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Canadian Jeep Plant at Risk in Stellantis’ $13 Billion US Plan by blackrams
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Bogus accusations which have no merit are a dangerous game to play. Shall we discuss your fondness for little boys?


This is a dick move. Patty you wonder why your ratings bar is red.
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Patty you wonder why your ratings bar is red.


I don't "wonder" about it at all. It stands to reason that being one of the very few non-MAGA supporters here in P&R will lead to negative ratings from the usual suspects. I don't lose any sleep over it.


 
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This is a dick move.


Considering what led up to it, you absolutely deserved it.


I've said it before, and I'll say it again... I respond in the manner that I've been addressed.

Be civil to me, and I'll be civil to you.

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Feel free to let us know that you made a dick move, admit to it, and quit lying about it.


Well, it wasn't a lie but, if it makes you feel better, I can start referring to you as Patricia, Would rather not do that, some day the real Patricia and I might become friends and if she found out I used such a description (as her close neighbors describe her), she could become upset. I'd rather stay on her good side.
BTW, did you check out that reflection? The View might have an opening anytime.............

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Bogus accusations which have no merit are a dangerous game to play. Shall we discuss your fondness for little boys?


This is a dick move. Patty you wonder why your ratings bar is red.
What you said was not about me. Still non the less in very bad taste.
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What you said was not about me.


Why's it your concern then?

 
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Still non the less in very bad taste.


I was just following up, in the same fashion, what was initially said to me. Have you chastised the other party involved?
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Well, it wasn't a lie...


Yeah right. In a post joking about wishing to be argumentative (which you've repeatedly posted you have an issue with me about), you supposedly bring up a woman by name that no one here has ever heard about before. This makes no sense whatsoever. You're as unconvincing a liar as Trump.

 
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Hey! DID I suggest you should agree with me? Back Up The Bus Bud.
Just attempting to throw a little Patricia into the discussion.

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Mocking me behind my back is a dick move, and you know it. Just man up and admit the truth.
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Yeah right. In a post joking about wishing to be argumentative (which you've repeatedly posted you have an issue with me about), you supposedly bring up a woman by name that no one here has ever heard about before. This makes no sense whatsoever. You're as unconvincing a liar as Trump.

Mocking me behind my back is a dick move, and you know it. Just man up and admit the truth.


Gosh, Patrick, I've got a whole lot of neighbors and friends I've never mentioned on Pennock's before. Sorry, I won't be posting a list of them for you. That is the truth. Just because one of them has a name similar to yours who also has a very bad attitude, is hateful, is WOKE and thinks everyone else owes her and gets very upset when folks disagree with her (I'm told) and that you seem to be interested. I don't know if she's married or not, would you like me to find out.

Edited: Or, you have previously mentioned you have family and friends in the US (if my memory is correct), could this possibly be a relative, a sister maybe? If you come down for a visit, be sure to stop by and say hello.

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Just man up and admit the truth.


And... you just can't bear to do it.

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And... you just can't bear to do it.


OK, there's Bill and Pat, James lives close, Bill's brother Ron a short distance down the road, there's Tim up on the corner, and of course, Patricia. Want more names?

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Want more names?


No, I wanted more truth... but obviously it's not coming from you. Sorry, but your cockamamie story just doesn't wash.

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No, I wanted more truth... but obviously it's not coming from you. Sorry, but your cockamamie story just doesn't wash.



This is random, but every time I hear the word Cockamamie... I think of Ayatollah Cockamamie... which I believed came from a computer game from when I was a little kid, called "Nuclear War."




It's hard to see... but now I realize it says (upper-left) "Kookamamie," which is totally not cockamamie... but I still think Ayatollah Cockamamie is better.
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No, I wanted more truth... but obviously it's not coming from you. Sorry, but your cockamamie story just doesn't wash.


Sorry Patrick, you don't get to skew the truth regardless of how you feel. If I hurt your feeling, I apologize.

May I call you Patty from now on to avoid any confusion with my almost neighbor or would you prefer Patrick? BTW, Patricia kind of resembles that toad....... Not what I'd call attractive but..............

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This is random, but every time I hear the word Cockamamie... I think of Ayatollah Cockamamie...


We used to call him "Assahollah Cockamamie".
...and not the one in the video game.
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Sorry Patrick, you don't get to skew the truth regardless of how you feel.


I don't need to skew anything. I'm done with this now, but the facts are all laid out in plain view.


 
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May I call you Patty from now on to avoid any confusion with my almost neighbor or would you prefer Patrick?


Several months ago, you requested that I not use your actual name when addressing you. I've respected your wishes. I, on the other hand, would prefer you use my actual name. I'd appreciate it then if you could reciprocate the respect.
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We used to call him "Assahollah Cockamamie".
...and not the one in the video game.



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"Bogus accusations which have no merit are a dangerous game to play. Shall we discuss your fondness for little boys?"
Cliff might have a problem with this quote as it might a negative impact on his forum google ratings.
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Several months ago, you requested that I not use your actual name when addressing you. I've respected your wishes. I, on the other hand, would prefer you use my actual name. I'd appreciate it then if you could reciprocate the respect.


Will use your posted name. Respect is earned, not given.
But, we'll see how this works out.

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Cliff might have a problem with this quote as it might a negative impact on his forum google ratings.


Is that why you've posted it three more times now? You're hoping it'll have a "negative impact on his forum google ratings"?

If you're all that concerned about it, alert Cliff Pennock. And make sure to send him the link to the bogus accusation that initiated the exchange of bogus accusations.
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Trump says he's ending trade talks with Canada over TV ads

https://www.msn.com/en-us/n...3671ae306d8318&ei=49

 
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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump said late Thursday that he was ending “all trade negotiations” with Canada because of a television ad opposing U.S. tariffs that he said misstated the facts and called “egregious behavior” aimed at influencing U.S. court decisions.

The post on Trump's social media site came after Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney said he aims to double his country’s exports to countries outside the U.S. because of the threat posed by Trump’s tariffs. Trump's call for an abrupt end to negotiations could further inflame trade tensions that already have been building between the two neighboring countries for months.


There's more in the article if you follow the link.

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And here's the ad that's gotten Trump steamed...

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And here's the ad that's gotten Trump steamed...




His speech is being taken out of context, which is why Trump is upset.

Reagan is stating here that having tariffs (for your own protection) is pointless. But Canada ALREADY has unfair trade practices against the United States, so it doesn't apply here. This speech would literally be associated to Canada, not the United States in this instance. Trump wants completely free trade, across the board. And Canada has routinely found loopholes in every trade negotiation that's screwed the United States.

I still get frustrated by the fact that they imposed a tax on anything not made in Canada, which resulted in more than 3/4ths of auto production moving just across the border to Canada. I'm not Canadian, and I haven't been there in a couple of years, but is that still going on?
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To be certain, the smuggling of the synthetic opioid fentanyl — which Trump has singled out as being a chief concern — has historically been an issue of significantly higher magnitude at the Mexican border.

Approximately 20 kilograms of fentanyl were seized at the Canada-U.S. border from October 2023 to September 2024, compared to more than 9,500 kilograms at the Mexico-U.S. border, according to U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) data.



That is 20 more than we want. Interesting that when we choked the Mexican supply, the Canadian smuggling increased.
What does the Canadian government do to stifle fentanyl imports ?

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You are comparing apples to bananas.
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His speech is being taken out of context, which is why Trump is upset.

Reagan is stating here that having tariffs (for your own protection) is pointless. But Canada ALREADY has unfair trade practices against the United States, so it doesn't apply here. This speech would literally be associated to Canada, not the United States in this instance. Trump wants completely free trade, across the board. And Canada has routinely found loopholes in every trade negotiation that's screwed the United States.

I still get frustrated by the fact that they imposed a tax on anything not made in Canada, which resulted in more than 3/4ths of auto production moving just across the border to Canada. I'm not Canadian, and I haven't been there in a couple of years, but is that still going on?


Read an article this morning that the Reagan Foundation is suing over the misrepresentation and editing of that video.

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What car is manufactured in Canada ?

None.

Why ?


 
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Good question... "why"? Why are you incapable of doing the simplest Google search?


Well now, they manufacture American cars.

What Canadian cars do they manufacture ?

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Trump wants completely free trade, across the board.


I'm sorry, but that's crazy talk. Trump's stated over and over and over again that he loves tariffs. If Trump wanted free trade "across the board", why has he levied tariffs on basically every country in the world except for Belarus, Russia and North Korea?
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Read an article this morning that the Reagan Foundation is suing over the misrepresentation and editing of that video.


And I've read that this is mostly false. A one minute ad was being produced, so of course there was editing of the original five minute speech. Good luck to whomever wishes to sue over this. It'll go nowhere.
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Insight from a Canadian's perspective.

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You are comparing apples to bananas.


Yes to apples to bananas !!
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And I've read that this is mostly false. A one minute ad was being produced, so of course there was editing of the original five minute speech. Good luck to whomever wishes to sue over this. It'll go nowhere.


Well, the truth always comes out eventually. I have no proof the Reagan Foundation is doing anything. Although, I do agree with Todd on how the context was off base.

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His (Reagan's) speech is being taken out of context, which is why Trump is upset.


 
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I do agree with Todd on how the context was off base.


Trump is upset because he can't tolerate anyone pushing back.

From the site I earlier linked to...

 
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...the ad’s overall message doesn’t misrepresent Reagan’s views on tariffs. Reagan said he believed that in the long-term, tariffs would lead to trade wars and hurt Americans.



So we can agree to disagree that "the context was off base".

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Yes to apples to bananas !!



That is a fake image. Here is the original image.

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Yes to apples to bananas !!


 
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That is a fake image. Here is the original image.



Amazing how some will do stuff like this all the while trying to show something that simply is a fabrication.

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Here is the original image.

CLICK FOR FULL SIZE


Knowing Donald Trump's history, that photo is creepier than the fake one!

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Amazing how some will do stuff like this all the while trying to show something that simply is a fabrication.

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It is a poorly done fake too. You can clearly see Ivanka's hair in the fake image. People who want it to be a real image are not going to see that.
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People who want Trump to be a real President are not going to see that.
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Read an article this morning that the Reagan Foundation is suing over the misrepresentation and editing of that video.

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Good, I hope so!


 
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I'm sorry, but that's crazy talk. Trump's stated over and over and over again that he loves tariffs. If Trump wanted free trade "across the board", why has he levied tariffs on basically every country in the world except for Belarus, Russia and North Korea?


Well, we have no trade agreements with them... we actually have sanctions on them. You're misrepresenting Trump's use of tariffs. He's doing reciprocal tariffs. You know this.
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

You're misrepresenting Trump's use of tariffs. He's doing reciprocal tariffs. You know this.


Todd, please... Suggesting that Trump is only reciprocating tariffs on every country on the planet (minus Belarus, Russia, North Korea) is utter nonsense. You should know this.

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Donald Trump originally tweeted out that the Ontario, Canada ad with President Reagan was "FAKE". It isn't, but here's a video starring Reagan which is AI... and it's hilarious!

NSFW... You've been warned!

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