Although Muslims in the West and their useful idiot apologists would like us to believe that Islam is a religion of peace, the Islamic world has always been at war with free countries. However, there’s one politically incorrect president who showed the world exactly how to deal with the Muslim community.
Thomas Jefferson’s response to Muslims is something of which the current leaders in the West should take note.
Thomas Jefferson's Response To Muslims In 1801 Is Exactly What We Need Now.
Quite the opposite of the Obama administration’s kowtowing to their favorite minority’s whims, Jefferson sent a clear message to Muslims that the U.S. is no place for them to make demands, and we will never submit.
The First Barbary War in 1801 was the first of two wars between the U.S. and the Muslim Barbary States, the Ottoman provinces of Tripoli, Algiers, and Tunis. This war was declared on America simply because President Jefferson refused to bow to Islam.
According to Downtrend, when Tripoli attacked American ships and sold the crews and passengers into slavery, Jefferson asked Tripoli’s Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja why they unleashed unprovoked hostility. Adja explained that Islam:
“Was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Qur’an, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman (Muslim) who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.”
For around 15 years, America continued to pay the Muslim nations jizya, a steep religious tax forced upon non-Muslims by Islamists. However, when Jefferson became president, everything changed.
The Pasha of Tripoli demanded a yearly jizya of $25,000, an incredible amount of money in those times. Sending the message that America refused to bow to a tyrannical king and would never bow to another foreign entity, Jefferson denied their demands.
Insulted, the Pasha and the rest of the Muslim states declared war on America, much like the Islamic countries in the Middle East threaten today. However, this didn’t deter Jefferson from standing against this evil to defend what is right.
“Paying the ransom would only lead to further demands,” Jefferson argued in letters to future presidents John Adams, then America’s minister to Great Britain, and James Monroe, then a member of Congress.
“I acknolege [sic] I very early thought it would be best to effect a peace thro’ the medium of war.”
“The states must see the rod; perhaps it must be felt by some one of them.”
Jefferson responded to the Muslim states’ declaration of war by using the U.S. Navy to seize all of their passing ships and goods. When the Muslim states saw that Jefferson was serious and would not bow to their demands, Tunis and Algiers hastily abandoned the war and Tripoli. Tripoli was defeated in only 4 years.
Jefferson understood one thing that leftists and Islamo-sympathizers refuse to acknowledge — there should never be negotiation with terrorists or their supporters. There can be no caving to their demands or attempting to appease them as a step towards peace.
Because Islam cannot coexist with anyone who refuses to convert, pay jizya, or fully submit to Sharia law, we mustn’t convince ourselves that we should tolerate their advances. Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice, and it only staves death a little longer.
And thus the Marine hymn: 'From the Halls of Montezuma to the Shores of Tripoli ...'
If I recall my Jefferson, I think another feature of this event was that it was expensive to expand and deploy the Navy like this and Mr. Jefferson was of a very parsimonious bent as far as Federal Spending went ... at home he spent money like 'a drunken sailor' (Navy Vets, my apologies, no offense intended.)
And thus the Marine hymn: 'From the Halls of Montezuma to the Shores of Tripoli ...'
If I recall my Jefferson, I think another feature of this event was that it was expensive to expand and deploy the Navy like this and Mr. Jefferson was of a very parsimonious bent as far as Federal Spending went ... at home he spent money like 'a drunken sailor' (Navy Vets, my apologies, no offense intended.)
KInda... "To the shores of Tripoli" refers to the Battle of Derne--a battle that took place in April 1805. The Marines never actually went into Tripoli, tho the whole area was known as the Tripoli Peninsula. There were probably fewer than a dozen Marines in Eaton's "army".
An unspoken feature of this fracas, was that it was the very first time that an American President sent troops and ships into combat-without a declaration of war from congress. Congress was notified of the sailing to North Africa after the fact, at the next state of the union address--and that, was by letter in those days. Jefferson himself--in that letter--, stated he was on shaky constitutional ground by sending the ships and troops.
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......Among our Indian neighbors, also, a spirit of peace and friendship generally prevailing and I am happy to inform you that the continued efforts to introduce among them the implements and the practice of husbandry, and of the household arts, have not been without success; that they are becoming more and more sensible of the superiority of this dependence for clothing and subsistence over the precarious resources of hunting and fishing; and already we are able to announce, that instead of that constant diminution of their numbers, produced by their wars and their wants, some of them begin to experience an increase of population.
To this state of general peace with which we have been blessed, one only exception exists. Tripoli, the least considerable of the Barbary States, had come forward with demands unfounded either in right or in compact, and had permitted itself to denounce war, on our failure to comply before a given day. The style of the demand admitted but one answer. I sent a small squadron of frigates into the Mediterranean, with assurances to that power of our sincere desire to remain in peace, but with orders to protect our commerce against the threatened attack. The measure was seasonable and salutary. The bey had already declared war in form. His cruisers were out. Two had arrived at Gibraltar. Our commerce in the Mediterranean was blockaded, and that of the Atlantic in peril. The arrival of our squadron dispelled the danger. One of the Tripolitan cruisers having fallen in with, and engaged the small schooner Enterprise, commanded by Lieutenant Sterret, which had gone as a tender to our larger vessels, was captured, after a heavy slaughter of her men, without the loss of a single one on our part. The bravery exhibited by our citizens on that element, will, I trust, be a testimony to the world that it is not the want of that virtue which makes us seek their peace, but a conscientious desire to direct the energies of our nation to the multiplication of the human race, and not to its destruction. Unauthorized by the constitution, without the sanction of Congress, to go out beyond the line of defence, the vessel being disabled from committing further hostilities, was liberated with its crew. The legislature will doubtless consider whether, by authorizing measures of offence, also, they will place our force on an equal footing with that of its adversaries. I communicate all material information on this subject, that in the exercise of the important function considered by the constitution to the legislature exclusively, their judgment may form itself on a knowledge and consideration of every circumstance of weight.
I wish I could say that our situation with all the other Barbary states was entirely satisfactory. Discovering that some delays had taken place in the performance of certain articles stipulated by us, I thought it my duty, by immediate measures for fulfilling them, to vindicate to ourselves the right of considering the effect of departure from stipulation on their side. From the papers which will be laid before you, you will be enabled to judge whether our treaties are regarded by them as fixing at all the measure of their demands, or as guarding from the exercise of force our vessels within their power; and to consider how far it will be safe and expedient to leave our affairs with them in their present posture.
Thomas Jefferson's attitude towards Muslims: "Tough, but fair-minded"
On December 9th, 1805, Thomas Jefferson hosted the United States' first Iftar at the White House. It was an unintentional event, one that occurred as a result of Jefferson's scheduled meeting with an invited envoy from the Tunisian government. It was the end of the first Barbary War, and Jefferson was anxious to establish better diplomatic relations with the North African states while ensuring the security of American interests in the Mediterranean. Upon being informed of the envoy's fasting to observe the Islamic month of Ramadan, Jefferson had the mealtime at the White House changed from 3:30 in the afternoon to "precisely at sunset" in an effort to accommodate his guest. This gesture on behalf of the president was not simply a diplomatic one, but one that demonstrated Jefferson's familiarity and comfort with Islam, a faith that interested him since his time as a student at the College of William & Mary. . . .
Who said? Alexandra M. Brandon, Ph.D. Candidate, American Studies, College of William & Mary
we always surmised it was a liberal prez that began the practice of starting wars without congressional declaration of war and now, thanks to rinselberg, we now know it was also a liberal prez that began the smelly practice of bowing before and metaphorically kissing the filthy asses of a violent religious sect. I don't think this comes as a surprise to anyone.
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Thomas Jefferson's attitude towards Muslims: "Tough, but fair-minded"
On December 9th, 1805, Thomas Jefferson hosted the United States' first Iftar at the White House.
It was not an Iftar. True, Jefferson did move the time of the dinner but no attempt was made to furnish halal food or any other such muslim requirements. Also, did you know that upon his arrival in Washington, the Tunisian envoy Mellimelli's first request was for prostitutes?
Originally posted by TONY_C: It was not an Iftar. True, Jefferson did move the time of the dinner but no attempt was made to furnish halal food or any other such muslim requirements. Also, did you know that upon his arrival in Washington, the Tunisian envoy Mellimelli's first request was for prostitutes?
I welcome all researchers, and facts that can be documented are always of interest. I may Google on your comments (later), but in the meantime, if you would like to offer a source for this, "knock yourself out". At this moment, I neither accept this, or dispute this. I have it annotated with a "?"
Thanks Maryjane. that was exactly where I read it too. And I highly doubt it's not a reliable source coming form this site.
Revisionists are not worried about facts--they are too busy trying to make past events match a contemporary agenda--in this case, making the jump from trying to accommodate someone's schedule for eating on any particular date to= a full blown Iftar. It was not.
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(Progressive mentality) - It's all Jefferson's fault. Had he just complied in the beginning, we would all have coexisted peacefully at this point. It's America's fault that we're so evil, blah blah... Communists are great, the devil is wonderful... we need to eat babies after we kill them, blah blah.
