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Kimmel pulled. So much for free speech in America. by Patrick
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Originally posted by Patrick:

Apparently! lol

We'll have to agree to disagree. I'm sure more will eventually come out in the wash.



Actually, I don't think it will come out in the wash. They used the improper conduct clause in his contract to cancel him. If they were to admit that it's because the show is declining in ratings, he could sue for wrongful termination and then get all of the money through May of 2026... which would be another 15 million dollars.
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

They used the improper conduct clause in his contract to cancel him. If they were to admit that it's because the show is declining in ratings, he could sue for wrongful termination and then get all of the money through May of 2026... which would be another 15 million dollars.


I wouldn't be at all surprised if Kimmel sues for "wrongful termination" if "improper conduct" was indeed used as the reason for cancelling the show. "Improper conduct" my azz. A helluva lot worse has been said by untold numbers of people on network TV, and no one bats an eye. This is far from over.
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' Leider ist dein Krieg kaputt ' ~ In the original German
' Your war is over ! '
A flatulent sound was heard when the body was disturbed with the toe of a boot.
' What's that smell, Jimmy ? '

:yak !:

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The Left’s cancel-culture “amnesia” is striking...

They created the rules a few years ago when deplatforming conservatives, and now they yell 'foul' when it’s being applied to them!

 
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Instead, leftists are pretending as if conservatives somehow originated cancel culture and government’s role in it. Why? Well, some people have very short memories (and often very convenient ones). Many, leftists in particular, also live in a self-created bubble of rationalization. When they scorned and ostracized people, “it was different — they deserved it.” This is much the same as Tyler Robinson believing Charlie Kirk deserved it.
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Hollywood Gossip !
Is Jimmy a closeted homosexual in the ' Land of Inversion ' ?
How could it not be true ?
If everything you know is a lie, you couldn't discern truth in plain sight.
' Trump is a Hitler ! So is Charlie Kirk ! '
Well, that isn't true, obvious to anyone with a rational mind.


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Originally posted by Patrick:

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Kimmel sues for "wrongful termination" if "improper conduct" was indeed used as the reason for cancelling the show. "Improper conduct" my azz. A helluva lot worse has been said by untold numbers of people on network TV, and no one bats an eye. This is far from over.



Ok, if you can believe me when I'm saying that... looking at this from purely a legal standpoint, I don't think Kimmel fights this. He still has a contract for another ABC television show, and they use him routinely for other shows and special events. So, suing ABC would likely upend that... and to a degree, they likely have already talked to him and expressed this to him.

From a legal perspective, I don't know how it is in Canada, but in the United States, tort law does not need to rise to the level or burden of proof for the plaintiff, in order to get restitution. Meaning that... if it was a criminal case, you'd have to prove motive and that a crime had been committed. In tort law, the burden is far lower, you just have to show that the preponderance of facts stacks up to support your claim. So, he would have that going for him as the plaintiff (with ABC being the tortfeasor / defendant).

What Jimmy would have to show is that they breached his contract because the show was losing money, rather than what he specifically said (which if I'm trying to be unbiased, is not new, left-leaning shows always say that exact same thing, every time). He could theoretically subpoena e-mails, chat messages, etc., but more than likely, if this was in fact the reason they cancelled him (losing money), they (the board / CEOs) would know better, and the companies likely would have talked over the phone. If they had records, that would be admissible evidence. He could also try to use "circumstantial" evidence, which is relevant, but does not entirely point to fault, merely helps build a narrative. Circumstantial evidence would be the discussions that they were not planning on renewing his contract after May 2026, Stephen Colbert was cancelled for low ratings, Conan O'Brien was cancelled for low ratings, etc. He could also use analyst data (from news sources) that have been saying the same thing that I said from the beginning.

All of that would be "breach of contract" ... I can assume, but since his contract isn't public, we can't know. There's a general "Conduct Clause," and this was what was cited as having been violated by Jimmy that led to ABC cancelling him. The problem with a conduct clause is that they are generally written in a vague manner. This is done intentionally so as to give companies a slight upper-hand. It would be an uphill battle, and he would likely lose the tort case... and on top of that, they would likely drop him from other shows as well (as I mentioned, he's still employed with one other full time show, and gets used regularly on ABC).


"Conduct Clause in Employment Contracts:"

A conduct clause in employment contracts is a provision that requires an employee to adhere to certain ethical standards during the duration of the contract. These clauses are designed to maintain the employer's reputation and protect it from public embarrassment. They can be seen as a type of contingent contract, where the outcome depends on the employee's behavior. If an employee's behavior violates the conduct clause, the employer has the right to terminate the contract. This type of clause is particularly common in industries where the reputation of the company is closely tied to the reputation of the employee, such as in entertainment, sports, and other public-facing roles.
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What really happened behind the scenes.



There was immediate public outrage. Advertisers started calling and complaining. Then affiliates Nexstar and Sinclair pulled Kimmel's show. Bob Iger told Kimmel to apologize. Kimmel refused. Bob Iger then pulled the show from ABC. Then Carr of the FCC made statements on the subject. Kimmel still refuses to apologize.
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Just in, an older man shot up an ABC10 affiliate office in California, in protest of Jimmy Kimmel being taken off the air: https://x.com/bennyjohnson/.../1969518413262303437


This is his X account: https://x.com/AlHSantana/st.../1947410242557604018
... every post of his is a leftist rant. It's sad, because he's 67... you'd think he'd be wise enough to control himself from getting radicalized... but clearly, he snapped.

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What really happened behind the scenes...




LOL... Ya, that's pretty convincing.
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
... every post of his is a leftist rant. It's sad, because he's 67... you'd think he'd be wise enough to control himself from getting radicalized... but clearly, he snapped.



Clearly you have never been to California.
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Jimmy on Rosanne Barr's tweet


"It ain't over 'til the fat lady sings." What a national treasure.



Gotta love the crotch scratch and spitting at the end of her "performance".


And if that wasn't bad enough, she's back with Doug's homeboy...



That's really.... special.
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Clearly you have never been to California.


San Francisco a bunch of times during the original tech boom when I worked for the agency. But I haven't been there since it became a total **** -hole with poop everywhere.
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"It ain't over 'til the fat lady sings." What a national treasure.
Gotta love the crotch scratch and spitting at the end of her "performance".



This was explained/settled like decades ago.
No disrespect was intended. It was an attempt to "mimic" the ball players. Misguided to be sure. But not meant, in any way, to be disrespectful.

Ever try to be funny, and it was completely misunderstood?

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...not meant, in any way, to be disrespectful.


Of course not.... and Rosanne Barr has remained the epitome of class to this very day! lol

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Of course not.... and Rosanne Barr has remained the epitome of class to this very day! lol



Right up there with Colbert (especially) and Kimmel, I would suppose.
I'm not going to watch the video, because, TBH, I couldn't care less.

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I'm not going to watch the video...


I wish I hadn't!

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If only Kimmel would apply his own standard to himself.

 
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If only Kimmel would apply his own standard to himself.
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Meh... They've already demonstrated that it's okay, as long as it's not them. And especially if it's someone they already don't like. Nothing new here.

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The Man Show was a satirical sketch comedy and variety show that aired on Comedy Central from 1999 to 2004. It was created and originally hosted by comedians Adam Carolla and Jimmy Kimmel, who satirized and celebrated stereotypical male culture.


 
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Format and features
Satire of masculinity: The show featured pre-recorded skits and live, in-studio segments that exaggerated and lampooned traditional male behaviors. As Kimmel and Carolla once declared, the show was "a dam to stop the river of estrogen that is drowning us in political correctness".
Live studio audience: A beer-drinking, live studio audience was an important part of the show's chaotic and freewheeling atmosphere.
The Juggy Dance Squad: A troupe of women, known as the "Juggy Dance Squad," would dance in revealing outfits at the beginning and end of each show.
"Girls on Trampolines": The show's most famous recurring segment featured women bouncing on a trampoline. It became a signature element of the program.
Recurring elements: Other regular segments included beer-chugging challenges and a German drinking toast, "Zicke, Zacke, Zicke, Zacke, Hoi, Hoi, Hoi!".


I had no problem with the show, love me some boobies. But when Kimmel started holding himself up as something else and calling out people for his own behavior in the past I lost all respect and stopped watching anything he was part of.
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This is far from over.


And just like that... Kimmel is back!

Jimmy Kimmel to Return to ABC on Tuesday After Show’s Controversial Suspension

 
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The Walt Disney company in a new statement says the move was made "to avoid further inflaming a tense situation at an emotional moment for our country."

September 22, 2025 12:36pm

Jimmy Kimmel is getting back on the air.

The ABC late-night host is returning to broadcast on Tuesday following a brief-but-monumental suspension that sparked a national debate over the Trump Administration’s pressure tactics and the modern limits and consequences of free speech.


Much more at the link


Looking forward to the MAGA spin from the usual suspects here. Should be good!
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Jimmy Kimmel's monologue tomorrow night should will be epic!

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10 people might watch it.
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10 people might watch it.


LOL... You wish!

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Jimmy Kimmel's monologue tonight should will be epic!



Last I read, it's tomorrow - Tuesday - night.
I suspect he'll keep it low key, unless he wants his "comeback" to be very short-lived.

I also suspect he'll have a bumper crop of morons lined up to be part of the "festivities" - studio audience, not guests. Who knows who the hell he'll have as guests.
But you couldn't pay me to be anywhere near the place.

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Last I read, it's tomorrow - Tuesday - night.


Yes, my bad. Correction made.

 
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I suspect he'll keep it low key, unless he wants his "comeback" to be very short-lived.


Hard to say. I don't think he'd agree to be "muzzled"... but we'll see!
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While I am disappointed in Disney's decision, maybe, just maybe Kimmel will figure out how to not piss off more than half a nation. I don't expect an apology, I'd be very surprised should that occur but, maybe I'll be surprised. I fully expect his ratings to skyrocket for a short time but how long will that last?

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No such thing as bad publicity, they have been doing the same thing for longer than most of us have been alive. LONG time.
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Ratings have been dropping. I wouldn't put it past them to have staged this all in an attempt to start all this drama.
That victim card must be getting pretty thin by now.


From two days ago.
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That victim card must be getting pretty thin by now.


The only one playing the "victim card" has been poor little Donny. He'll be having an aneurysm over Kimmel's return! lol

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The only one playing the "victim card" has been poor little Donny. He'll be having an aneurysm over Kimmel's return! lol


lol you have it bad don't you.
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Sinclair will preempt Jimmy Kimmel's show despite Disney ending its suspension

https://www.foxnews.com/med...nding-its-suspension
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Sinclair will preempt Jimmy Kimmel's show despite Disney ending its suspension

https://www.foxnews.com/med...nding-its-suspension


It's being reported that Sinclair will still be preempting the Kimmel show. I'm pretty sure the Kimmel show will have high ratings tonight, how long will it last. Disney has stated that they've held several "thoughtful" conversations with Kimmel. I'm sure there was some "advice" provided by Disney. We'll learn how effective that conversation was soon. Kimmel's fan base may increase for a short time but, how long will that last.

Edited: Nexstar has joined Sinclair in preempting Kimmel's return. This brings happiness to my heart to know some out there stand for decency. Lying comedians should not be allowed on the airwaves. I miss Johnny Carson and Jay Leno, great hosts and pure comedy.

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Sinclair will preempt Jimmy Kimmel's show despite Disney ending its suspension

https://www.foxnews.com/med...nding-its-suspension


Hopefully they will air episodes of 'The Man Show" in it's place. I wonder how the loud the left would yell in woke defiance?
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I know you've all been anxiously awaiting this. Enjoy!

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Report this Post09-24-2025 01:49 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Valkrie9Send a Private Message to Valkrie9Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Funnier ! Facelifts.. Hairplugs..



Yep ! Funny !

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Originally posted by Patrick:

Looking forward to the MAGA spin from the usual suspects here. Should be good!



I don't think people care anywhere near as much about this as you do. You made this original post, got all upset because you felt like freedom of speech was being curtailed... we said it had nothing to do with Trump or the Government, and more to do with the channel itself. There was a lot of back and forth on here... but at the end of the day, no one really cares except people on the left who feel as though they were slighted. I would be a little surprised if there's a single right-leaning person on this forum who cares at all what happens to the Jimmy Kimmel show.
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