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Kimmel pulled. So much for free speech in America. by Patrick
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Originally posted by Raydar:


He can't. It's just the talking points that he's memorized from the left wing hate sites.
Very little - if any - thought process went into it.

Same old same old.


ACTUAL RESEARCH
I LOOKED AT WHO HE IS REALLY
WHAT HE SAID WHAT HE WANTS
KILL GAYS A TOTAL CHURCH RULE LOTS OF EVIL IDEAS

https://forums.sailinganarc...rump-enemies.245648/


CK WAS JUST A SCHMUCKS WITH A TABLE FULL OF BS
BUT THE CULT NEEDS A MARTYR A NEW HORST
AND THEY WENT FULL ON THIS GUY
BUT HE IS/WAS FAR CLOSER TO REINHARD THE REICH ''PROTECTOR''OF BAVARIA

DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY CK WAS A DANGER TO THE REPUBLIC'S FREEDOM ?
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Originally posted by blackrams:

One should become familiar with the licensing requirements and rules concerning public broadcasting in the US, they were written long ago.


Maybe you should bring yourself up to date, at least up to February of this year.

President Trump Expands White House Oversight of the FCC

 
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New executive order increases president’s grip on independent agencies

By Randy J. Stine

Published: February 19, 2025


A sweeping executive order signed by President Donald Trump on Tuesday places the FCC — along with other independent government agencies — under the increased supervision of the White House. The FCC and other agencies were previously not under direct White House control.

Under the new order, all independent federal agencies and executive branches must submit draft regulations to be reviewed by the White House. The federal agencies will also have their performance standards and budget allotments reviewed by the White House.


More at the link



Trump-appointed FCC chairperson, Brendan Carr, is nothing but a puppet for Donald Trump.
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Originally posted by ray b:


ACTUAL RESEARCH
I LOOKED AT WHO HE IS REALLY
WHAT HE SAID WHAT HE WANTS
KILL GAYS A TOTAL CHURCH RULE LOTS OF EVIL IDEAS

https://forums.sailinganarc...rump-enemies.245648/


CK WAS JUST A SCHMUCKS WITH A TABLE FULL OF BS
BUT THE CULT NEEDS A MARTYR A NEW HORST
AND THEY WENT FULL ON THIS GUY
BUT HE IS/WAS FAR CLOSER TO REINHARD THE REICH ''PROTECTOR''OF BAVARIA

DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY CK WAS A DANGER TO THE REPUBLIC'S FREEDOM ?


Ray, please go to the site that forum post links. Then watch the video yourself. Don't trust other people's less than truthful characterizations of what Charlie Kirk said. Listen to it yourself. That is what real research is, going to the original source, not someone else's slanted view of it.


The video is edited. They start it with Charlie Kirk mentioning people who used the government against President Trump. Then there is a clear edit at 10 seconds. After the edit they are clearly talking about criminals who committed terrible crimes being executed. They list some of the criminal they are talking about, pedophiles, school shooters, and murderers to name a few.

Unless you are saying that the people who used the government again President Trump are pedophiles, school shooters and murderers, then it is obvious the subject of the conversation changed. It is a deceptive edit and used to support the lies written in the article on the page.

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Maybe you should bring yourself up to date, at least up to February of this year.

President Trump Expands White House Oversight of the FCC


There is no such thing as an independent agency. Being a Canadian, you would not know that no such thing exists in U.S. government. There are only three branches of government defined in the Constitution and independent agency is not one of them.
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There is no such thing as an independent agency. Being a Canadian, you would not know that no such thing exists in U.S. government.


Are you suggesting the author of that article is also Canadian?
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Are you suggesting the author of that article is also Canadian?


Only if the author is you. That is how English works.
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Only if the author is you. That is how English works.


I'd like to know how your brain works. Who or what are you having a problem with... the person who wrote that article (which you are implying is incorrect), or the person (namely me) who quoted it?
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I'd like to know how your brain works. Who or what are you having a problem with... the person who wrote that article (which you are implying is incorrect), or the person (namely me) who quoted it?


I clearly stated my position. If you don't understand it, then read it again. If you still don't understand it, then maybe you can ask one of your acquaintances to explain it to you.
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I clearly stated my position. If you don't understand it, then read it again. If you still don't understand it, then maybe you can ask one of your acquaintances to explain it to you.


Doug, I understand your "position" just fine. If the author of that article isn't Canadian (which according to you explains why I may or may not be aware that "there is no such thing as an independent agency" in the US government), then how could he have gotten his information so wrong?

Maybe I can ask Joe for some clarification........ or maybe not. lol

 
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Not my job to educate you.

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The right-wingers here like Tucker Carlson, correct? Okay you guys, please take a deep breath and watch the first one minute and fifteen seconds of the following video. Watching the whole video could/would certainly be enlightening... but I'm just asking you to watch the first one minute and fifteen seconds, because of what your friend, Tucker Carlson has to say.

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Trump cancelled Kimmel !
' It was our decision, we are the board of the company that pays Kimmel, we decided that Kimmel exposed us to litigation, extreme billion dollar liability, we simply cut our losses, it's just about the money. Kimmel went way off script, we were gonna get sued for buku billions. '

Yeah, that is the truth, isn't it ?
Kimmel on a raft in the mouth of the Mississippi heading out to the Gulf of America, bound for the Florida Strait, thence to the Atlantic's Gulf Stream, eight months to arrive in Ireland, greeting Rosie warmly. The North Atlantic in winter and spring, ' Those were big waves ! '

Miller rants on psychotherapy.:
Can I be fired too ?
A crooked lawyer, a fraud act in California, ' Gee Pogo, whooda thunk it ? '


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Freedom of Speech

 
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Bill O'Reilly / September 19, 2025:

People believe what they want to believe. The left in America fervently puts forth that their “freedom of speech” is threatened by President Trump. No amount of debate will ever dissuade them because liberals derive comfort from that point of view.

But what about the truth of the matter? Is that to be considered? Well, it will be in this essay.

First up, the leftist media have been trampling freedom of expression ever since Donald Trump began gathering political power. I know this because, as the bestselling nonfiction author in the world, I have to promote my books to alert folks they are in the marketplace.

Before the Trump era, that was not a problem; I had access to the networks. No longer, and it’s not only me.

Jimmy Kimmel would not book non-liberal guests, nor would Colbert. When Jimmy Fallon recently spoke with Greg Gutfeld, it made headlines because the situation was so rare. The morning network programs exclude almost all conservatives or traditional people. The View totally blackballs non liberals. As does Jane Pauley on the CBS Sunday Morning program.

Conservative commentator Mark Levin has written a series of bestsellers. Have you seen him on the networks? Fox News has some very successful commentators. Any sign of them on The Today Show? Good Morning America? 60 Minutes?

So, the most powerful media companies in the world have totally shut down “speech” that opposes liberalism.

And that’s fine with many on the left. Nothing to see or hear here. Business as usual. Liberal opinion is on display 24/7.

Conservative thoughts? Sorry, we’re closed.

This exclusion is a colossal violation of free speech. Dangerous to the nation. Putin stuff. However, you will not hear this truth spoken on the network talk programs, which are now loudly bemoaning Mr. Kimmel’s exit.

How about some honesty and fairness for a change, network people? Not holding my breath.


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Ray, please go to the site that forum post links. Then watch the video yourself. Don't trust other people's less than truthful characterizations of what Charlie Kirk said. Listen to it yourself. That is what real research is, going to the original source, not someone else's slanted view of it.


The video is edited. They start it with Charlie Kirk mentioning people who used the government against President Trump. Then there is a clear edit at 10 seconds. After the edit they are clearly talking about criminals who committed terrible crimes being executed. They list some of the criminal they are talking about, pedophiles, school shooters, and murderers to name a few.

Unless you are saying that the people who used the government again President Trump are pedophiles, school shooters and murderers, then it is obvious the subject of the conversation changed. It is a deceptive edit and used to support the lies written in the article on the page.

https://meidasnews.com/news...-political-opponents


NO YOUR TRUMP IS THE PEDOPHILE
J E HAS/HAD THE PROOF
AND THAT IS WHY ALL THE CHIT HIT THE FAN NOW
SMOKE AND MIRRORS
TRUMP IS THE PEDOPHILE
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The right-wingers here like Tucker Carlson, correct? Okay you guys, please take a deep breath and watch the first one minute and fifteen seconds of the following video. Watching the whole video could/would certainly be enlightening... but I'm just asking you to watch the first one minute and fifteen seconds, because of what your friend, Tucker Carlson has to say.




I watched the first 6 seconds, and he blamed the cancellation of Jimmy Kimmel on the "forced cancellation by the FCC."

This is a complete lie. No such thing occurred.


I said it before (everyone ignored it), but I'll say it again. Jimmy Kimmel's show was cancelled because the station used this political momentum as an excuse to end his contract. The Jimmy Kimmel show has been losing money almost every year. Ratings have declined significantly across the board on all late night network tv shows.

Regardless of the content... young people don't watch this kind of programming, at all. I don't even think (personally) what Kimmel said on his show was bad. He's just placating to his audience. But young people today, they stream stuff. Remember, the Stephen Colbert show was just cancelled several months ago, because of ratings. The Conan O'Brien show was also cancelled for the exact same reason (falling ratings) a year and a half ago.

Once again, his show was cancelled because it was losing money, and they used this as an excuse. Anyone who's thinking pragmatically about this can see that.


EDIT: Had to fix the color, red was making my eyes bleed.

EDIT2: Also... I don't watch Tucker Carlson. I know you weren't speaking to me, but generally. He's getting into too much weird stuff, and I stopped watching his show after like the 2nd or 3rd episode.

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Nothing stopping them from going and starting a network of their own. Feel free, then they can foot the bill instead of investors.
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Originally posted by Patrick:
Trump-appointed FCC chairperson, Brendan Carr, is nothing but a puppet for Donald Trump.


Feel free to show us what Mr. Carr has changed that applies to the Public Interest and how lying to the public is in the Public Interest.

Maybe someone should look into "Public Interest" of the FCC rules. Written long ago.
On Air Broadcasts do have rules to follow that are to be in the Public's Interest. Lying is not considered to be in the Public's Interest.

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NO YOUR TRUMP IS THE PEDOPHILE
J E HAS/HAD THE PROOF
AND THAT IS WHY ALL THE CHIT HIT THE FAN NOW
SMOKE AND MIRRORS
TRUMP IS THE PEDOPHILE


As I said, Leftie talking points.
And you wonder why people don't take you seriously?

Get help, Ray.
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Originally posted by Vintage-Nut:

Freedom of Speech



Every word that Bill wrote is true.
The networks are supposed to be in the public interest. The entire public. Not just the leftoids.
If the FCC decides to step in, the networks could be in a lot more trouble. I suppose that they will have to be "hit in the bank accounts" before they'll get it.

But "linear" (I think that's the term they use) and OTA TV are going the way of the dinosaur, anyway. But cable systems are a free-for-all.
I'm 65 miles from Atlanta, and still watch OTA, but lets see what happens...
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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

Nothing stopping them from going and starting a network of their own. Feel free, then they can foot the bill instead of investors.


Nothing except the FCC which regulates interstate and international communications by radio, television, wire, satellite, and cable in all 50 states, the District of Columbia and U.S. territories.

Don’t believe it? Look it up.
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Pretty sure Trump help start a social network that recently went public. Wonder why he had to do that?
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Rabid's defense of the indefensible ' Oh ! Joe ! How could you ? '
WTF is he talking about ?
He's describing his halcyon early molesting days in the Sun, teenies in onesy bathing suits, so hot, so young, so tight.
Molesting since his late teen years, flashing the kiddies, ' My junk just fell out '
Diddling the young girls at the pool.
Biden_Joe stuttering his mea culpa, a compulsive diddler since 1961, a lifelong pedophile.
Every lawyer around the world, ' You should not have said that Biden_Joe ! '
What more evidence do you require to determine that Biden_Joe is a child molester ?
Did Jill participate in Ashley's annual intrusion at twelve ?
' Bend over Ashley ! '

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Hillary lies some more, a ' Hot Sauce ' moment, throw away lies, casual lies, like.
If she was to begin hissing, flicking a serpent's tongue, I would then point out to all, ' A Medusa ! '
Dennis Miller's rant on Hillary Clinton


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This is why Rob Reiner needs to be beaned with a wooden mallet !
He's lying of course, he doesn't mean democracy, he means communist.
That's how communism works, repeating a lie until it becomes true, by repetition.
' It is so true ! '
' No, it's not ! '
' It is so true ! '
' It is so true ! '
See ? Like at the school playground, the girl in the pigtails sticking out her tongue, ' You are so too a poo poo ! '
They took a shot at Trump, and missed ! Now listen to them bawl, pathetic losers, all of them.
Taxing Reiner for 90% will make him cry for his money, ' It's Bernie's tax, Rob. '
$200M X 0.9 = $180M to the IRS
' It's my money ! '
' It's not fair ! I can't live on $20M ! '


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O'Bama be smiling, the msm taking wonderful photos, ' He's got charisma ! '
Sure, capital crimes, capital punishment, very simple.
Brennan, Clapper, Comey, three at top of the list.


Bill Maher & Dennis Miller on Free Speech
Upside Down !

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Originally posted by Patrick:

"Stupid remarks" is debatable... but yes, it was his choice. That's the way it's supposed to be in a free country. But now you've got a Trump-appointed FCC chairperson (Brendan Carr) who's doing the dirty work for little Donny, by terminating the ability of certain American entertainers from speaking their mind about the POTUS. Even if you don't like Colbert or Kimmel, doesn't it concern you the direction the US is going?


1) I don't argue that living with his parents and their politics didn't help shape him, however, reports clearly stated he was moving towards the radical left. All Jimmy had to do was clarify his statement, "I Jimmy Fallon, made a mistake in my news reporting, and mislabled the assasin as MAGA. I apologize and promise to do better". But he can't, this would mean he was wrong, and all the people in his surrounding bubble are wrong. (I grew up in a democrat household, didn't turn me crazy)

2) Yes comics are here to make us laugh, not spread misinformation, you know all that stuff that the right was accused of spreading for the last decade or so.

3) Concerned, yes, however many seem to forget that many on the left called for FOX news to be removed from the air during the Biden administration. Were you as upset about that as Colbert/Kimmel. Remember Tucker (not a fan) was fired, by his employer after public outrage, for defending misinformation. Disney/ABC had every right to place Mr. Kimmel on "suspension" as he is seen as a face of the network.

This all boils down to an employer/employee issue.

Thanks for the thoughtful comments and discussion, this is how it is supposed to work.

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Originally posted by Mike in Sydney:
Nothing except the FCC which regulates interstate and international communications by radio, television, wire, satellite, and cable in all 50 states, the District of Columbia and U.S. territories.

Don’t believe it? Look it up.


Your point?

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1) I don't argue that living with his parents and their politics didn't help shape him, however, reports clearly stated he was moving towards the radical left. All Jimmy had to do was clarify his statement, "I Jimmy Fallon, made a mistake in my news reporting, and mislabled the assasin as MAGA. I apologize and promise to do better". But he can't, this would mean he was wrong, and all the people in his surrounding bubble are wrong. (I grew up in a democrat household, didn't turn me crazy)

2) Yes comics are here to make us laugh, not spread misinformation, you know all that stuff that the right was accused of spreading for the last decade or so.

3) Concerned, yes, however many seem to forget that many on the left called for FOX news to be removed from the air during the Biden administration. Were you as upset about that as Colbert/Kimmel. Remember Tucker (not a fan) was fired, by his employer after public outrage, for defending misinformation. Disney/ABC had every right to place Mr. Kimmel on "suspension" as he is seen as a face of the network.

This all boils down to an employer/employee issue.

Thanks for the thoughtful comments and discussion, this is how it is supposed to work.


Quoted as truth. I fully agree with point #1, the same for myself. Even though my parents were Democrats, they also presented the importance of truth and didn't always follow the party line. I was a registered Dem for the majority of my adult life, that party now turns my stomach.

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NO YOUR TRUMP IS THE PEDOPHILE
J E HAS/HAD THE PROOF
AND THAT IS WHY ALL THE CHIT HIT THE FAN NOW
SMOKE AND MIRRORS
TRUMP IS THE PEDOPHILE


WATCH THE VIDEO

It is your site and your "research". Do you want people to lead you by the nose? Then watch the video for yourself instead of believing someone else's description of it.
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Doug, I understand your "position" just fine.




No, you don't. You going on and on about that article is proof that you don't understand it.
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Three Shifts !
Picture America without zombies of the third world lounging in the alleys, parks, beneath bridges, trolls from alien lands, raping, killing, stealing everything you have.
' When an alien troll approaches your car at the off ramp, shoot it ! ' ~ Pinellas County Sheriff
Detaining zombies, railing them to the quarries in Cochise AZ, for seven years of indentured labor solves several problems elegantly.
Frees large cities of the economic burdens imposed by millions of aliens, recoups sweat equity of cheap labor building the walls.
A workforce of forty million unskilled workers makes for a substantial reduction in costs for the security of the Nation.
80 square miles of tent accommodations arranged in a hexagonal matrix, housing the aliens beneath the clear skies of the far south west.
All that is required is for Congress to act, a multi billion endeavor to secure the southern flank, fending off the zombie hordes.
Picture the Brad Pitt flick ' World War Z ', Gene Romero's ' Night of the Living Dead ', Yep, Zombies !
Imagine your home town free of Zombies, free of crime, free of the tax burden of Zombie support, free.


All good, right ?
Shaun of the Dead - Final Scene

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Three Shifts !
Picture America without zombies of the third world lounging in the alleys, parks, beneath bridges, trolls from alien lands, raping, killing, stealing everything you have.
' When an alien troll approaches your car at the off ramp, shoot it ! ' ~ Pinellas County Sheriff
Detaining zombies, railing them to the quarries in Cochise AZ, for seven years of indentured labor solves several problems elegantly.
Frees large cities of the economic burdens imposed by millions of aliens, recoups sweat equity of cheap labor building the walls.
A workforce of forty million unskilled workers makes for a substantial reduction in costs for the security of the Nation.
80 square miles of tent accommodations arranged in a hexagonal matrix, housing the aliens beneath the clear skies of the far south west.
All that is required is for Congress to act, a multi billion endeavor to secure the southern flank, fending off the zombie hordes.
Picture the Brad Pitt flick ' World War Z ', Gene Romero's ' Night of the Living Dead ', Yep, Zombies !
Imagine your home town free of Zombies, free of crime, free of the tax burden of Zombie support, free.


All good, right ?
Shaun of the Dead - Final Scene




While I'm not in total agreement, something like Roosevelt's New Deal for those who refuse to pull their own weight might be a good idea. If they want shelter and to eat, then we can find them projects to work on and help provide that shelter and food. Maybe even healthcare if they accept and meet the public's need to actually contribute to such projects. If not, it could be a cold and hungry winter.

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1) I don't argue that living with his parents and their politics didn't help shape him, however, reports clearly stated he was moving towards the radical left. All Jimmy had to do was clarify his statement, "I Jimmy Fallon, made a mistake in my news reporting, and mislabled the assasin as MAGA. I apologize and promise to do better". But he can't, this would mean he was wrong, and all the people in his surrounding bubble are wrong. (I grew up in a democrat household, didn't turn me crazy)

2) Yes comics are here to make us laugh, not spread misinformation, you know all that stuff that the right was accused of spreading for the last decade or so.

3) Concerned, yes, however many seem to forget that many on the left called for FOX news to be removed from the air during the Biden administration. Were you as upset about that as Colbert/Kimmel. Remember Tucker (not a fan) was fired, by his employer after public outrage, for defending misinformation. Disney/ABC had every right to place Mr. Kimmel on "suspension" as he is seen as a face of the network.

This all boils down to an employer/employee issue.

Thanks for the thoughtful comments and discussion, this is how it is supposed to work.


Here's my thoughts. It's and employee/employer issue but the way I'd handle it is bring in Kimmel, Kirk's widow and kids and let THEM tell Kimmel yes or no to a return.

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Why, that's as swell as can be !
The Hoover Dam !
Ai planning and logistics, modern like.
Well, what is the current price of admission to America ?
' You must be this tall to ride on this ride ! '
Millions from around the world desperately learning to become American in the Ellis Island Zones outside Cochise AZ.
Schools, Tent Cities, fast food joints, all the amenities of hometown, USA.
It's a grand plan, a great endeavor, the admissions protocol, answer the tests correctly, you may enter the homeland having passed your physical, virus-free.
' Welcome to America, please step this way to take your test. ' Brought to you by Congress, nuke powered infrastructure, a submarine's generator set, right off the shelf, ready to rock.


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Funny, leftists apparently aren't worried about Kimmel's lie.

But they're very worried about losing Kimmel's job more than Charlie Kirk losing his life...
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Ratings have been dropping. I wouldn't put it past them to have staged this all in an attempt to start all this drama.
That victim card must be getting pretty thin by now.
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Originally posted by bonaduce:

All Jimmy had to do was clarify his statement, "I Jimmy Fallon, made a mistake in my news reporting, and mislabled the assasin as MAGA. I apologize and promise to do better".


"Jimmy Fallon"?

Despite getting the name wrong , I'm so glad you posted that, as it makes it painfully obvious where some of the divide on this controversy is occurring. Jimmy Kimmel (or Jimmy Fallon for that matter) is not Edward R. Murrow or Walter Cronkite or Chet Huntley. Jimmy Kimmel is not "news reporting". Jimmy Kimmel Live! is a late night entertainment/comedy/talk show. Nothing more, nothing less. Jimmy Kimmel Live! is not the Six O'Clock News, nor does it pretend to be.

Everyone can argue all day about whether or not Jimmy Kimmel "lied". The fact is, it's a moot point.

 
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Thanks for the thoughtful comments and discussion, this is how it is supposed to work.


I appreciate being able to discuss this with someone level-headed as well.
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Lying is not considered to be in the Public's Interest.


Hasn't slowed The Donald down one bit!

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

I watched the first 6 seconds, and he blamed the cancellation of Jimmy Kimmel on the "forced cancellation by the FCC."

This is a complete lie. No such thing occurred.



Let's get the quote right, okay? He actually stated... "In the aftermath of Trump's insane crackdown of free speech with the forced cancellation via his FCC of Jimmy Kimmel's show..." It's just one word, but it makes a difference. It's true, the FCC did not cancel the show directly... but Trump-appointed FCC chairman/puppet Brendan Carr has made it plenty obvious to the corporations behind Kimmel's show that lack of co-operation by them would result in big problems for them with the FCC down the line. Future mergers and business opportunities for these companies would be quashed by the FCC if they didn't cancel Jimmy Kimmel's show. It's not difficult to find a hundred online reports about this.

But what really blows me away, is that you're so terrified of being exposed to information that doesn't fit your agenda. I asked you watch a grand total of one minute and fifteen seconds... one minute and fifteen seconds(!)... and you couldn't do it. You lasted six seconds. That's...just so sad.


 
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I don't watch Tucker Carlson. I know you weren't speaking to me, but generally. He's getting into too much weird stuff, and I stopped watching his show after like the 2nd or 3rd episode.


Not only will you not dare be exposed to non-MAGA flavored "news", but you now won't even watch ultra right-wing Tucker Carlson. Do you not see a problem with limiting your news input to such a narrow focus?


 
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I said it before (everyone ignored it), but I'll say it again. Jimmy Kimmel's show was cancelled because the station used this political momentum as an excuse to end his contract.


It was ignored because it's... (I'll be nice)... because it's baloney.


 
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Once again, his show was cancelled because it was losing money, and they used this as an excuse. Anyone who's thinking pragmatically about this can see that.


Shows don't suddenly get canceled mid-week due to falling ratings. Anyone with an ounce of sense can see that.
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Not only will you not dare be exposed to non-MAGA flavored "news", but you now won't even watch ultra right-wing Tucker Carlson. Do you not see a problem with limiting your news input to such a narrow focus?


Man, I've said it before, and I'll say it again... I don't really watch the news. I get a news aggregated email from the left (Daybreak Insider), and one from the left (Gabe Fleisher). That's it. I started watching Tucker, but it's too long. I don't have an hour to sit and watch someone talk at me about politics... and then he started getting into aliens and stuff and I'll just say, he outgrew me.


 
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Shows don't suddenly get canceled mid-week due to falling ratings. Anyone with an ounce of sense can see that.


Patrick... when you have a contract, you're forced to abide by it. The network used this as an excuse to cancel the show. It's losing money... and hard. Only 127k people watched it from the age group of 18-49 the night before the shooting. People just don't watch that **** anymore. I mean... some of my watch video YouTube videos have more views than that.

It was literally just an excuse. It was the first thing I thought of when I heard his show was cancelled, and apparently, this is also what many financial analysts are saying too. If it makes you feel any better that big bad Trump forced them to cancel the show (I still don't understand what your point was above with the word change), then so be it. But people just aren't watching the late night show. Most people younger than me stream everything now. I know you're older than me... but most Gen-Xers and Boomers still use cable... everyone younger than us doesn't.

What Kimmel said was no big deal, seriously... no one should be offended. The left ALWAYS says the shooter is MAGA (it never is, but anyway)... why this time would be so pearl clutching that Kimmel said it, is beyond me. This was just an excuse...
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

...why this time would be so pearl clutching that Kimmel said it, is beyond me.


Apparently! lol

We'll have to agree to disagree. I'm sure more will eventually come out in the wash.
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