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How much smoke inhalation is dangerous? Any home treatments? :/ by faaaaq
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some of you may have seen that my car started on fire while going down the highway at 3am on thursday. well, i inhaled a lot (a LOT) of smoke in that event. probably two periods 60-90 seconds each where i simply could not breathe at all because it was all smoke, and a few minutes of time where i was putting out the fire and removing any remaining hot bits of plastic/rubber/etc. the smoke was coming from a mix of burning carpet, burning insulation from under the carpet, and the rubber floormat. was not black smoke but was THICK. just a few minutes and the windshield was caked with residue so thick you couldnt see thru it. since then, i need to cough with almost every breath (i hold it in, obviously). idk if its from the smoke or it its just allergies or if i happened to get sick around that time as well or what, but it sucks. it makes doing my job miserable and difficult. makes talking annoying lol. no lung pain or actual trouble breathing, or coughing up blood or gunk of anything. this a possible severe medical issue? i dont have any insurance, so... any home methods for treating smoke inhalation?
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Since you don't have insurance, I have a home remedy for you. Try hanging 10 silver (plated) heart pendants around your neck.
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Smoke, is not all you should be considering. As you mentioned, the smoke was not black. Different colored smoke would designate the materials burned producing said smoke. Regulations have mandated the composition interiors in planes and buses, as poisons and other toxins are released.
As far as home remedies, I think all you have is breathing. The body, and the organs in it, always repairs itself with time. Even a smokers lungs will clean up given enough time with clean air and no more smoking.
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Give it a few weeks and see how you feel.
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Originally posted by jaskispyder:
Give it a few weeks and see how you feel.


I agree,not much you can do at the moment.You should allways protect your lungs as much as possible,that stuff can clog your lungs and it doesnt realley go away.One of my relitives worked in a baby powder factory, and he never wore a dust mask.Well when he went to the Dr. he said his lungs were coated with baby powder and he had to have his lungs scraped.You can allso get a simular problem with inhaleing poland,its called Valley Feaver.You can go to a clink for a low cost Dr.,they usually use the slideing scale.As for legal prescriptions try this http://www.coast2coastrx.com/
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When you have time away from everyone, cough as much as you can. Let whatever that's in your lungs out. If you have to puke, puke. Your body is trying to get rid of the foreign stuff, let it.
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You can allso get a simular problem with inhaleing poland,its called Valley Feaver


LOL. How do you inhale an entire country? I guess you meant pollen can cause the Valley Fever problem. Faaaaq, you may need to see a doctor or get your hands on a nebulizer to help clean out your lungs.
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Originally posted by Gokart Mozart:

When you have time away from everyone, cough as much as you can. Let whatever that's in your lungs out. If you have to puke, puke. Your body is trying to get rid of the foreign stuff, let it.


uhhhhhh, puke? How is that gonna clean out his lungs? Is this some sorta Polish remedy?
(I'd hate to hear what you recommend to help remove colon polyps!!!)


Your lungs have cilia which are constantly waving, trying to bring stuff up out of your lungs... You should be ok, but it'll take some time. You breathed in a lot of toxic chemicals...but within a few weeks, you should feel back to normal. Good luck.

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being you are here to post - you made it thru the dangerous part.

from here it is just trying to "clean up". Many years ago, I had a kerosene heater go funny while I was sleeping, and filled the room with soot. I should have suffocated that night. I was hoarking up black chunks for almost a week. When I quit smoking last year, at about the 2nd week, I was hoarking up black chunks. so - I would say - in about a week (or 2) - your lungs will clear themselves.

I dont know if things like a steam room would help or hinder. For the lung clearing for smoking - it worked great. But, the tar/nicotine is very water soluable, and really softened up the goo. I would avoid any things like methol/ucalyptous - I would think that would entrench the stuff deeper? but - again - not really sure what to say - other than to give it a week.

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Despite the fact that you tend to get offended whenever people try to give you advice of any type, I might recommend using a Neti pot to irrigate your sinuses. Like it has been said, your body will heal itself by pushing all of the soot and particulates out of your lungs, it will all wind up in your booger vault. You will have some interesting nose goblins for a while, but you will probably live.
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Originally posted by WhiteDevil88:

Despite the fact that you tend to get offended whenever people try to give you advice of any type, I might recommend using a Neti pot to irrigate your sinuses. Like it has been said, your body will heal itself by pushing all of the soot and particulates out of your lungs, it will all wind up in your booger vault. You will have some interesting nose goblins for a while, but you will probably live.


very petty of you to mention something like that, be it the truth or not. there is a time and a place.

but hmm. i was kinda hoping for a quick solution... my entire job revolves around being able to speak 250ish words per minute (sometimes a lot less, sometimes a lot more) quickly, clearly and continually. i had to call in sick yesterday and today because i have to control my breathign or ill go into a coughing fit.

and the smoke, i honestly dont remember what color it was, im just almost 100% that it wasnt black. it was seriously thick tho. thankfully we had the windows open already, not that it really helped much...
but i guess i will give it as much time as i can afford (3-4 more days..) and see if i can maybe cough up whatever is making me feel the need to cough.
i was hoping it was maybe just allergies, because i have pretty bad allergies, but ive been in my sealed up, air conditioned apartment most of this time and taking allergy meds with no affect on the breathing/coughing.
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well, all this time later and its not better. slightly worse if anything. possibly going to the doctor tomorrow if i have money for gas and can pull myself out of bed in the morning. missed work this entire time since my job relies 100% on being able to talk fast, for a long time, without stopping. sometimes an hour or so of nonstop highspeed (150-200+ wpm) talking. i cant type that fast, and we get yelled at if we are typing too much of a call....so, i might be getting fired as well, and i have $100 that has to go to rent ($300), registration ($75), phone bill ($100), insurance ($100), etc... bad year for me :/

for anyone that cares, if i go to the doc tomorrow i will post back with what they say. im hoping it nothing serious...i dont have insurance and i need to be able to do my job. my cough is starting to get more "intense," for lack of a better word. otherwise i feel healthy. so we will see, maybe.
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When/if you go to the doc, make sure you mention what type of materials were involved in the fire. Any burning hydrocarbon based product, including plastic, man made fibers, (carpet), adhesives, and vinyls are very rough on the respiratory system--much moreso than wood, leaves, grass, or paper smoke.

(I realize this was a small vehicle fire, but many people have survived an airliner crash impact only to quickly die from hydrocarbon smoke inhalation once all the plastic starts burning in the passenger compartments--and those who survive that, have a very difficult and lengthy recovery ahead of them--it's simply that toxic.)
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Originally posted by maryjane:

...Any burning hydrocarbon based product, including plastic, man made fibers, (carpet), adhesives, and vinyls...



that is a list of what it was lol. and also rubber and insulation. and i guess no vinyl caught fire but almost...

my breathing is noticeably difficult. every breath has to be controlled or ill start coughing uncontrollably. and the only way to stop is to hold my breath as hard as i can, so between the two im not getting much oxygen compared to normal. the clinic im maybe going to is a free clinic run my med students so i cant really get treated there, just (possibly, no for-sures) diagnosed. frankly im more concerned about my lack of rent/bill/car-repair money and the possibility of losing my job (and PISSED about the fact that if my paycheck hadnt been 2 weeks late, NONE of this would be happening..) :/
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Seek medical attention if you experience the following symptoms with smoke inhalation:

Hoarse voice

Difficulty breathing

Drawn out coughing spells

Mental confusion

Decide whether to call an ambulance with care.

Someone with smoke inhalation can get worse quickly.

If such a person were transported by private vehicle, significant injury or death could occur on the way that could have been avoided if that person were transported by emergency medical services.


 
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Medical Treatment

A number of treatments may be given for smoke inhalation.

Oxygen

Oxygen is the mainstay of treatment.

Oxygen may be applied with a nose tube, mask, or through a tube down your throat.

If you have signs and symptoms of upper airway problems (hoarseness), you will most likely be intubated. The doctor places a tube down your throat to keep your airway from closing due to swelling.

If you have respiratory distress or mental status changes, you may also be intubated to let the staff help with your breathing, to suction off mucus, and keep you from breathing the contents of your stomach.


Bronchoscopy

Bronchoscopy is a procedure performed to directly look at the degree of damage done to the airways through a small scope and to allow suctioning of secretions and debris.

Usually bronchoscopy is done through an endotracheal tube after you receive adequate sedation and pain relievers.

Bronchoscopy may be necessary if you have growing respiratory failure, fail to demonstrate clinical improvement, or a segment of your lung remains collapsed.


Hyperbaric oxygenation (HBO)

If you have carbon monoxide poisoning, hyperbaric oxygenation may be considered.

Hyperbaric oxygenation is a treatment in which you are given oxygen in a compression chamber.

Some studies have demonstrated that hyperbaric oxygenation causes a reduction in symptoms of the nervous system, and if you have carbon monoxide poisoning, it can make your recovery quicker.

The indications for and availability of this treatment vary depending on the institution and the region in which you are hospitalized.


There really isn't much you can do at home other than sit and wait to see if it gets better, or not.
Since it happened over a day ago, you're probably not going to die, but there may be the possibility you won't recover as fully without medical treatment as you would with it. All that crap on your windshield also got into your lungs. Hopefully someone on here with some medical experience will chime in, but if it were me, I'd at least go to an Urgent Care and worry about paying for it later.
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Originally posted by Formula88:
There really isn't much you can do at home other than sit and wait to see if it gets better, or not.
Since it happened over a day ago, you're probably not going to die, but there may be the possibility you won't recover as fully without medical treatment as you would with it. All that crap on your windshield also got into your lungs. Hopefully someone on here with some medical experience will chime in, but if it were me, I'd at least go to an Urgent Care and worry about paying for it later.


other than mental confusion, i have everything in the first post, but hoarse voice is only now an then. and idr if i mentioned or not but the coughing is totally dry coughs.

those quotes did help tho, now im near 100% sure it was from my car (i also have bad allergies, thought that might be a possibility even tho ive never experienced somethign like this before).

also, CRAP. i have the worst (best?) gag reflex ever.... i cant even swallow the original Rx Claritin (it was like, 3mm lol) without gagging like crazy... if they gotta shove a tube in my throat, that will not be good at all..idk if ill be able to handle that
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Originally posted by faaaaq:


if they gotta shove a tube in my throat, that will not be good at all..idk if ill be able to handle that


Deal with it. Long term health is more important than your short term comfort.
I'm worried for ya. Please update the thread again tomorrow WHEN you see the doctor.
Borrow money. Do SOMETHING to get there. This is important.
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Originally posted by theBDub:


Deal with it. Long term health is more important than your short term comfort.
I'm worried for ya. Please update the thread again tomorrow WHEN you see the doctor.
Borrow money. Do SOMETHING to get there. This is important.


the comfort im less worried about that the throwing up all over the place lol

im not ready to say there is much to worry about. i mean, unless i do something active or try talking, i guess im moderately ok. breathing is a chore since i have to control it so i dont cough, but i can take deep breaths, albeit a bit slower than normal, and of course then i start coughing lol. i dont think anything toxic has affected me any, either. i can drive fine and i dont feel poisoned, and its been 2 weeks. i feel a bit dizzy and "out of it" right now but i think thats lack of sleep (was up all night taking care of a female who kept passing out due to anemia, and every time she passed out her sleep apnea kicked in and she stopped breathing...so...kinda stressful lol. my night was spent pretty much staring at her stomach making sure she was breathing, and then trying like hell to wake her up when she stopped [every time..]).

my actual health isnt much my concern, its more resolving it so i can get back to work. and other job id be able to cope, but go figure i have a job that gets completely f'ed by any breathing/coughing issues. i appreciate the concern, but i dont want to make anybody worry and then find out its asthma or something stupid. none of my family is worried and i dont think my roommates are worried much past the point of whether i will make rent or not, which is good, id rather them not worry
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Well, maybe I misinterpreted the posts.
It sounds serious.

But, you know your body better than anyone here. Do what you feel is best. But the first time I read this thread I expected it to go away soon. Since it hasn't, my worry spiked.

Take care of yourself. But you're right, not everything needs a doctor.
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well dont lose concern just because im not concerned lol. i mean, i am worried, and it does suck really bad, but i dont much let things bother me. and ive never felt like this before so my knowledge of my body doesnt help much :/. the sheer amount of residue on the window was what first made me worry, because more than what is on the window went in my lungs.

and besides, i sometimes say things just to keep everyone calm lol :P
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Expectorant: A medication that helps bring up mucus and other material from the lungs, bronchi, and trachea. An example of as expectorant is guaifenesin which promotes drainage of mucus from the lungs by thinning the mucus and also lubricates the irritated respiratory tract.

Get some you should
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Originally posted by FieroRumor:


uhhhhhh, puke? How is that gonna clean out his lungs?


You've never coughed so hard that you have to puke? I was just telling him to not hold things in.
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So what did the doctor say? Puffer? Oxygen? Please tell us the story.

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So what did the doctor say? Puffer? Oxygen? Please tell us the story.

Arn


havent gone yet. the free clinic i needed to get to by 8am but i havent been able to sleep, so when 7/8 came around i was too drowsy to drive. once i wake up more im going to try to go to the real urgent care at a hospital
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Some plastics are very caustic when burned. You probably have an infection. I would expect them to give you something to help drain the fluid and open you airways.

Lungs heal pretty fast, I once burned my lungs with some chlorine gas. I had breathing issues for months after that.
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well, that was immensely disappointing. doc said nothing was wrong with my lungs as far as listening to them and chest xray showed. told me to get a regular doctor at a clinic and get more tests done that the ER cant do. so, it was no help. now i am almost for sure going to lose my job AND my apartment. isnt life wonderful for everyone lately? just found out since my aunt lived 8 years longer than they expected, shes going to run out of money in 2 years, and thats if she doesnt pay the $11,500 a month she owes for her meds.


ill explain my crappy visit to the ER in detail, in order of events.
-Get ride to ER in case i need to stay over night
-Go to ER, fill out papers, get BP done, o2 levels checked, then wait for doc
-go to little room and wait for doc some more
-nurse listens to my breathing
-doc listens to my breathing
-nurse puts me on a nebulizer to see if it would help (made me cough more)
-same nurse listens to my breathing
-completely new nurse takes me for a chest xray
-doc comes back saying nothing is wrong with me as far as they can figure out in the ER
-i sign the paperwork, they send me home saying i need to call up these rinky dink clinics and get assigned a doctor, and then have them do more tests that the ER for some reason or another couldnt do....


everyone i have talked to said they should have, at LEAST, done bloodwork, and my aunt said they should have done a CT. i have no idea, im not a doctor. i DO know, however, that after coming home from the doctor, my cough is MUCH MUCH worse. you know how people say they are coughing up a lung in order to exaggerate for effect? well, my i cough now it ACTUALLY feels like im coughing up a lung. so im screwed.

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Tommy Chong treats this with more smoke. But seriously go to hospital if you think you have carbon poisining.
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Originally posted by Australian:

Tommy Chong treats this with more smoke. But seriously go to hospital if you think you have carbon poisining.


like i said i went to the hospital. i explained in detail what happened and they still pretty much just rushed me out and told me to arrange to get a doctor of my own and have them do more tests. no insurance means they dont give a damn about me
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like i said i went to the hospital. i explained in detail what happened and they still pretty much just rushed me out and told me to arrange to get a doctor of my own and have them do more tests. no insurance means they dont give a damn about me

Umm ...no.

 
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... the free clinic i needed to get to by 8am but ...i was too drowsy to drive. once i wake up more im going to try to go to the real urgent emergency room care at a hospital


 
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ill explain my crappy visit to the ER in detail, in order of events.
-doc comes back saying nothing is wrong with me as far as they can figure out in the ER
-i sign the paperwork, they send me home saying i need to call up these rinky dink clinics and get assigned a doctor, and then have them do more tests that the ER for some reason or another couldnt do....


How do you figure that because you have no insurance that the hospital emergency room does not give a damn about you or your condition ? They treated you and determined there was no emergency. Do you really expect that an emergency room, which deals with emergencies, should be equipped to do all sorts of further investigative tests ? Do you think they have the time to do that ?
Sounds like you think poor planning on your part should create am emergency on their part.
Is your passenger experiencing the same thing ?
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Report this Post06-20-2011 09:24 AM Click Here to See the Profile for faaaaqSend a Private Message to faaaaqDirect Link to This Post
 
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How do you figure that because you have no insurance that the hospital emergency room does not give a damn about you or your condition ? They treated you and determined there was no emergency. Do you really expect that an emergency room, which deals with emergencies, should be equipped to do all sorts of further investigative tests ? Do you think they have the time to do that ?
Sounds like you think poor planning on your part should create am emergency on their part.
Is your passenger experiencing the same thing ?


poor planning on my part? how the **** do you figure that? and when the hell did i say anything about "all sorts" of other tests? they did ONE test. they did NOT treat me. they could have easily done bloodwork and/or a CT scan at the very least. and yes they had time, the nurses were arguing over who got to be on my case because everyone had nothing to do. i told them i was light headed, have trouble breathing, uncontrollable coughing fits, chest pains, etc and their answer was basically "go find people who will treat you without insurance." so yes, they dont give a damn because i dont have insurance.

if i hadnt made this thread seeking actual help, it would be different, but since you offer ZERO help or kind works, kindly dont post again. im going to be homeless, friendless, unemployed, AND wont be able to breath soon, so excuse me if im being a dick.
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Try the UW-Hospital system. They might use you as a teaching case.
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....so excuse me if im being a dick.


You are, but I'll absolutely excuse it. The upshot of your ER visit was: "You're not going to die from this. Today." That, unfortuately, is ALL ER's can do any more. Insurance or no.

Off topic for a moment. My 12 YO daughter fell and broke her wrist on a Friday evening. We take her to the ER.
Them "Yep! It's Busted! Splint it and you can take her home."
Us: "Aren't you going to set it and put a cast on?"
Them: "Call your Orthopedist Monday morning. He'll fix it."
And I had GREAT insurance at the time! So, its NOT because you have no insurance. It's because they're an Emergency Room. And you're not dying. Today.

So, back you you. I don't have any advice you haven't heard, or figured out, already. I wish I did. You've also figured out that you probably should have just let the *hitbox BURN! I know you probably didn't have insurance on that either, but between your lungs, and your car, its easier to buy, beg, or borrow a car than a set of lungs.

I know, I know. I woulda tried to save the car, too.
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Couldn't find much.

http://firstaid.webmd.com/s...inhalation-treatment

Not real helpful.

My first thought would be eat detoxifying foods and drink alot of water is about all you can do at home. I don't really have knowledge on smoke inhalation though.

http://www.globalhealingcen...that-detox-the-body/
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Breathing oxygen is about the only thing I have been able to find for recovering from smoke inhalation....
Like 2.5 suggested, detoxifying stuff probably wouldn't hurt either. Green Tea is supposed to be able to get alot of crap out of your system, probably worth a try..
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i didnt really read the replies here, but i was caught in a building fire years ago, i was told to breath over a bowl of hot water steam with a towel or something coving your head 2x a day for like 20minutes each, they said something about the water would entrap certain chemicals or whatever and you would naturally caught them up, or breath them right back out...

idk if it worked or whatever but i did it for like a week..
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poor planning on my part? how the **** do you figure that? and when the hell did i say anything about "all sorts" of other tests? they did ONE test. they did NOT treat me. they could have easily done bloodwork and/or a CT scan at the very least. and yes they had time, the nurses were arguing over who got to be on my case because everyone had nothing to do. i told them i was light headed, have trouble breathing, uncontrollable coughing fits, chest pains, etc and their answer was basically "go find people who will treat you without insurance." so yes, they dont give a damn because i dont have insurance.

if i hadnt made this thread seeking actual help, it would be different, but since you offer ZERO help or kind works, kindly dont post again. im going to be homeless, friendless, unemployed, AND wont be able to breath soon, so excuse me if im being a dick.


Try not to be too discouraged. I know that's easy for me to say, but being positive might help (it can't hurt, at least.) I'm not sure why you would be fired from your job over a legitimate medical injury. Have you looked into FMLA or short term disability? If they fire you because you were in a car fire and can't do your job, you might be able to at least draw unemployment, or maybe even try to take them to court. (Not suggesting that route, but it might be all you're left with.)

As for the apartment, if you are fired there has to be a way to get a stay of eviction for something like this. There are moochers all over the place that beat the system, so a legitimate need (as this seems to be) might warrant some short term help.

You did the right thing by going to the ER. They are right - schedule an appt with a clinic that takes people with no insurance and see them ASAP. Also, presenting your ER bill receipt and/or paperwork to your place of employment might help your cause there.
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poor planning on my part? how the **** do you figure that? and when the hell did i say anything about "all sorts" of other tests? they did ONE test. they did NOT treat me. they could have easily done bloodwork and/or a CT scan at the very least. and yes they had time, the nurses were arguing over who got to be on my case because everyone had nothing to do. i told them i was light headed, have trouble breathing, uncontrollable coughing fits, chest pains, etc and their answer was basically "go find people who will treat you without insurance." so yes, they dont give a damn because i dont have insurance.

if i hadnt made this thread seeking actual help, it would be different, but since you offer ZERO help or kind works, kindly dont post again. im going to be homeless, friendless, unemployed, AND wont be able to breath soon, so excuse me if im being a dick.


Yeah, that sounds about right... it isn't about "no insurance"... the fact is they are there for emergencies and you were determined to not be one. Sorry. Do you have other options to see someone at a clinic? Did this happen in your car (I can't remember), if so, contact your insurance agent about medical coverage.
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Originally posted by faaaaq:
... but since you offer ZERO help or kind works, kindly dont post again.

Like that's gonna happen, .
Zero help ? What's the matter ? You don't want to take your blinders off ?
 
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Originally posted by faaaaq:
... poor planning on my part? how the faaaaq do you figure that?

How the faaaaq do you figure otherwise ?
 
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Originally posted by faaaaq:
... i needed to get to by 8am but i havent been able to sleep, so when 7/8 came around i was too drowsy to drive.

What time do you need to be at work ? How do you manage that ? I bet it takes planning.
 
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... once i wake up more im going to try to go to the real urgent care at a hospital

Should have went to the free clinic anyways. They are open all day long and some longer.
 
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Originally posted by faaaaq:
... and when the hell did i say anything about "all sorts" of other tests?

, right here :
 
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Originally posted by faaaaq:
... they send me home saying i need to call up these rinky dink clinics and get assigned a doctor, and then have them do more tests that the ER for some reason or another couldnt do....

You need more tests, Joe Smith needs more different kind of tests, Mary, she's pregnant. Her and her baby need yet still different tests. You actually expect the Emergency Room to be able to perform every kind of test in the world ? That is not their job. Does an alignment shop do tune ups ? Emergency roadside service just gets you off the road to a safer place.
 
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Originally posted by faaaaq:
... they did ONE test. they did NOT treat me.

Treatment includes the tests necessary to complete their services. They did treat you.
 
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Originally posted by faaaaq:
... they could have easily done bloodwork and/or a CT scan at the very least.

Sounds like you have a medical malpractice lawsuit. You don't need a job, . Were you willing to wait three to five days at the Emergency Room till the blood work results came back ? Why would you need a CT scan ? Maybe you should have gotten an upper body cast as well.
 
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... their answer was basically "go find people who will treat you without insurance." so yes, they dont give a damn because i dont have insurance.

Believe what you want. They would have told me the same thing, having insurance. Their "mission statement" is not to be a "general practitioner".
 
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... the nurses were arguing over who got to be on my case because everyone had nothing to do.

Believe what you want but don't flatter yourself. My daughter is a nurse. My lifelong friend is a Respiratory Therapist (right up your ailment's alley) who has nurses assist him. They never have nothing to do. Most, if not all, are overworked. Neither do ditch diggers volunteer to dig an extra ditch if they are not already digging one, .
 
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... if i hadnt made this thread seeking actual help, it would be different, but since you offer ZERO help or kind words ...

I replied second with information and help. You want kind words too ? Okay.
"It will be alright. This too will pass. There will be better days. What don't kill you will make you stronger."
 
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Originally posted by faaaaq:
... im going to be homeless, friendless, unemployed, AND wont be able to breath soon...

Is that an invitation to your pity party ? Why would you be friendless ?
 
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... excuse me if im being a dick.

Oh, now I see. Being a dick will make you friendless.
I have to say, there above, quoted, is a prime example of your problem. Making excuses.
I don't care if you are a dick. I don't need to excuse you. That is your problem. Maybe the Emergency Room could have should have given you a penile amputation, .

Do you feel like people are always yanking your chain ?
There are tests for that, .

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i didnt really read the replies here, but i was caught in a building fire years ago, i was told to breath over a bowl of hot water steam with a towel or something coving your head 2x a day for like 20minutes each, they said something about the water would entrap certain chemicals or whatever and you would naturally caught them up, or breath them right back out...

idk if it worked or whatever but i did it for like a week..



This also sounds like good advice.
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