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Most Influential Rock Band? by BlackEmrald
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In your mind, who is the most influential rock band and why?

For me, it splits into two parties depending on what type of music you think is more prolithic.

The Beatles influencing the pop music scene, including pop music of today

Led Zeppelin influencing the harder side of rock, including all the forms of Metal.

Agree? Disagree? What say you?
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Agreed.

Many wanted to be like the Beatles but play like Led Zeppelin.

Rolling Stones for just longevity though.

Although I think Golden Earring holds the record of the longest active (original members) band in history that is still playing.

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Pretty damn hard to argue with your selection. There is some Excellent Digital Remasters out there of each group that just sound incredible. Currently I have in digital 3,900 Songs I consider cream of the crop, and the list is building. Most are very high quality digital and I even have HD Vinyl Master's in digital format of a lot of the same in a separate folder. The selection is just about all encompassing.

There is a hell of a lot of good music out there, however it's a task getting through all the junk.
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Wow, that's a really tough decision, but a great question!
Rock is so many things, to so many people, now spanning many generations.

I suppose, overall it would have to be the Beatles. Even though I was never a big fan, they pushed the envelope in so many directions and expanded the horizons for rock in general.

For me personally, it would have to be the Byrds and the Yardbirds. The Byrds led the way for country rock to follow, and the Yardbirds did the same for blues rock. I know they weren't the first with those sounds, but they were big enough to be an influence on an entire generation, and members from each went on to form other important bands such as Crosby, Stills and Nash, Cream and Led Zeppelin.

Rock was greatly influenced by people like Howlin' Wolf, Elmore James and T Bone Walker.



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Originally posted by BlackEmrald:

In your mind, who is the most influential rock band and why?

For me, it splits into two parties depending on what type of music you think is more prolithic.

The Beatles influencing the pop music scene, including pop music of today

Led Zeppelin influencing the harder side of rock, including all the forms of Metal.

Agree? Disagree? What say you?


Depends on your age and music "likes"
I don't see the Beatles as an influence other than a record company built band.. only thing the Beatles had going for them was the record company kept out of some of it and they had some freedom on the music, unlike later when they forced bands to fit a mold..

Led Zeppelin wasn't any harder than the Beatles just allowed to release more harder sounding music.. some of the Beatles stuff is very hard acid rock and heavy/dark.. were as zep had tons more folk like tunes
I will say that Zep, set the stage for the rock mold of singer that can howel and a guitarist that lights the fret board on fire..

For me, and my age group.. it be Van Halen and Ozzy , Kiss , and AC/DC Metalica Iron Maiden
Van Halen because he and his band brought rock back to the mainstream that had been littered in the 70's with punk and disco.. He brought life back into it, new sound, destroyed the rule book of guitar playing.
Ozzy, why because the hard rock/metal influence starts with Black Sabbath, and Ozzy solo took That and added the Lep mold of fret board killer.. now don't get me wrong Tommy Iomy is a great player, but he is more a groove player that was a mastor of tone.. didn't use odd ways of playing other than working around his finger loss, and used tone to make the playing that much deeper..

Kiss, why because they again changed everything.. not the best players and knew it Keep It Simple Stupid.. but brought you a performance 2nd to none.. They saw the stage act as more than just the music.. year before M TV made it a requirement..

AC/DC why.. it's straight ahead rock, no flash.. just crank it to 11 and go..

Metalica, no one took metal to the speed and edge that they did, and while the parents thought it was just another band of noise.. they had very deep messages in the songs, some very political.. yes other bands before them did the same, but no one put the words and used the sound in context as well to show the message.. They're partner in Crime with megadeth was even better at it,but not as big..
Pantera is metalica and black Sabbath rolled together and then set on a speed ball binge..

Iron Maiden, basicly said,, you think that's good, here we come with 2 fret killers and a bass player that thinks he is the lead guitarist..

now the other side of it is

Rush, Pat Benatar, Asia/etc

Rush because if you played drums or just the air drums.. Neil pert is to the drums what Eddie Van Halen is to the guitar..

Pat Benatar, she showed that a female can rock, and hard.. have an edgy sound and still be top 40 marketable... and last..

Asia took the keyboard guitar meshing to another level, Deep Purple did the same with an organ sounding keyboard, but Asia came along when the tech in keyboards was taking off.. and the sounds John Lord could only dream about were able to be brought to life.. Boston meshed the organ and fret board very well also.. were Purple was more darker sound,, Boston was more straight ahead party rock sound..

I could go on for days.. but I'd bore everyone..

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Originally posted by Wichita:

Although I think Golden Earring holds the record of the longest active (original members) band in history that is still playing.


Rush has got them beat by a few years.

My vote would be for Rush. Best. Band. Ever.

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Originally posted by Monkeyman:

Rush has got them beat by a few years.

My vote would be for Rush. Best. Band. Ever.


Rush's original drummer was John Rutsey.

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Alice,

https://youtu.be/2Oo8QzDHimQ

I give up posting you tube videos, I try but never get them to work.

Did get to meet him in person once, we had something's in common, we both owned corvettes and were Nuts ! Back stage passes and got to talk to him and sign something for us, interesting guy to say the least, not what you would think. Did you know he plays Santa class every charismas in the town he lives in? Actually a nice guy.

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Originally posted by 84fiero123:

Alice,

I give up posting you tube videos, I try but never get them to work.

Did get to meet him in person once, we had something's in common, we both owned corvettes and were Nuts !


That reminds me.... Marilyn Manson owned a Fiero in the early days. I wonder if he was ever a forum member?

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That reminds me.... Marilyn Manson owned a Fiero in the early days. I wonder if he was ever a forum member?


No idea, we didn't talk about Fiero's, he had a anniversary edition vet and we talked about them. I had a 76 stingray at the time.

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What is rock music? https://joshtrimble.wordpre...ology-of-rock-music/

The real influential musicians have been dead a long time.


Actually written by Christian Petzold but attributed to Bach.



Songs that inspired the Beatles http://www.vh1.com/music/tu...ed-beatles-classics/
http://www.reasontorock.com/artists/beatles.html

http://happynicetimepeople....eppelins-influences/

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But, did Beach Boys influence the Beatles?
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But, did Beach Boys influence the Beatles?


http://www.beatlesbible.com...luence-on-eachother/
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Chuck Berry was a huge jump too.

But most influential depends on fame level too I would think.
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Originally posted by 2.5:

Chuck Berry was a huge jump too.

But most influential depends on fame level too I would think.


Not so,
many bands members were fans of odd ball acts that were never really mainstream or huge..
sure when asked they list off a few and many time will hit on the ones most know.. but if you were a music lover that hit the record stores and bought the smaller off label,imports /etc you can hear the influence , Ever hear the list the drummer of metalica "lars" rattles off.. it's a who's who of odd ball bands..
same with many..
as a kid I wasn't into the cool crap to do, like smoke,drink,etc my drug of choice was music and I have 15000 albums, nevermind c/d's because of it...lol
Tower record and stairway to heaven in boston,ma. loved me..
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Originally posted by 84fiero123:

Alice,

https://youtu.be/2Oo8QzDHimQ

I give up posting you tube videos, I try but never get them to work.

Did get to meet him in person once, we had something's in common, we both owned corvettes and were Nuts ! Back stage passes and got to talk to him and sign something for us, interesting guy to say the least, not what you would think. Did you know he plays Santa class every charismas in the town he lives in? Actually a nice guy.

Steve


Alice has a bunch of degree's.. the guy is very smart.. most in the rock world are, but if that got out,, the world is a stage "act" of sex,drugs,RnR.. wouldn't be and like Gene Simmons said,, as soon as rock stars stopped acting like rock stars is when it started to die, and he has a point,, look at the rappers,, they ask like rock starts,, 15 cars, houses bling.. and then you have the grunge rock that the band shows up looking like they just installed a bathroom in a house..
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Not even being a fan of any music, I would say the most influential must be Rolling Stones. They are still affecting things with the 3rd generation of people listening to them. They just did a sold out concert at OSU Stadium a few weeks ago...even in pouring rain.
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For me it would be a tie between The Who, Led Zeppelin & The Rolling Stones.

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Beatles hands down.

There are many others that have had great influence but like em or not, it's the Beatles.
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The Beatles were a great influence, especially when I was in high school. I think it was relatively short lived though. After 10 years they faded away. Ill even bet there are teens now that dont even know who they were or what they looked like.
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I'd pick Buddy Holly as the main influence of modern pop rock. Bands like the Beatles and the Rolling Stones cite Buddy Holly as a major influence.

As for hard rock / heavy metal, it's a tough choice between Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath. They were both pioneers of heavy metal music. And they're both highly influential.
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Originally posted by Blacktree:

I'd pick Buddy Holly as the main influence of modern pop rock. Bands like the Beatles and the Rolling Stones cite Buddy Holly as a major influence.

As for hard rock / heavy metal, it's a tough choice between Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath. They were both pioneers of heavy metal music. And they're both highly influential.


Buddy Holly is an excellent choice.
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I haven't seen anyone mention Pink Floyd yet, to my surprise. As a group they predate Led Zeppelin, but what about their influence? It was a close choice for me.

How about other sub genres of Rock? The Ramones to Punk, Beach Boys to surf, Kiss Pioneered the live show ect.

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Originally posted by rogergarrison:
The Beatles were a great influence, especially when I was in high school. I think it was relatively short lived though. After 10 years they faded away. Ill even bet there are teens now that dont even know who they were or what they looked like.


On that very subject, my oldest daughter, 35 at the time was saying how this new band just did this new record and its so good. It was an old Beatles tune they did a release of. I told her that and she didn't believe me. I had to look it up online to prove it to her.

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Two words, Black Sabbath...

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Originally posted by Red88FF:

Beatles hands down.

There are many others that have had great influence but like em or not, it's the Beatles.


Absolutely, no doubt about it.

There are a lot of other bands mentioned in this thread that were great in their own right, but none had the influence that the Beatles did. Not only with music, but within general pop culture as well.

I suspect those who dismiss the Beatles weren't even around during the "British Invasion".

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You would be wrong in my case. I was in high school. I know all about the Dave Clark 5, Hermans Hermits and all the others. Although the Beatles were the best of that era, like I said, they soon fell into obscurity. They broke up and each became famous in their own right though. They really didnt influence anything I did. I guess they inspired guys to wearing longer hair.
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Although the Beatles were only together a 'short' time, their solo work continued and evolved. Look at the work of Lennon and McCartney after the breakup. Harrison and Starr also followed their own musical paths, and even though they didn't do as much as L&Mc, it was ALL good.

One of my favorite Beatles tunes is 'Hey Bulldog'. Rock & Roll at its finest.....
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Originally posted by Patrick:

Absolutely, no doubt about it.

There are a lot of other bands mentioned in this thread that were great in their own right, but none had the influence that the Beatles did. Not only with music, but within general pop culture as well.

I suspect those who dismiss the Beatles weren't even around during the "British Invasion".



Fact,(even the members have sad it) The beatles were a management/label built band, everything was pre thought out..
as far as the British Invasion, there are many bands that are much much better players and song writers..
The Who and the Kinks come to mind right off the bat..
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Originally posted by E.Furgal:

Fact,(even the members have sad it) The beatles were a management/label built band, everything was pre thought out..


What, you're trying to tell us that the Beatles were an early boy band?

Supply a link which proves or demonstrates that "fact".

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What, you're trying to tell us that the Beatles were an early boy band?

Supply a link which proves or demonstrates that "fact".


LOL Maybe they were the first New Kids on the Block! Still hugely influential though. Tons of kids picked up guitars and formed bands in the 60s after hearing the Beatles.

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The vast influence of the Beatles on popular culture cannot be denied. When I was young, I didn't appreciate them because they weren't "hard edged" enough for me. It wasn't till much later that I came to understand their immense talent.
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What, you're trying to tell us that the Beatles were an early boy band?

Maybe he's thinking of The Monkees?

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Originally posted by williegoat:

Maybe he's thinking of The Monkees?


That would be funny... but no, I suspect he simply enjoys being contrary (to the point of becoming a distraction).

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What, you're trying to tell us that the Beatles were an early boy band?



I get the feeling too listening to them. I dont know what qualifies them officially for the status, but they seem like one to me.
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I get the feeling too listening to them. I dont know what qualifies them officially for the status, but they seem like one to me.


What's your definition of a "boy band"?
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