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33 years later, ignorant people are still perpetuating the same old nonsense. by David Hambleton
Started on: 05-14-2021 10:49 PM
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Report this Post05-14-2021 11:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RaydarSend a Private Message to RaydarEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Why do people even read this crap?
It's all click-bait, written by morons who use each others' articles as "a reference".
The term "circle jerk" comes to mind.
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Report this Post05-14-2021 11:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for IMSA GTSend a Private Message to IMSA GTEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Morons write a B.S story and give image credit to where...... "National Motor Museum/Heritage Images"......because only the very WORST cars make it to the Heritage Museum, right?

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Jeeeezzzzz....."Ugly"...? I have heard "fire"....I have heard "Death-trap".....I have heard "Low-quality" and "Junk".....But I have never heard >>Ugly<<

That is a really stupidly written article.......And I bet they are not being paid by Toyota for "Invisible" ads like C&D and R&T were during the 80s......

"Dangerous" >>> Best 5 star rating of Any car during the 80s- except for ONE Volvo...

"Fire-Bomb" >>> 260 fires out of 340,000 gives the Fiero a better than average record for all cars

"Low-quality" >>> First US car built using Edward Deming's TQM process (ALL cars now are made using some version of TQM

"Ugly" >>> I bet these fools think the new Honda Civic is a great looking car (It was hard to type those words together...)

I-D-OTS!!!!!!
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Report this Post05-15-2021 03:16 AM Click Here to See the Profile for AustralianClick Here to visit Australian's HomePageSend a Private Message to AustralianEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Who is fooling who? We just gave it all credibility as now you have fiero.com linking to the publication giving it SEO value if they wrote actual facts that no one talked about it wouldn't be shared like this. The article will now rank well in search engines because everyone is pointing to it.

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Report this Post05-15-2021 09:56 AM Click Here to See the Profile for hyperv6Send a Private Message to hyperv6Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Some of you folks just need to get a grip.

This is just a click bait story for advertising. They are generally poor when it comes to facts and often embellished to draw controversy and more clicks. Clicks = Money and you spreading this just makes them more money.

The truth is for looks that is a personal choice. Not everyone is going to love our cars so get used to it.

Then accept our car was not perfect as it did have some issues. Be honest on the truth as well be honest in the flaws. This leads to the owners being creditable vs just raving idiots like some car models have.

The truth is if you look there are no perfect cars and there are no universally loved models. There are those who hate even Ferrari.

So hang in there act like you live in the real world and accept the good reviews and ignore the hate. You let the hate control you they will target you much more.

A while back the X1/9 owners got overly offended and defensive. It just got more crap sent at them as it would ignite some into fanatical tirades. It became a joke around the car hobby.

Remember you as an owner represent all owners when you speak out so do it wisely and carefully. Be honest and wise. What you say can and will be used not just against you but all Fiero owners.

Note I have been at this for going on 40 years now with just this car. I have seen the highs and low. There was a time I was a celebrity owing a Fiero to a decade of being the village fool for owning one. Today generally it is back to feeling the love for the most part. Still there are some idiots futveven the Fiero has a few idiots too. Just the nature of the hobby.

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Originally posted by hyperv6:

Note I have been at this for going on 45 years now with just this car.



Since 1976?

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Since 1976?


Actually close. I collected my first bits of memorabilia back in late 79. I still have the article on the rumored 2 seat Pontiac.

I have owned my car since new in 1985.

I rounded it to 40 to make you feel better.

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The article was obviously written by an imbecile who sights a few early issues and uses this to judge the entire production run. IMO the Pontiac Fiero is a timeless design that was way ahead of other GM cars. IMO, the style especially the GT's still look modern today.

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Originally posted by Raydar:

Why do people even read this crap?
It's all click-bait, written by morons who use each others' articles as "a reference".


I think you may be right; the articles read like something a schoolkid wrote after five minutes of "research" on the Google.

Example: the 1960-something Buick Skylark: "This car epitomizes everything about plain, basic and boring that took place in the 1980s in the U.S. The Skylark’s body is an unattractive boxy shape.... it so easily represents everything we should forever leave behind in the 1980s." Seems they used a 1960s photo to illustrate a jab at the 80s?

Interesting how they mentioned the 1959 Buick and Oldsmobile but jumped to the 1960 model for Chevy.... But no Pontiac from either year.

I can't believe I spent a whole 90 seconds reading the pages.
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They lost all credibly when article said the mid-80's Mercury Capri looks like a Station Wagon...

The Ford Fox platform Capri looks NOTHING like a station wagon, and most people agree its flared fenders and aggressive fascia looks better than a Mustang.



Yes, the article reads like it was written by a young person with ZERO knowledge of automobiles, just more ignorant internet nonsense.

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Originally posted by Skybax:
Yes, the article reads like it was written by a young person with ZERO knowledge of automobiles, just more ignorant internet nonsense.



Must have been Doug DeMuro
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I want to point out something here; Looks are (Obviously) subjective........

My favorite car (Styling-wise) of all time is the Lamborghini Miura.........Just utterly gorgeous!



But most people like the Countach- The original concept was decent looking, but after a while they had added GLUE-on fender flares, wings and scoops...and it started looking like an Escapee from a J. C. Whitney catalog!

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I want to point out something here; Looks are (Obviously) subjective........

My favorite car (Styling-wise) of all time is the Lamborghini Miura.........Just utterly gorgeous!



Beautiful lines, the hood louvers remind me of one of my favorites, the mid-engine American Motors AMX3...

https://amx3.org/the-cars/

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My best friend at NAS Alameda was a Rambler fanatic...Owned a couple of 71 Javelins, a 69 SWB AMX, a Gremlin. His main car was one of the 71 Javelins, which he built up using Mark Donahue's "The Unfair Advamtage" about Trans Am racing; The 401 he built up developed 500 hp at 7000 rpm- yet the car's best feature was the handling.

When he had all of those AMCs we started calling his place "Brian's used Rambler Emporium"

Back then (1980s) was when I found out about that Mid-engine AMC..........What a great design!
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Do not feed the clickbait.
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I read another one the other day, yes, click bait so I won't post it here. The essence was about 10 Pontiacs that were good cars but failed to sell. Well, the article had an opening picture of a 74 or 75 Grand Am so....click...as I love those cars. Anyway, totally discounted the Fiero with a back handed comment. But, I guess the Fiero did sell quite well over the first couple years so wasn't eligible as an example of "didn't sell".
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Every time I get mad at stuff like this, I just remember that anyone who actually believes what they read in those articles isn't the sort of person who would buy a Fiero anyway. Let them believe what they want. It just lowers the demand for Fieros (and their parts) so the rest of us who know better can get to them!
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few more capris
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few more capris


Thanks for that memory, this is similar to the 73 2.6 V6 I had. Cool, quick little car but prone to rust unfortunately. Owned it a few years prior to my purchase of a new 85 GT.

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I recently talked to 3 guys at a cruise night, each of whom had family members that had a Fiero 'back in the day'.
I was there with my 1929 Ford Model A and I'm not sure how Fieros entered the conversation, but one guy's mother sold hers after seeing one on fire.
When I explained that the 7 tenths of 1 percent of fires was below the industry average, that was news to them.
One guy said he thought it was a 1984 issue so I mentioned about the low oil issue etc.
Anyway, there are now 3 fewer mis-informed people.
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https://www.brakeforit.com/...trucks-ever-made/12/


Not everybody!

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