Guy caught his neighbor stealing his snow shovel on his security camera....revenge is sweet, lol.

http://aquapour.com/steal-s...ower-revenge/555939/

Nice.

Sweet, when we used to live in the city it was a dog eat dog world. You shovel out your car and as soon as you left someone else would steal your parking space. Even if they lived down the street they would use your space rather than shovel out their own space in frt. of their house.

We used to put a couple of chairs in our space in frt of our apartment house. As many other people did. We respected others space markers so to speak. Others did not.

Many a time I would shovel out my car and head to work night at GM. When I got home my space was filled by someone else, sometimes the person in another apartment in our house.

I told him not to do that, shovel his own space out. He not so politely told me to Go fk myself.

So next time that happened I unscrewed the valve stem on one of his tires. He got pissed and yelled at me. I told him not to steal my space again.

Next storm same thing.

I loosened the valve stem on 2 of his tires.

He yelled at me again and I told him if he did it again I would let the air out of all of his tires next time.

He got pissed and threatened to knock my lights out.

He never did park in a space I shoveled out again.

Steve

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and one big pain in the ass when it doesn't.
Detroit iron rules all the rest are just toys.

I'm afraid covering her car/front porch/driveway in snow would be my new hobby.... lol... thats awesome

=todd=

quote Originally posted by 84fiero123: You shovel out your car and as soon as you left someone else would steal your parking space. Even if they lived down the street they would use your space rather than shovel out their own space in frt. of their house. We used to put a couple of chairs in our space in frt of our apartment house. As many other people did. We respected others space markers so to speak. Others did not. Many a time I would shovel out my car and head to work night at GM. When I got home my space was filled by someone else, sometimes the person in another apartment in our house. I told him not to do that, shovel his own space out. He not so politely told me to Go fk myself. Steve

Reserving your space after you shoveled it out is a common practice in Chicago. Heaven help the guy that decides to steal it. You can very quickly become a "statistic" that way. Even the Chicago cops tend to downplay, shall we say, extreme responses.

In the words of Richard Pryor, "You order S#!t, you EAT S#!t !!"

I just Love it LOL .....That was great...

When I lived in Jersey I had to park my truck on the street and everytime I went to work Id come home and some lazy a$$ would be in my spot..Welll when I had to get a new(old) truck I got a 4WD beater Dodge..But,that baby could climb ..All I did was shovel inside the parking spot and would Jump Over the snow the same when I got home

No one else Could get in my spot That worked

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Awesome.

When I lived in an apartment, I used to park my motorcycle sideways in front of my car, in the parking space in front of my apartment. The spaces were facing the apartments.The downstairs neighbor thought she could park her car there. I left a simple note on her car explaining that I would hold her responsible for any damages I find on my motorcycle from her parking there. She never parked there again.

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I know this isn't not going to go over well, and I hate being that guy, but shouldn't he have just gone over and confronted her with the evidence, or called the cops with the evidence?
Wasn't what he did against the law?
And wrong?
Do two wrongs now make a right?
Is this what we want to teach our kids?

I hate being this guy.

quote Originally posted by Boondawg: I know this isn't not going to go over well, and I hate being that guy, but shouldn't he have just gone over and confronted her with the evidence, or called the cops with the evidence? Wasn't what he did against the law? And wrong? Do two wrongs now make a right? Is this what we want to teach our kids? I hate being this guy.

Technically, it was probably illegal, but there's legal and there's right. What he did was right.

The only thing he did wrong was to record his actions

quote Originally posted by BigGuyTinyCar: Technically, it was probably illegal, but there's legal and there's right. What he did was right.

RIght on. It's illegal for a 63 year old man to put a marker in the street to save his parking space that he may have spent an hour shoveling, it is not illegal for some punk to throw the old man's chair on his lawn and take his space.
Chicago is being overrun by assholes who think marking your space is a "White trash move", but see nothing wrong with taking a space that someone else sweat to dig out.
I only wish this guy buried her car a little more, it only took her 30-40 minutes to dig it out.

quote Originally posted by Scottzilla79: I only wish this guy buried her car a little more, it only took her 30-40 minutes to dig it out.

But if she had a heart attack becouse of it, would he be culpable in any way?
Just saying.....

I don't know that what he did was illegal. It was funny though. She is a low life thief. I have no use for people like that. If she'd had a heart attack I wouldn't be bothered by it. I hate to be this guy.

quote Originally posted by ls3mach: I hate to be this guy.

Come on, now.

If he called the cops....and even showed the evidence, what would they do for stealing a $4 shovel. She have prob smiled in his face. Here anyway, you can get a hefty fine for NOT clearing your sidewalk. All he did was clean all the snow off his as city law requires. She parked in front of his house at her own risk. Cities plow roads and bury cars at the curbs all the time. I dont think anyones won a law suit against any city yet. I might have even hooked up a garden hose to spray it down afterward so it would be a block of ice.

Just so there is less clicking involved to get to the video.

Brad

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I just put the link on because some like to read the whole article too.

quote Originally posted by rogergarrison: If he called the cops....and even showed the evidence, what would they do for stealing a $4 shovel. She have prob smiled in his face. Here anyway, you can get a hefty fine for NOT clearing your sidewalk. All he did was clean all the snow off his as city law requires. She parked in front of his house at her own risk. Cities plow roads and bury cars at the curbs all the time. I dont think anyones won a law suit against any city yet. I might have even hooked up a garden hose to spray it down afterward so it would be a block of ice.

But you got my point?
Are we ok with others deciding when it is OK to take the law into their own hands?
Teach it to our children?

I sometimes wonder what planet i'm on when people say their is no gray area when it comes to right & wrong and then condone wrong as right when it suits them.
There is a word for it, but I can't remember what it is.

BATAVIA, Ohio - A man who neighbors say was devoted to his meticulously kept lawn was charged with murder in the shooting of a 15-year-old boy who apparently walked across his yard.
Larry Mugrage, whose family lived next door, was shot in the chest with a shotgun. The high school freshman was pronounced dead at a hospital.
Martin, 66, allegedly told police he had several times had problems with neighbors walking on his lawn.
Neighbors said Martin lived alone quietly, often sitting in front of his one-story home with its neat lawn, well-trimmed shrubbery and flag pole with U.S. and Navy flags flying.

That guy also decided what was appropiate when wronged.

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quote Originally posted by Boondawg: Are we ok with others deciding when it is OK to take the law into their own hands?

No. People are only ok with deciding themsevles when it's OK to take the law into their own hands.

Several hours of digging out. Yeah she "earned" that shovel, hehe. What's up with the dog wanting to poop at his house? Its like she told the dog where to poop. As for the guy-he should've written in snow on her car, " steal shovel =you dig" and leave the bag of poop on top of the car.

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quote Originally posted by Boondawg: I hate being this guy.

quote Originally posted by Boondawg: But if she had a heart attack becouse of it, would he be culpable in any way? Just saying.....

quote Originally posted by Boondawg: An eye for an eye? If the store shortchanges me, can I rob it? After all, they stole from me. Just saying.................

Mr. Boondawg I think you love being this guy.

quote Originally posted by Scottzilla79: Mr. Boondawg I think you love being this guy.

No, I hate being the guy to point out something that seems so simple.
There is either rule of law or not.
You can't just claim it when it suits you.

And I am by no way saying I come from a stand of honorable perfection.
I am maybe the most honor-flawed person on the planet.
But I don't claim anything else.

If someone steals from you, you call the law.
What you don't do is break the law in return.
The reason?
Becouse people escalate the act.

A kid walks across a guys lawn.
The guy kills him.
Well, the kid WAS trespassing.
But lets say the guy just sprayed the kid with a hose.
Then the kid comes back at night and eggs the guys house.
The guy shoots the kid has an intruder.
The very same result.
Escalation never solves anything.

But call the law, a restraining order is issued, it is broken, the kid goes to jail.

A shovel is stolen, it is taped, the tape goes to the cop, the cop charges the person, the person pays.
If the person retaliates, a restraining order is bla bla bla...........

The law is there for a reason.
If your kid is goofing off, you want the law called, not him shot dead by someone who was going to "teach a lesson".

Felling like I have to remind what I think of as rational people of that again & again & again is the guy I HATE being, mainly becouse if someone as stupid as me can see it, I fear that the problem is NOT that others don't see it, but that they purposly only apply these very simple rules to OTHER people.
That possability is heartbreaking to me, that seemingly honorable people really arn't that at all.

I really could care less about the choices bad people make, as I am FAR more interested in the choices good people make.

But whatever.
I get so depressed defending "doing the right thing" when I am the LAST person that should be doing so.
There are FAR more honorable people here that should be doing it instead of me.
Why it is left to the worst of us i'll never understand.

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Boonie,
What law did the guy break? Obviously, we know she stole his property but, what law did he break?

You're assuming he broke the law, did he?

Yes, he obviously got revenge and while doing it, he also cleared the sidewalk of snow in front of his property. In some cities, that is a legal requirement for property owners. Not sure about the city in question. You assume he broke the law but did he.

Vigilante justice is not legal or right but, you haven't convinced me he is guilty of breaking any laws.

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quote Originally posted by blackrams: Vigilante justice is not legal or right but, you haven't convinced me he is guilty of breaking any laws.

Granted, but I think we both know what I mean.
I gotta' believe if littering is against the law.........well, who knows.

I would hope if a person was burying my car with something I would have legal recourse.
I can't believe the law is "do whatever you want to stop them".
I believe it's "Call the police on them, let the law handle it".

My bet is they would stop them, and even arrest them if they did not stop.
So there must be SOME law against it.

Hey, I know, someone start shoveling snow onto a cop car and tell me what happens.

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So the city requires the guy to clear his sidewalk, doesn't matter that none of his neighbors are so inclined, he clears his as the laws require, where's he supposed to put his snow removal byproduct? He does what the city does, he piles in in the street against the vehicles parked there. Don't get me wrong, I understand where you're coming from but, you still haven't convinced me he broke any laws.

OK, so instead of his actions, let's say he called the police about his stolen snow shovel. What do you think would happen then? My bet is very little, he might get his snow shovel back but, I'll bet that she would not be arrested. He's now got a neighbor with an attitude.

Prove to me he broke the law and I'll agree with you, until then I'll just enjoy the video.

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Car is on the street, if it got plowed in, nobody could call the cops on the street department. Its public property, it did not damage her vehicle, I really dont care what "doing the right thing" demands.. she should have thought about doing the right thing first,and she wouldn't have froze her butt off uncovering her car.

I am just like this guy... my neighbor was throwing trash in my yard, I called the cops.. they "talked" to him, but he still continued to throw trash over my fence and my dogs were eating it. So I dumped a bag of it right on his doorstep. No more problems.

I agree with Rodger, she's lucky he didnt get out the hose and spritz her car down. We used to do that on our sled hills.. it was awesome.

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quote Originally posted by blackrams: Prove to me he broke the law and I'll agree with you, until then I'll just enjoy the video.

I cannot.
Nor am I sure I want to know that he handled it exactly as a civilized society would have it handled.
Becouse then what would I be required to tell my kids about conflict resolution in that society?

I gracefully yield, as I think I already know the answer.

quote Originally posted by Boondawg: I cannot. Nor am I sure I want to know that he handled it exactly as a civilized society would have it handled. Becouse then what would I be required to tell my kids about conflict resolution in that society? I gracefully yield, as I think I already know the answer.

Boonie,
I'm not sure what world you live in but, this is only a semi-civilized society, if it were a civilized society, she would not have stolen his shovel and there would be no need for conflict resolution. When you move to Utopia, please send me your address so that I can move in next to you. BTW, I promise to not steal you snow shovel.

Edited: I can't promise Jake won't poo in your yard though, he does that from time to time. Might have to borrow your shovel then, he's got some big poo.

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quote Originally posted by blackrams: BTW, I promise to not steal you snow shovel. Edited: I can't promise Jake won't poo in your yard though, he does that from time to time.

Nor I yours, and my dog is also quite free & easy.

This happened in Chicago and there is no law that I ever heard of about shoveling snow into the street or even onto a car but the city does in fact ASK the residents to please shovel snow onto the parkway so as not to dump it in the street. That being said, the guy was being a dick, but he seemed to think so himself, referring to himself as passive aggressive.

I think the woman should have gotten another shovel- to the face. She got off easy.

quote Originally posted by Boondawg: And that don't seem like strange logic to you?

Nope. She could not be bothered to NOT STEAL, so the guy just gave her more of what he had. Its a biblical attitude.. see the "sermon on the mount" in Matthew about someone stealing your shirt and what you should do. So she stole, and he decided to give her more. And what he had was a lot of snow.. she wants his stuff, she got his stuff.

He should have returned the dog-poo as well.

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I am not sure about there, but here it is illegal to put your driveway/sidewalk snow onto the road. But people around here don't clean their sidewalks anyway.

She got the best end of the deal IMHO. Instead of a theft charge and a criminal record, she just got a medium workout.

To the purists: This is not a perfect world. The best one can strive for is to be civil (the first part of the word "civilized" I'll point out) and seek to make the world a better place for everyone, not just one's self.

The theft victim's solution to the problem was creative and, since dealing with snow is a normal part of life there, fairly harmless. It saved government resources by not escalating it to an actual criminal charge, and hopefully taught the thief a lesson she won't soon forget. The downside is that there's a risk of retaliation from the woman who may be one of those uncivilized types that can't control their negative impulses. Given his profession and equipment, hopefully she's got enough intelligence to realize that would be a...mistake.

The law, has ALWAYS been in our own hands--and I hope that never changes.
The day we admit that is no longer true, is the day we have to admit we have chosen tyranny.

quote Originally posted by Boondawg: No, I hate being the guy to point out something that seems so simple.

You're comparing blowing snow onto a car with murdering a teenage kid. Im just gessing here, but Im gonna bet you're not a republican and leave it at that, just based on the use of logical fallicies.

... I have a strong suspicion I just doomed this thread.

quote Originally posted by 86GT3.4DOHC: You're comparing blowing snow onto a car with murdering a teenage kid. Im just gessing here, but Im gonna bet you're not a republican and leave it at that, just based on the use of logical fallicies. ... I have a strong suspicion I just doomed this thread.

Did you just out me?!

I am not comparing the two.
I am showing both ends of the spectrum of when the individual decides what level of proper "punishment" he will dish out for being wronged.
And the very short distance between the two ends when decided without a system of law.
It is not up to the individual to dish out punishment, it is up to the court system, our system, as a whole.

P.S. And although a persons personal political beliefs should have absolutly nothing to do with the validity of that persons opinion on any given subject, I will say that I am of no political designation or descriptive direction, ie. (left, right, center, far _______, etc.)

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Yes, that is-- what you say.