Found a better source for harnesses and parts that I use to make the 3800 series II swap harnesses so I will be dropping my prices slightly. When the person has a 3800 harness to give me I will charge $400 CDN for the complete swap harness and if they do not have a usable harness I will charge $450 CDN for the complete swap harness. Not a big difference but I found a way to do things a little cheaper cost wise so I am passing on the savings. Dan
Are you going to be using a series I or II PCM with your series II engine. If so send it if not send it any ways I can always save it for a series I swap harness. So send me the harness I will make you up a series II swap harness and send it back to you. Most cases I get the finished harness on its way back within one week of recieving the parts. Dan
Awesome! The wiring is something I have no desire in messing with. I assume the harness will be plug-n-play? Do you have picture examples of your work? I'm very interested. Do you need the Fiero harness sent also? What's your price, shipped, in U.S. dollars, to zip 50138?
I pay for return shipping on all my harnesses within reason. There is some photos up at the link below my sig, have to look in a few pages as every thing is in no particular order.The harness will plug right into your C203 and C500 connectors so just send me those two connector portions off your engine harness along with the 3800 harness and I will make up the harness and ship it back to you. Dan EDIT something is going wrong with photosled right now will contact them to see whats wrong. ------------------
Are you going to be using a series I or II PCM with your series II engine. If so send it if not send it any ways I can always save it for a series I swap harness. So send me the harness I will make you up a series II swap harness and send it back to you. Most cases I get the finished harness on its way back within one week of recieving the parts. Dan
series 1 pcm cause its already there and cause Darth is my programmer! Is it still $400? Thanks, Drew
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Nov 24th, 2006
fierogt455 Member
Posts: 282 From: Goldsboro, NC Registered: Jun 2004
Yes it is still $400 if you send along the series I harness as I would need the PCM connectors off it anyways. My average turn around is less than a week from arrival of the harness till it is on its way back. I also cover return shipping costs within reason. Dan
I am now a few sets of mounts ahead as well if any one wants a kit for the 3800 instal including the harness and mounts that I use I would be wanting $600 CDN every thing. Dan
Hey FieroFlyer, I talked to the wife... she'll let me get the harness, after I complete a couple things on the honey-do-list... Hopefully in a month or so. I'll keep in touch.
i am intrested in the harnes i have a few questions. 1 can i choose a diffrant loom color than black? also the harnes i have is off a 97 Buick Riviera i know the 97 gtps where not the same as the 98+ but do you know about the rivieras? also do you know off hand what 400 cnd is in usd at the moment? and finaly how well suited is your motor mounts for high horse power apps? im looking at close the the 500 rwh mark
Most go with the GTP PCM's for ease of tuning and for 97 to 2000 the GTP PCM's work fine with out pass key. I can wire up a harness to work with a Riveirra just fine, as for my mounts look at the photos in the link below my sig they are for 4 speed auto swaps and are very strong with a mount being used at all four corners not piveting under the center of the engine. Not sure of USD conversions as that changes daily. Dan
chrisgtp you have a pm and yes I can use different colours the way I make my harnesses is to tottaly strip the harness, reroute all the wires soldering and heat shrinking any connections, tape up the harness and then apply the loom. Once the loom is on I tape up the entire harness again and use heat tape where ever necessary. What I do with the final taping is use different colour electrical tape if desired by customer. I make all my harnesses to the same standards that is required by Transport Canada for aircraft usage as my main wiring experience is from 12 years as an Avionics technician six of which was in the Canadian Forces. Dan
I am now a few sets of mounts ahead as well if any one wants a kit for the 3800 instal including the harness and mounts that I use I would be wanting $600 CDN every thing. Dan
Dan-- are the mounts a straight bolt in for a 3800SC with a 4T65E-HD or is there more modification required?
Second question--is it possible to use the Mustang exhaust headers without cutting the trunk?
Thx.
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josef644 Member
Posts: 6939 From: Dickinson, Texas USA Registered: Nov 2006
Can you build a 3800 Series I N/A harness ( 1990 Pontiac Bonnie) for a 1985 SE ? I want to use the 4T60 that was bolted to it. I have a 4sp right now. I do not have a PCM yet Thanks
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The mounts bolt right to the engine and tranny just need to have the two steel plates I supply welded to your engine cradle. The reason I started using the Mustang manifolds was to make it easier to retain the trunk, they will clear. Can do series I harnesses as well which will also plug right into the Fiero C203 and C500 connectors. Dan
It has been sugested that I point out the engine in the photos is my dummy block. I use it for making up harnesses and mocking up brackets and mounts on, I only cleaned and painted it to make it nicer to work on. I also have a blown 4T65E tranny for the same reason. Plus have lots of manual trannies laying around for making things off of. I prefer to do things like welding up brackets and mounts on my dummy block instead of customers engines. Dan
I am wondering about a Series one harness. I have a 1993 Bonneville SSEi that will be donating its engine and automatic transmission for a 1986 GT. I want to mount the PCM in the stock Fiero Location. I want the wiring harness to follow routing similar to the Fiero stock routing. I want to eventually have AC working. I have Purple Reign's mounts coming for Xmas. I want all of the guages and speedo to work. I want it to be neat and tidy using stock split wire loom.
Are these reasonable expectations for someone purchasing one of your harnesses?
What do you need to get started? How much of the original cars' wires do you need?
I am wondering about a Series one harness. I have a 1993 Bonneville SSEi that will be donating its engine and automatic transmission for a 1986 GT. I want to mount the PCM in the stock Fiero Location. I want the wiring harness to follow routing similar to the Fiero stock routing. I want to eventually have AC working. I have Purple Reign's mounts coming for Xmas. I want all of the guages and speedo to work. I want it to be neat and tidy using stock split wire loom.
Are these reasonable expectations for someone purchasing one of your harnesses?
What do you need to get started? How much of the original cars' wires do you need?
Rick
No this would be fine as I believe the decisions should be left up to the owner not the maker. All I need is the 3800 engine harness along with the engine part of your Fieros C203 and C500. If you want drop by some times Adam AKA thumper knows where I live. There may even be some parts here you need for your car. I take it this is all going into the GT you recently got from Ottawa. Dan
No this would be fine as I believe the decisions should be left up to the owner not the maker. All I need is the 3800 engine harness along with the engine part of your Fieros C203 and C500. If you want drop by some times Adam AKA thumper knows where I live. There may even be some parts here you need for your car. I take it this is all going into the GT you recently got from Ottawa. Dan
I think it will be going into that car, but I have to decide. I have not had a real chance to get that car up on the hoist. I currently have two 1986 GT's one is a manual 4 speed with AC. The other is the auto with no AC I just got from Ottawa. I want the 3800 SC to be Auto with AC. The other car I am building is the reincarnation of the LT1 V8 car which will be manual, with AC being a future consideration. This all leaves me with a decision regarding which car gets which drive train.
I really do not know what sort of shape the Ottawa car is in other than that the body has very little damage except for a failed paint job attempt. The rear rails must be replaced. The lower rad support is rusted badly. The doors open and close like a new car. The power locks, mirrors and windows work. The steering feels nice and tight. I will know more wil the body panels come off on the hoist for the rear rails replacement. Oh yeah, the interior is in good shape.
So, what I want to end up with on this 3800SC is a couple week swap. The exhaust should be no prob. the cooling system should be no prob. Wiring and mounts will be purchased.
Hurdles I see are alternator mounting, AC mounting and configuration, and possibly computer tuning. Safety Certification should be a no problem sort of deal. And it should not need emissions. The new mandatory appraisal might suck.
So, I will actually ask this question again with some clarification on my part. I have the whole Bonneville minus the Seats. (Already sold) From what part forward should I give you the harness? What do you not need? As far as the fiero harness, I should have an 86 4 cylinder harness laying around would that do? What sections of the harness do you need there? Also, if Adam is up to a drive out there, what is the time between Xmas and new years looking like for you?
I should be home all week minus one day to take the kids to see their Grandmother in Peterborough. For the Bonneville just from the firewall forward is all I need and from the Fiero just the engine part of the C203 and C500 connectors with a little wire left on them. It would help if the connectors are from the vehicle getting the swap as these connectors differ between years and options. Dan
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spookything Member
Posts: 268 From: Toronto, ON, Canada Registered: Oct 2003
I've sent my harnesses off to Dan on 12/23 for integration. I'll keep everyone updated on how all goes. Based on the pictures and information that Dan shares on Pennocks, I can't wait to get the harness back and get my 3800 install completed!
Thanks for the help Dan.... matt
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spookything Member
Posts: 268 From: Toronto, ON, Canada Registered: Oct 2003
Just wanted to let everyone know...I received my 3800SC harness back from Dan yesterday. The harness looks complete and looks very professionally done. Almost looks like a stock harness; which is exactly what I wanted. I'll be installing the harness onto my engine later this week.
Thanks Dan! matt
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Jan 22nd, 2007
Brian Lamberts Member
Posts: 2691 From: TUCSON AZ USA Registered: Feb 2003
Wow... it's been a long time since I've been on here!! Hello again, PFF!
I JUST rescued my long lost baby 85 notchback from four years of storage in a barn in San Antonio. I carted her back to my new house and just started reexamining her in prep for startup. Originally when I did the swap, I know absolutely nothing. NADA... Now that I am going through her thoroughly... um... it's a mess. The freeze plugs popped out and there are some holy hoses etc... Time to pull the engine out and do it right this time.
I started the project when I started college as an experimental foray into the world of cars. Since then I have completed 7 other car projects and now it's time to go back to my roots to my favorite car. You guys know how I feel, I'm sure. The wiring harness is spliced and it was running and driving (very quickly I might add) in limp mode when I gave up the project and put her in storage. Unfortunately, I pretty much need to start over on the wiring it appears. Kinda Aggie-rigged I had documentation at one point... but lord knows where it is. Basically at this point it isn't worth my time (A&M grad student) to troubleshoot wiring. I'd rather just get someone who is familiar with it to assemble the harness so I can concentrate on mechanical.
The engine is a L36 3800 Series II from a 1995 Camaro (FREE!). The car is an 85 4cyl that used to be an auto... but I swapped in a 5 speed... though I forget the make.
Count me in on a harness service for the L36! You can shoot me an email at skyline@infinissan.com. I'll PM you and you can PM me back, though I am not on PFF as much as I want to be (or will be later when she runs). I'll be back in the thread as well.
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May 17th, 2007
Jay-ID Member
Posts: 377 From: Boise, ID, USA Registered: Dec 2001
No still the same price $400 if you have a harness for me to work with and $450 if I have to supply the harness. I am in my very busy time of year but am still averaging under two weeks turn around time per harness. Dan
No still the same price $400 if you have a harness for me to work with and $450 if I have to supply the harness. I am in my very busy time of year but am still averaging under two weeks turn around time per harness. Dan
Would you be able to do a harness to swap a 97 GS L67 into an '87 Buick LeSabre(H-body)??
I know on the LeSabreT.com forum, there would be a market for 87-89 LeSabres.
Did a few 3800SC swaps into Pontiac 6000's and even one into my 95 trans Sport van. They use a similar wiring system just it is a C100 instead of a C500 so it shouldn't be too bad of a harness to make. I would have to either have a car here or go make one up on a car at the wreckers for the first one then just record all the required wire lengths to make any more harnesses after that. Dan
DAN, WAS WONDERING HOW ONE GETS AN ADDRESS, AND HOW TO SPECIFY WHAT THEY WANT DONE,WHAT PAYMENTS DO YOU ACCEPT, IS THERE A WAY TO GET A HOLD OF YOU, I THINK WHAT YOUR DOING IS GREAT THANKS CASEY
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ME2 Junior Member
Posts: 7 From: bellevue ne usa Registered: Apr 2007
DAN, WAS WONDERING HOW ONE GETS AN ADDRESS, AND HOW TO SPECIFY WHAT THEY WANT DONE,WHAT PAYMENTS DO YOU ACCEPT, IS THERE A WAY TO GET A HOLD OF YOU, I THINK WHAT YOUR DOING IS GREAT THANKS CASEY
My e-mail is dansflyer@aol.com I use postal money orders as payment, just send me an email with the information on your car and how you want the harness built. Dan
I had documentation at one point... but lord knows where it is. Basically at this point it isn't worth my time (A&M grad student) to troubleshoot wiring. I'd rather just get someone who is familiar with it to assemble the harness so I can concentrate on mechanical.
