“Whether you are conservative or liberal, I will be a guardian of the Constitution for you, and will not stand idly by while the rights of citizens of my county are trampled, whether by criminals or an overreaching government.”

Rogers also said the government has no business preventing people from drinking raw milk.

“Many of our parents/grandparents drank raw milk and survived,” he wrote. “There are risks with raw milk, but careful handling and storage will mitigate the risk. Many people believe that raw milk is healthier to drink than the pasteurized version. There is no law in Indiana that prohibits the distribution of raw milk in this fashion. In short, I don’t believe the government should be our nanny and telling us what we can or cannot drink/eat.”
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I used to be very much opposed to allowing farmers to sell or trade raw milk, but my thinking has changed on this subject over the last few years and decades, in part due to ever increasing govt over-reach, in part due to personal preferences and what I see as individuals' rights to free choice.
Unalienable--the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Some morons simply can't grasp the meaning of "unalienable".
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While it doesn't seem quite right, with my understanding of the Food Drug and Cosmetics act of 1938 which essentially chartered the modern FDA this does seem legal.

The farmer producing/distributing the raw milk would needs to be invovled with interstate commerce to be under the purview of the FDA. While the milk may only be distributed in the state of Indiana, the lilyhood is that the farmer recieved some assistance/equipment/tools used in the production of the milk from out of state. If the milking machine, the holding tank, or the bottles in which the milk is place, or even the cinder blocks used to build the barn are from out of state then that opens the door for the FDA to inspect the farmer/facility. FDA does not need a warrent under normal circumstances, they issue a form FDA-482 notice of inspection.

I am not a lawyer, not did I stay in a holiday in express last night, however this is my understanding of the law/regulation and how it is applied to food facilties. This isn't my opnion just my understanding of how the law is applied.
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Oh noes, raw milk! The kids will be snorting it, and even shooting it up! Woe is me!

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Convention of States

Article V of the Constitution.
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Originally posted by Hank is Here:

While it doesn't seem quite right, with my understanding of the Food Drug and Cosmetics act of 1938 which essentially chartered the modern FDA this does seem legal.

The farmer producing/distributing the raw milk would needs to be invovled with interstate commerce to be under the purview of the FDA. While the milk may only be distributed in the state of Indiana, the lilyhood is that the farmer recieved some assistance/equipment/tools used in the production of the milk from out of state. If the milking machine, the holding tank, or the bottles in which the milk is place, or even the cinder blocks used to build the barn are from out of state then that opens the door for the FDA to inspect the farmer/facility. FDA does not need a warrent under normal circumstances, they issue a form FDA-482 notice of inspection.

I am not a lawyer, not did I stay in a holiday in express last night, however this is my understanding of the law/regulation and how it is applied to food facilties. This isn't my opnion just my understanding of how the law is applied.



Hank,
It's going to take a slick lawyer to sell that one if I'm on the jury.

Be safe out there.


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Originally posted by maryjane:

I used to be very much opposed to allowing farmers to sell or trade raw milk, but my thinking has changed on this subject over the last few years and decades, in part due to ever increasing govt over-reach, in part due to personal preferences and what I see as individuals' rights to free choice.
Unalienable--the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Some morons simply can't grasp the meaning of "unalienable".


So you were a moron until you changed your opinion? Did you think you were a moron at the time? Would some calling you a moron have changed your mind, or made you stand by your beliefs?

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Originally posted by Fats:


So you were a moron until you changed your opinion? absolutely Did you think you were a moron at the time? positivelyWould some calling you a moron have changed your mind, or made you stand by your beliefs? undeniably

Brad

Yes

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Originally posted by Stubby79:

Oh noes, raw milk! The kids will be snorting it, and even shooting it up! Woe is me!



Yep, it's probably easier to grow marijuana in Colorado.
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