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Catalytic Converter by stefanosg
Started on: 12-18-2013 08:41 AM
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Report this Post12-18-2013 08:41 AM Click Here to See the Profile for stefanosgClick Here to visit stefanosg's HomePageSend a Private Message to stefanosgEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
My cat is rusted pretty good and probably needs replacing. the local shop quoted me $350! I saw Rodney Dickman had some nice DIY cats for a fraction of all that, but he is not stocking them anymore. Any suggestions?
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Report this Post12-18-2013 08:51 AM Click Here to See the Profile for GrantmanSend a Private Message to GrantmanEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Fierostore stocking them?
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Report this Post12-18-2013 09:42 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Old LarSend a Private Message to Old LarEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I got a Magnaflow universal cat for half that price.
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Report this Post12-18-2013 09:57 AM Click Here to See the Profile for stefanosgClick Here to visit stefanosg's HomePageSend a Private Message to stefanosgEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
That Magnaflow, was it a clamp on that I can do myself. If not, who did the work? Any idea the part number or the dimensions I should look for? thanks
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Report this Post12-18-2013 10:27 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Arns85GTSend a Private Message to Arns85GTEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
If you get a generic, make sure of your pipe size. You can use stainless band clamps to join it. They work great. There is normally a little leakage though, and I use muffler tape on the seams as a backup seal.

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What about welding them in place?
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Report this Post12-18-2013 11:09 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Arns85GTSend a Private Message to Arns85GTEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
That is the best way. Welding under a car is a pita though. To get everything lined up you may want to tack it, then remove it for a finished weld.

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Report this Post12-18-2013 11:25 AM Click Here to See the Profile for newfiejeffSend a Private Message to newfiejeffEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
So without a catalytic converter the car will smell a little fumey(lack of a better word)?
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Report this Post12-18-2013 11:46 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin87FieroGTSend a Private Message to Kevin87FieroGTEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
You might also check Summit Racing as they have cats of various pipe sizes. I believe for our cars MagnaFlow was the brand of choice, in the 2" inlet / 2" outlet size. The last time I looked, a basic cat for the 2.8L V-6 was about $70 and was of the type that can be either welded or clamped on.
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Report this Post12-18-2013 11:48 AM Click Here to See the Profile for stefanosgClick Here to visit stefanosg's HomePageSend a Private Message to stefanosgEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I don't weld, that's why I am looking for the clamp on solution.
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Report this Post12-18-2013 12:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin87FieroGTSend a Private Message to Kevin87FieroGTEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
http://www.summitracing.com.../mpe-53004/overview/

Be sure to check diameter of your pipe. I believe the 2" cat above should work. It is a clamp on / weld on model.

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Guys..wonder, whats the point in replacing a Cat ???... Most guys I know just leave it off with no performance problems. Whats your opinion???
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Report this Post12-18-2013 08:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BrittBSend a Private Message to BrittBEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
One of the TV shows I watch is on Velocity called Wheeler Dealers and when they do a repair they always use a exhaust paste/sealent on all their joints. Is there anything like that in the states, seems like it could help keep the fumes down a bit!
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Originally posted by fiero2man:

Guys..wonder, whats the point in replacing a Cat ???... Most guys I know just leave it off with no performance problems. Whats your opinion???


Depends where you live. Removing a cat will give you better performance, but if you are required to do emission tests in your state/province, then you need one installed that is in good shape and sized properly.
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Report this Post12-19-2013 04:44 AM Click Here to See the Profile for stefanosgClick Here to visit stefanosg's HomePageSend a Private Message to stefanosgEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Not a problem here in Florida. If I were to do that, won`t I throw a code?
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Report this Post12-20-2013 01:11 AM Click Here to See the Profile for uhlanstanSend a Private Message to uhlanstanEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
the removal of the cat will not cause a code
when ever you remove the cat or muffler ,make the cut as close to the body as possible
a new hack saw blade goes thru the exhaust pipe metal fast
file or grind down welds
always have inlet pipe male into cat female,, outlet male into female
fiero store cats are reasonable,if you can not find a performance cat at a resonable price..
Fiero store cats are $120

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Report this Post12-20-2013 04:46 AM Click Here to See the Profile for stefanosgClick Here to visit stefanosg's HomePageSend a Private Message to stefanosgEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Sounds good, thank you.
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Guys..wonder, whats the point in replacing a Cat ???... Most guys I know just leave it off with no performance problems. Whats your opinion???


Leave it on. Most people wouldn't know a difference in performance anyway. Having it there or not isn't a large enough difference in performance. However, it does have an effect on the O2 sensor reading and efficiency of the engine, if you remove it, however small it may be. And the lack of a converter without some other important changes, will result in worse emissions, less low end torque, and smell horrible.

There's no good reason to just remove it. There are plenty of good reasons to keep it. And a brand new cat made in the last 12 months will perform a whole lot better than a 30 year old cat that came on the Fiero.
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Report this Post12-20-2013 09:50 AM Click Here to See the Profile for stefanosgClick Here to visit stefanosg's HomePageSend a Private Message to stefanosgEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I had the car looked at today. Last night it left me a little puddle. It was leaking some transmission fluid. Fortunately it was from the oil coolant lines and was fixed at minimal expense. While the guy had it up in the air he took off the rusted outer skin. The inside while rusty, was fine. They ran a smoker through it and found it to be free of blockages and leaks.
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I see you live close to a large body of salt water......so you get surface rust. Pretty amazing that your CAT is still good if it is original.
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Report this Post12-21-2013 09:37 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 82-T/A [At Work]Send a Private Message to 82-T/A [At Work]Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
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My cat is rusted pretty good and probably needs replacing. the local shop quoted me $350! I saw Rodney Dickman had some nice DIY cats for a fraction of all that, but he is not stocking them anymore. Any suggestions?



Get this from the Fiero Store first (http://www.fierostore.com/Product/Detail.aspx?s=54401) for $40 bucks (there's a stainless one for another $20 bucks)

Then buy the Magnaflow catalytic converter. I suggest something that can flow a bit more CFM than the stock sized one. The Ocelot one that the Fiero Store is appropriately sized. It's a little bit bigger than what is considered stock. You'll get improved flow, but keep enough necessary back-pressure that our little motors need for that off-the-line snap.
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