picked up an 85 with 90k, zero rust and runs GREAT!!! i love it!!! last time i owned a fiero i was 22 and i don't remember them being that peppy lol i dropped the clutch and roasted it all the way through 1st and got a nice squawk in 2nd lol that was fun lol and wow they handle great anyway ...
so couple quick questions.. -it is the coup, can i put the fast back panels on it?
-this is just going to be my work travel vehicle but I'm going to put it on the rotisserie when the snow flies and redo the suspension, paint, etc. i was thinking i might as well throw a rebuild on the motor cuz ..... why not lol i want to keep the 2.8 i don't want the 3.8 but the 3.1 stroker sounds like it would be a nice upgrade.. can some one tell me which 3.1 i should harvest the parts from?
-does anyone have any opinions on archies interior kit? i have a friend doing a fiero in my barn (very built 3.8sc) which prompted me to get one again and we were looking at interior upgrades and both thought archies looked great but would love to hear some opinions on them.
... but the 3.1 stroker sounds like it would be a nice upgrade.. can some one tell me which 3.1 i should harvest the parts from?
All you need is the 3.1 crank and pistons to match - 1990 Cavalier I think. Engine WILL need balancing. 2.8 was externally balanced (weight on flywheel), 3.1 is internally balanced.
If you want some more bang for your buck over a 3.1, I don't know if you've looked into the 3.4 swap, but Its pretty much all bolt in except for the starter. You can dress it as the Fiero motor also and I think you get 190hp vs 140... Don't quote me on that, maybe a 3.4 guy could give you good info.
thanks for the tip. i did read a few post on the 3.4. seemed like there was a few issues such as tuning, timing cover, starter etc. if I'm wrong please someone correct me cuz i wouldn't mind that if its as easy as the 3.1.
any idea which year/car to get a 3.4 from? I'll look into it a little more.
thanks again, love the input.... I'm like a kid in a candy store right now lol
Thanks, I'm browsing craigslist for 3.1's and 3.4's to see what kind of deals i can find.
with my buddy doing the 3.8 swap in my barn next to my car ...it is tempting to just get one but i just don't feel like messing with a wiring harness and fab work, otherwise i might be more inclined to jump on the 3.8 wagon. my desire for upping the performance is to keep the engine portion of this as quick and simple as possible. i don't want to have the car down for to long and seems like dropping the 2.8 and swapping out the crank..... pretty quick.
I've been through rebuilding and modding the 2.8 and it was ok. I carb'd mine, old school style. And I got about 160 hp out of it.
If you are going rotisserie, I would suggest you look for a 92-94 Sedan De Ville donor car and plug in the 4.9.
Not much heavier and an instant kick in the pants. You'll have to mod the engine mounts and exhaust though.
The cost is about the same as a stroker upgrade but way more torque. Just a thought, but good luck with it either way
Arn
4.9... i just don't want to play with electrical. is there a build you could point me to that would show what all is needed for that swap. if its as much work as the 3800 then I'd just go that route, I've had my share of really fast cars 800hp camaros and 500hp supras etc.. when i drove this the other day, i thought "well this is just fun" lol i do want a little more out of it but not if its going to be a headache of work. I'm 36 which isn't old or young but I'm honestly kinda burned out of building monsters lol
thanks for the info on the fast back.. been looking for them wow are they really worth $500? thats about the cheapest i'm finding them so far.
If you think about it, the rear clip is what makes a fastback a fastback. Without it, it is just like the other 80% of fieros. That's one of the reasons fastback clips aren't cheap. And they are a bit of work to make a complete fastback swap. 500 isn't bad.
If you think about it, the rear clip is what makes a fastback a fastback. Without it, it is just like the other 80% of fieros. That's one of the reasons fastback clips aren't cheap. And they are a bit of work to make a complete fastback swap. 500 isn't bad.
probably right, i just was a little surprised they were that much.
probably right, i just was a little surprised they were that much.
Everything costs money. Don't forget the time and "small bits and pieces" to do the conversion as well. AND new paint!!
There's been a few guys who thought it would be cheaper to make a 4-cylinder automatic Coupe into the V6 5-speed GT that they wanted buy (but cost $1500 more) in the first place. Not!
Even if you got everything "free" - conversion is a hassle. (did an auto to manual in my Indy)
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I'll probably just stick with the non fast back lol i dont mind the look, just thought the fast backs looked a little sharper. Although i have been looking into the 355 or 430 ferrari kits .... we'll see.
picked up an 85 with 90k, zero rust and runs GREAT!!! i love it!!! last time i owned a fiero i was 22 and i don't remember them being that peppy lol i dropped the clutch and roasted it all the way through 1st and got a nice squawk in 2nd lol that was fun lol and wow they handle great anyway ...
Brian
With such a great runner, maybe you should drive this one and swap another one. Maybe a blown up engine car? They you wont go thru withdrawals while its being worked on, and wont rush.
With such a great runner, maybe you should drive this one and swap another one. Maybe a blown up engine car? They you wont go thru withdrawals while its being worked on, and wont rush.
very good point. i acually just mentioned to my wife that i would'nt mind driving it for a bit but i have a four day weekend coming up and i could probably get it all stripped. i'm not doing to much to it so i think i will be able to get it back up and on the road by spring.
If you want some more bang for your buck over a 3.1, I don't know if you've looked into the 3.4 swap, but Its pretty much all bolt in except for the starter. You can dress it as the Fiero motor also and I think you get 190hp vs 140... Don't quote me on that, maybe a 3.4 guy could give you good info.
-Mitch
The 3.4 puts out 160 bhp and 180 ft-lbs as opposed to 135/165, a worthwhile increase. Just going top the 3.1 adds useful mid range torque too.
The 3.4 puts out 160 bhp and 180 ft-lbs as opposed to 135/165, a worthwhile increase. Just going top the 3.1 adds useful mid range torque too.
ya I've been looking for a block locally. i was also thinking about making my own intake similar to trueo (i think that's how they spell it)
3.4, worked heads, cam and custom intake. shouldn't be that lengthy of a project..... i don't know yet I'm still in the research phase.
i know the 3.8 is the best bang for the buck but i just don't want to do that swap. I'm not looking for something super fast i just want to have a little fun. I've had enough fast cars.. these fieros are just fun to drive lol
anyway ... 
