You would have to ask Allah. لك أن تسأل الل ---------------------------- Actually nothing. Its done and not announced, nothing happens as they dont know it happened. عمليا لا شيء. ولم يعلن عن ذلك, لم يحدث شيء ما لسنا نعلم ما حصل.
-------------------------------------------- !أنت تحرق حكم فكيف يجرؤ من القرآن
(Infidel, how dare you burn a Quran) [joke intentions]
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James Bond 007 Member
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In this (and other civilized) countries: nothing. And if something did happen, the perpetrators would be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
And that's the great thing about modern, secular societies which are the product of Enlightenment. Much of the world (including most muslim countries) still have to learn that.
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SSG Larry Member
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I just saw the Muslins Destroy Graves of WW II Vets. Thats why I posted this topic. If I did burn the Quran I would post it on YouTube just to pizz them off, but I will not burn one because it will give the nut bags one more reason to kill your troops. I guess I am a little upset to see the Graves being destroied.
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Rickady88GT Member
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Just like the subject says what would happen to me if I burned a Quran?
As long as the book is yours, and you feel the need to burn it, you can do it. God will not punish you for it, people that say they follow God will get angry at you. BUT just remember that your actions could affect others. You could cause a nutjuob to hurt people that had nothing to do with the burning. The freedome to burn is like the freedom of speach. Just because you can say your opinion out loud in public does not mean it is wise to do it anywere any time. So some things are better off said (burnt) in private and NOT made public. Burning books and flags is ment to insult people, and people recact to what they see as an insult/attack.
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SSG Larry Member
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As long as the book is yours, and you feel the need to burn it, you can do it. God will not punish you for it, people that say they follow God will get angry at you. BUT just remember that your actions could affect others. You could cause a nutjuob to hurt people that had nothing to do with the burning. The freedome to burn is like the freedom of speach. Just because you can say your opinion out loud in public does not mean it is wise to do it anywere any time. So some things are better off said (burnt) in private and NOT made public. Burning books and flags is ment to insult people, and people recact to what they see as an insult/attack.
I just saw the Muslins Destroy Graves of WW II Vets. Thats why I posted this topic. If I did burn the Quran I would post it on YouTube just to pizz them off, but I will not burn one because it will give the nut bags one more reason to kill your troops. I guess I am a little upset to see the Graves being destroied.
You did see that done....in Libya.
You're in New York. If you burned a Koran in New York, what would happen is likely precisely what Yellowstone said would happen: nothing. If something did, those responsible would be prosecuted for their actions when caught.
We're not an extremist country looking to install a radical theocratic form of government. Libya, at present, is.
That's what makes us different.
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SSG Larry Member
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Understood, but just turn this around and say that what made you angry and caused this recation also causes the same reaction from people in islam. You did not hurt anyone but that same "venting" could have caused a person on a mission to hurt people. If you understand frustration, you understand why "they" do what they do. Thety get just as frustrated at America as you get at them. You just could not "pull the triger", they believe they get rewarded for pulling the triger.
Just like the subject says what would happen to me if I burned a Quran?
What would happen to you? Probably nothing. You might be attacked or killed, but it's unlikely. More likely someone in another country would be murdered by someone outraged by your action.
You'd also be at risk of being picketed by anti-hate groups and CAIR. The NAACP would claim it's racism and you might get a call from President Obama telling you what a bad person you are. The media would publish your picture and address in the paper, purely in the interest of unbiased news reporting. Just look at the response the guy in FL got when he said he was going to burn one.
Oh, and the liberals on here would blame you for the deaths of any American troops overseas in the aftermath.
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SSG Larry Member
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Understood, but just turn this around and say that what made you angry and caused this recation also causes the same reaction from people in islam. You did not hurt anyone but that same "venting" could have caused a person on a mission to hurt people. If you understand frustration, you understand why "they" do what they do. Thety get just as frustrated at America as you get at them. You just could not "pull the triger", they believe they get rewarded for pulling the triger.
But I have pulled the triger, on my fisrt deployment I was a gunner I did alot of convoys, room clearing and guard tower duty. They made me pull the triger it was me or them.
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What would happen to you? Probably nothing. You might be attacked or killed, but it's unlikely. More likely someone in another country would be murdered by someone outraged by your action.
You'd also be at risk of being picketed by anti-hate groups and CAIR. The NAACP would claim it's racism and you might get a call from President Obama telling you what a bad person you are. The media would publish your picture and address in the paper, purely in the interest of unbiased news reporting. Just look at the response the guy in FL got when he said he was going to burn one.
Oh, and the liberals on here would blame you for the deaths of any American troops overseas in the aftermath.
If he did it in Times Square and posted it on YouTube with a link to his Facebook page, some if not all of that stuff could potentially occur. If he wanted that kind of attention or to draw that sort of reaction, I'm certain he could....it's relatively easy to incite people....it's done every day by all manner of folks.
That's low-hanging fruit, to say the least. In the words of the late Richard Pryor "If you order s#!T, you EAT s#!t!"
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If he did it in Times Square and posted it on YouTube with a link to his Facebook page, some if not all of that stuff could potentially occur. If he wanted that kind of attention or to draw that sort of reaction, I'm certain he could.
That's low-hanging fruit, to say the least. In the words of the late Richard Pryor "If you order s#!T, you EAT s#!t!"
I did make an assumption he didn't explicitly state: that he wouldn't burn it in secret and other people would find out about it. I hope that doesn't seem unreasonable. If he did it in secret, chances are nothing would happen.
If you burn a Quran in America and there's nobody around to see it, do Afghanis still riot?
In this (and other civilized) countries: nothing. And if something did happen, the perpetrators would be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Unless you are someone of importance. Then you will be legally harassed by the media and perhaps even scolded buy the current administration in Washington. You might even have some retaliatory revenge cast at you if you are famous enough of a target ( as you eluded to ).
But for the average Joe, i agree, nothing will, as nothing should.
We would like to think nothing would happen, and indeed the least that might happen is death threats. However, some idiot might try and take you out, and some bleeding heart might sue you.
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But I have pulled the triger, on my fisrt deployment I was a gunner I did alot of convoys, room clearing and guard tower duty. They made me pull the triger it was me or them.
That is not at all what I ment. The triger of hate against people that offended you. You stoped short of pulling the triger (posting vidio of burning a book for the purpose of offending people that you are angry at) because you or somebody else may be punished. But they believe that they will get a reward for (pulling the triger of hate) attacking people that they think attacks their god.
I just saw the Muslins Destroy Graves of WW II Vets. Thats why I posted this topic. If I did burn the Quran I would post it on YouTube just to pizz them off, but I will not burn one because it will give the nut bags one more reason to kill your troops. I guess I am a little upset to see the Graves being destroied.
I have never seen a situation that escalation and one-upmanship helped. Ever. Just my opinion, but do what you want.. just remember that we have soldiers over there and they have to deal with increasing tensions daily. It sounds like a bad idea to me.
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On a side note, Zeb is right. When an American Flag becomes too old and beat-up to be serviceable, the proper way to dispose of it is in a flag burning ceremony.
Originally posted by Alibi: Muslim equivalent to the Christian Bible.
yes, but no. Christians do not think the Bible is so "holy" that people have to die for burning it. It is just paper and ink, that tells truth, you can acept it or not. muslims think the coran is so holy that it can not be harmed, as if it were god himself.
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yes, but no. Christians do not think the Bible is so "holy" that people have to die for burning it. It is just paper and ink, that tells truth, you can acept it or not. muslims think the coran is so holy that it can not be harmed, as if it were god himself.
That's another nice thing secular Enlightenment has brought us. Christian used to get pretty nasty when someone cried "blasphemy". Islam needs something similar to happen.
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