...Lana Payne, national president of Unifor, which represents workers at the plant, said the carmaker could not be allowed to renege on commitments to Canadian workers.
“Governments cannot stand by while our jobs are shifted to the United States,” Payne said in a statement. “Saving Brampton Assembly must now be this country’s top priority, sending a strong message to any corporation thinking they can take the same egregious actions.”
So, what are they going to do? Send a strongly worded message?
But the so-called "insider scoop" says that the area is going to be sold and re-purposed, if I heard correctly.
I certainly can't complain that Stellantis is going to employ people here, although American automakers have employed Canadian factories/workers for decades. I personally didn't have a problem with cars being built there, but it is, as they say, what it is.
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...Lana Payne, national president of Unifor, which represents workers at the plant, said the carmaker could not be allowed to renege on commitments to Canadian workers.
“Governments cannot stand by while our jobs are shifted to the United States,” Payne said in a statement. “Saving Brampton Assembly must now be this country’s top priority, sending a strong message to any corporation thinking they can take the same egregious actions.”
So, what are they going to do? Send a strongly worded message?
But the so-called "insider scoop" says that the area is going to be sold and re-purposed, if I heard correctly.
I certainly can't complain that Stellantis is going to employ people here, although American automakers have employed Canadian factories/workers for decades. I personally didn't have a problem with cars being built there, but it is, as they say, what it is.
Would F.A.F. O. be applicable to this? All that was asked for was a level playing field (reference tariffs). This could have, should have never come about but.................
Would F.A.F. O. be applicable to this? All that was asked for was a level playing field (reference tariffs). This could have, should have never come about but.................
Rams
I thought that the amount of fentanyl coming across the border into the US was also an issue. I've even read things that would seem to corroborate that. (It was on the internet. It's gotta be true... right?)
I thought that the amount of fentanyl coming across the border into the US was also an issue. I've even read things that would seem to corroborate that. (It was on the internet. It's gotta be true... right?)
Won't suggest you're wrong but, this decision by the company says it's due to tariffs. I have no doubt the transportation of drugs across our northern border was also a big issue. But the continuation and increase of tariffs seems to now be more about fair trade. Just goes to prove, buying friends only lasts as long as the money rolls in.
If Chrysler decides to shut the plant down, I am sure they would be more than happy to sell it to the union, Canadian government or anyone that comes along with enough money. Tesla bought the NUMMI plant in Fremont when GM and Toyota shut it down. This could be an opportunity.
This plant is formally moving to Illinois. Which I think is a good decision.
I had a Jeep Patriot (2008), which is the same thing as the Compass. Same chassis, same engine / transmission / suspension / brakes / everything, just different panels and rear hatch.
It was... OK. Build quality wasn't the greatest, but it was an inexpensive car, so I chalk it up to that.
Either way, I'd much rather see these vehicles being built in the US than in Canada. You'll recall that almost everything was built in the United States, and then the companies started moving things to Canada because of the indirect tax that Canada imposed on anything that was made outside of Canada. It resulted in a mass exodus of car and parts manufacturers moving to within 100 miles of the border. It was essentially a tariff that, at least in my opinion, grossly violated NAFTA... but they were essentially using a loophole.
So, there are no tears. Canada can always create their own car company and make cars.
I thought that the amount of fentanyl coming across the border into the US was also an issue.
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I have no doubt the transportation of drugs across our northern border was also a big issue.
You guys still rehashing that total BS? This has long ago been discredited.
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To be certain, the smuggling of the synthetic opioid fentanyl — which Trump has singled out as being a chief concern — has historically been an issue of significantly higher magnitude at the Mexican border.
Approximately 20 kilograms of fentanyl were seized at the Canada-U.S. border from October 2023 to September 2024, compared to more than 9,500 kilograms at the Mexico-U.S. border, according to U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) data.
If I were in your position, that would likely be my story, too.
As opposed to what... being in your position of believing MAGA commissioned BS? The site I linked to a US government site. Just because you don't like the actual data, you shrug it off? Fine, stay in the dark. Trump loves the fact that his flock doesn't question him.
Regardless of the why the factory is moving out of Canada. I welcome it's coming to the US. Jobs coming back to the US is always a good thing. Most likely wouldn't have happened if a level playing field had been agree to. Would this be one of those FAFO situations?
Rams
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Most likely wouldn't have happened if a level playing field had been agree to.
LOL, you sound like a broken record. It made no sense the first time... it makes even less sense now after the hundredth repeat.
Trump doesn't want a "level playing field". He wants the rest of the world to be running uphill. Good for him if he pulls it off short term... but one way or another there'll be consequences. It's just a matter of time.
As opposed to what... being in your position of believing MAGA commissioned BS? The site I linked to a US government site. Just because you don't like the actual data, you shrug it off? Fine, stay in the dark. Trump loves the fact that his flock doesn't question him.
It's not that Trump has a great deal of cred with me. (For whatever reason, I'm happy to see the production moved here.)
Just that you - and the other leftoids - have less.
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Yes, that certainly explains your totally skewed view on the subject. Poor little USA of A... being taken advantage of by every other country on the planet for decades. LOL Geez man, give it up already. American negotiators have been just as shrewd as anyone else over the decades. They've gotten their pound of flesh. To be convinced otherwise is a joke.
Yes, that certainly explains your totally skewed view on the subject. Poor little USA of A... being taken advantage of by every other country on the planet for decades. LOL Geez man, give it up already. American negotiators have been just as shrewd as anyone else over the decades. They've gotten their pound of flesh. To be convinced otherwise is a joke.
As I said, one from the people paying and one from the people on the receiving end. That's what happens when you buy friendship. When the well runs dry, the "friends" are not nearly as friendly.
Rams
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Speaking from personal experience, are you? Maybe try using your charm next time. No, wait... that probably wouldn't work.
Most likely correct with me, what you see is what you get. BTW, thanks for fixing that "not". At least, you're not in denial about this. Admission is getting close to the 12 Steps.
Rams
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No, I'm not denying that it's a waste of my time responding to the same tiresome "points" you post over and over again. Please come up with something new, something engaging, something factual.
No, I'm not denying that it's a waste of my time responding to the same tiresome "points" you post over and over again. Please come up with something new, something engaging, something factual.
So, here something off topic to this thread, kind of.
While I can't say I'm sorry for repeating myself, unlike some, I try not to distract a thread with wild ass claims and insults that are truly not part of the conversation. Yes, from time to time I have gone off topic but the consistency of insults you throw around are by far more frequent than most other members combined. Fact.
You and some other Canadians being pissed at DJT because of the tariffs is interesting at least. Now Canada is being asked to pay it's own way, pulling it's share of the load and you and others don't like that. Fact.
Has Canada fulfilled its NATO commitment yet? Yeah, that old issue again...................
Why bring up other things when the old ones have never been addressed................ Only passed over or ignored, a failure to provide an answer, excuse or reason.
Rams
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As expected, no response on any of the questions asked. Ignoring these things won't make them go away. But, leaving out the insults would make things a whole lot easier to deal with.
Rams
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Oh really? Please... tell us, who were you referring to?
You thought that was you. That thar is funny, don't care who U R.
I figured you challenged me on that. Well, think what you will, she's old, angry, woke and anti-DJT. I heard she attended the Memphis No Kings event. Obviously, you didn't. Leaving it at that, she has not given me permission to out her but, it is kind of interesting that you relate to her.
Rams
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Well, think what you will, she's old, angry, woke and anti-DJT. I heard she attended the Memphis No Kings event. Obviously, you didn't. Leaving it at that, she has not given me permission to out her...
That thar's funny, don't care who you are!! The thing is, she does exist and from what I've been told, is disliked by her neighbors. She is someone I've only met a couple of times, I was not impressed even though, she didn't bring her wrath down on me. This is hilarious.
Rams
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It is hilarious, that you think anyone might believe a word you're now saying. See, this is what happens when you look up to a habitual liar like Trump... you begin to emulate him.
It is hilarious, that you think anyone might believe a word you're now saying. See, this is what happens when you look up to a habitual liar like Trump... you begin to emulate him.
I suggest you look in a mirror and consider the reflection.................... If you're reminded of the "View". Feel free to let us know.
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