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California, a failed experiment in Socialism by blackrams
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Schwarzenegger Cuts California State Workers' Pay to Minimum Wage
http://www.politicsdaily.co...-pay-to-minimum-wag/

A California appeals court Friday upheld Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's decision to reduce some state workers' pay to the federal minimum wage until a budget is passed, but the official in charge of paychecks said he won't comply with the order.

The ruling by the 3rd District Court of Appeals comes a day after the governor ordered the pay of nearly 200,000 state employees to be reduced to $7.25 an hour for the month of July, The Los Angeles Times reported.

The court said the governor has "the authority to direct the Controller to defer salary payments...due to a budget impasse."

State Controller John Chiang, who control's California's checkbook, said Thursday he would defy Schwarzenegger's order. Chiang did not comment on the court decision Friday.

Under the governor's order, hourly workers would get minimum wage and managers who work on salary would have their pay reduced to $455 a week.

The state's Department of Personnel Administration said other employees who are not federally protected by minimum wage requirements, such as some of the state's doctors and lawyers, will go without pay for the month, according to Politico.

California's 2010-2011 fiscal year began Thursday with no budget in place and with the state facing an enormous deficit.

"We need to get a budget quickly. The longer we go without a budget, the longer state workers will be faced with minimum wage, furloughs and layoffs," Schwarzenegger's spokesman Aaron McLear told Politico. "That's why it is so important for the legislature to get us a budget as quickly a possibly. If we get a budget this all goes away."
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The court says the Governor has the authority and the Controller defies the instructions. And some folks wonder why California is in such a financial mess.

This is almost as good of some of the day time soap operas my wife used to watch. It would be funny if I didn't think we're gonna have to bail them out also.

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The only way to get things done is to pay those in office minimum wages. However, someone already started a thread on CA issues here; //www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum6/HTML/075911.html

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Originally posted by madcurl:

The only way to get things done is to pay those in office minimum wages. However, someone already started a thread on CA issues here; //www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum6/HTML/075911.html



I had not seen that thread, thanks for pointing it out.

Cliff, feel free to delete this thread.

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This thread is better laid out with more information critical to discussion.

The terminator is widely considered a failure but I have always liked him for the most part.
He has a great record of going after the real problems as far as our money goes. From what I have seen he ends up being a lame duck because everybody want things fixed unless they are part of the problem. In California our whole ****ing state is part of the problem so there is no way in hell any Gov is going to actually fix anything.

In California being elected to the position of Governor is truly a misnomer. It should be named the Fallguy. We should vote for Lee Majors next time.
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Man, this is awesome. I would watch this on TV if I could get a play by play.

Where's the popcorn? I love seeing liberals eating their own sh1t sandwiches...

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Man, this is awesome. I would watch this on TV if I could get a play by play.

Where's the popcorn? I love seeing liberals eating their own sh1t sandwiches...



I wonder how much of this country we will take down with us and how fast.

This once awesome state has been held hostage by the smart kids for a long time.
Them dem smart kids is losin all their houses and their credit cards is a bouncin.
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Too bad we can't do this will all government employees. How many realize our nation has been running with no federal budget for months now?
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Too bad we can't do this will all government employees. How many realize our nation has been running with no federal budget for months now?



Well... not ALL government employees. Remember, defenese, military, intelligence, etc... are also government employees.

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Schwarzenegger Cuts California State Workers' Pay to Minimum Wage
http://www.politicsdaily.co...-pay-to-minimum-wag/

A California appeals court Friday upheld Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's decision to reduce some state workers' pay to the federal minimum wage until a budget is passed, but the official in charge of paychecks said he won't comply with the order.

The ruling by the 3rd District Court of Appeals comes a day after the governor ordered the pay of nearly 200,000 state employees to be reduced to $7.25 an hour for the month of July, The Los Angeles Times reported.

The court said the governor has "the authority to direct the Controller to defer salary payments...due to a budget impasse."

State Controller John Chiang, who control's California's checkbook, said Thursday he would defy Schwarzenegger's order. Chiang did not comment on the court decision Friday.

Under the governor's order, hourly workers would get minimum wage and managers who work on salary would have their pay reduced to $455 a week.

The state's Department of Personnel Administration said other employees who are not federally protected by minimum wage requirements, such as some of the state's doctors and lawyers, will go without pay for the month, according to Politico.

California's 2010-2011 fiscal year began Thursday with no budget in place and with the state facing an enormous deficit.

"We need to get a budget quickly. The longer we go without a budget, the longer state workers will be faced with minimum wage, furloughs and layoffs," Schwarzenegger's spokesman Aaron McLear told Politico. "That's why it is so important for the legislature to get us a budget as quickly a possibly. If we get a budget this all goes away."
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The court says the Governor has the authority and the Controller defies the instructions. And some folks wonder why California is in such a financial mess.

This is almost as good of some of the day time soap operas my wife used to watch. It would be funny if I didn't think we're gonna have to bail them out also.

Ron


Cuz that's exactly what I want as a state employee, my Dr not getting paid...
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And the revolution starts in.....9.....8......7.....6....5.....4.....

I always thought it would be the south rising up...never figured la-la land would be the place.
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Going to be selling California cheap pretty soon here. Might be a great time to buy a piece of California.

Already the price of kids is hitting ROCK bottom.
http://news.sky.com/skynews...cle/201006415654825?

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Police traced the car to an apartment block where they reportedly found the couple high on methamphetamine and the baby living in squalor.

http://news.sky.com/skynews...cle/201006415654825?


Unfortunately, Meth is not just a California problem. It may have originated in CA, I don't know but it has quickly spread.

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I had not seen that thread, thanks for pointing it out.

Cliff, feel free to delete this thread.

Ron


Please do not delete the thread. there is good discussion here about very important issues.
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I have the solution; succeed Ca, to Mexico. Then everyone can sneek across the Eastern boarder with the U.S. get benies like medical care free like any other illegal alien, not pay taxes and return home to Ca. whenever they want.

Honestly, is there a solution?
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OK so someone enlighten me. Is the State Controller in CA elected? Does he have a boss? If so, someone might want to inform him that the judicial system has ruled that the governor does have the authority. What's the penality for failling to follow the court's instructions?

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OK so someone enlighten me. Is the State Controller in CA elected? Does he have a boss? If so, someone might want to inform him that the judicial system has ruled that the governor does have the authority. What's the penality for failling to follow the court's instructions?

Ron


I believe it is an elected position. Failing to follow a court order sounds like arrest and jail time to me. But this is a political issue and politicians get away with most crimes they commit.
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I have the solution; succeed Ca, to Mexico. Then everyone can sneek across the Eastern boarder with the U.S. get benies like medical care free like any other illegal alien, not pay taxes and return home to Ca. whenever they want.

Honestly, is there a solution?


LA is 75% Hispanic, along with the mayor.
Sell Mexico the lower half, just below Santa Barbara. Throw in Frisco also.
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Throw in Frisco also.


I sure hope you meant Fresno BUB!

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Where's the popcorn? I love seeing liberals eating their own sh1t sandwiches...



The problem is, the liberals never ADMIT it's a s*** sandwich...of their OWN making.

Yes, the state controller is elected.

Just think, in 6 months, we might have Jerry f'ing Brown AGAIN. Just what we need, another ultra-liberal governor. The majority in this state are insane.
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Schwarzenegger Cuts California State Workers' Pay to Minimum Wage
http://www.politicsdaily.co...-pay-to-minimum-wag/

A California appeals court Friday upheld Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's decision to reduce some state workers' pay to the federal minimum wage until a budget is passed, but the official in charge of paychecks said he won't comply with the order.


Ron


It is bad that we get furloughs, 3 days forced off of work per month (but we cant even take the forced days off, we still have to come to work unpaid) which comes to 15% pay cut but what is REALLY jacked up is that not all state workers get them. I guess that the state is in such dire need to save money that they can afford to only furlough "some" workers.
NOW we have minimum wage to save money or prevent further financial woes BUT since the state does not need to save that much money, they AGAIN chose to pay some workers full pay and others minimum?

This kind of stuff is whats gets me. Honestly I understand that the state is in bad financial condition and I will take my lumps like I have been for the last 18 months of furloughs, but the hypocrisy of only some of the workers bearing the brunt of the "money saving strategy" is just wrong. If a state worker gets a furlough or minimum wage, they should ALL get the same treatment.

Has anybody ever wondered if welfare or ANY other social handout programs took a 15% pay cut like the workers have?

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It is bad that we get furloughs, 3 days forced off of work per month (but we cant even take the forced days off, we still have to come to work unpaid) which comes to 15% pay cut but what is REALLY jacked up is that not all state workers get them. I guess that the state is in such dire need to save money that they can afford to only furlough "some" workers.
NOW we have minimum wage to save money or prevent further financial woes BUT since the state does not need to save that much money, they AGAIN chose to pay some workers full pay and others minimum?

This kind of stuff is whats gets me. Honestly I understand that the state is in bad financial condition and I will take my lumps like I have been for the last 18 months of furloughs, but the hypocrisy of only some of the workers bearing the brunt of the "money saving strategy" is just wrong. If a state worker gets a furlough or minimum wage, they should ALL get the same treatment.

Has anybody ever wondered if welfare or ANY other social handout programs took a 15% pay cut like the workers have?



Rick, if it's any consolation, be thankful you have a steady, full-time job. Things are bad, and there's not much hope they'll get better any time soon. Yeah, pay cuts suck, but a job is a really good thing to have right now. Hang in there.
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this is what I never understood about the liberal mind set. I work for lowes...when corporate has a new idea they want to try they'll put it in say 10 stores and see how it goes. If it doesn't work they kill it and move on. The liberals try out all there wonderful idea's and when they bankrupt a state they say Let's do it nationally!! lol..It's that lack of common sense that just amazes me
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Originally posted by blackrams:
This is almost as good of some of the day time soap operas my wife used to watch.

 
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Man, this is awesome. I would watch this on TV if I could get a play by play.
Where's the popcorn? I love seeing liberals eating their own sh1t sandwiches...

Agreed. It is also playing out on other channels in other states to some degree. New York, New Jersey, Connetticut, among most others liberal bastions.
 
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Has anybody ever wondered if welfare or ANY other social handout programs took a 15% pay cut like the workers have?

Good point. At least the toughening of eligibility of such social justice programs and state payments to sanctuary cities.
 
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It would be funny if I didn't think we're gonna have to bail them out also.

We have already started. These are the saved jobs the messiah talks about. The new war funding bill had more of the same monies attached to it.
 
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...when corporate has a new idea they want to try they'll put it in say 10 stores and see how it goes. If it doesn't work they kill it and move on. The liberals try out all there wonderful idea's and when they bankrupt a state they say Let's do it nationally!! lol..It's that lack of common sense that just amazes me

Excellent point also.
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I didn't know it before but tha gal that is probably going to be our next governor is the same woman that has ruined Ebay and chased of the sellers.

This doesn't bode well.
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I didn't know it before but tha gal that is probably going to be our next governor is the same woman that has ruined Ebay and chased of the sellers.

This doesn't bode well.


Well, I guess you folks need to ask yourself whether or not you want Brown again or give someone new a shot at it. Personally, I don't understand why anyone would want to be the governor of Kalifornia. It appears the people of Kalifronia aren't ready to do what needs to be done to save the state.

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Well, I guess you folks need to ask yourself whether or not you want Brown again or give someone new a shot at it. Personally, I don't understand why anyone would want to be the governor of Kalifornia. It appears the people of Kalifronia aren't ready to do what needs to be done to save the state.

Ron


I guess it is alright by me. If we go down I figure that just pulls one of the main legs out from under this table.
I can see 10,000 Starbucks vacant already. LOL

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Rick, if it's any consolation, be thankful you have a steady, full-time job. Things are bad, and there's not much hope they'll get better any time soon. Yeah, pay cuts suck, but a job is a really good thing to have right now. Hang in there.




I am VERY happy to have a job That is one of the reasons I have not complained about the furloughs that much. I am one of the pessimists that think it will get get worse.
I just feel the hypocrisy and crappy politicians of the the system is the worst part. They are truly out to say anything for a vote or to not offend anybody. Instead of just doing the right thing.

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I just feel the hypocrisy and crappy politicians of the the system is the worst part. They are truly out to say anything for a vote or to not offend anybody. Instead of just doing the right thing.

Not your fault I feel like puking. And kicking some azz.
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I didn't know it before but tha gal that is probably going to be our next governor is the same woman that has ruined Ebay and chased of the sellers.

This doesn't bode well.


I have been selling on there for quite some time and don't like where she took it, the fees are now as high as the buttheads at Amazon.
Brown will finish destroying the state.
The two choices are, "bad", and "no friggen way".
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Are you guys calling Meg and Arnold liberals?
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I am VERY happy to have a job That is one of the reasons I have not complained about the furloughs that much. I am one of the pessimists that think it will get get worse.
I just feel the hypocrisy and crappy politicians of the the system is the worst part. They are truly out to say anything for a vote or to not offend anybody. Instead of just doing the right thing.


I applaude your attitude and understand your frustration with the elected leaders. But, it's only going to get worse until the population as a majority accepts the fact that there are no free rides. Eventually, Kaliformia will run up against the wall and all government services will be not only out of money but in debt. I have to assume that at that point, the rest of the country or the feds will pull Kalifornia's ass out of the fire. Unfortunately, that also futher endangers the rest of the nation. A nation that can't afford to be bailing anyone out.

People must at some point accept that they are responsible for their own well being. No one owes Kalifornia or any other state a Garden of Eden. Kalifornia is not the only state in this predictiment. Most of the Liberal or Socially led states have very similar financial reports. Illinois recently showed up again as being sorely in debt with little chance of developing any income. Well folks, I gotta tell ya, when you don't have the golden goose, you can't eat the eggs. Tighten your belts folks, this ride ain't over.

Although I realize Term Limits aren't the complete and total answer, it's a good start. Career politicians need to be re-elected and therefore do what it takes to get there. Bring'n home the bacon has always been popular with us. That normally means fiscal irresponsibility. Sad but true, more so for Dems but Repubs are almost as guilty. You can't spend what you ain't got.

Ron

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Welcome to Maywood, Mexico...."Racist Pilgrims Go Home"

Welcome to Maywood , Mexico
by Roger Hedgecock
06/25/2010

Boasting a population that is 97% Hispanic, more than half foreign born, and 40% illegal, the Los Angeles County, Calif., incorporated
city of Maywood has achieved the Reconquista goal. It is now as lawless and chaotic as any place in Mexico . Maywood is a warning to every city and town in America .

The Maywood City Council announced this week that after years of radical policies, corruption and scandal, the city was broke and all
city employees would be laid off and essential city services contracted out to neighboring cities or to L.A. County government.

How did this happen? Until recently, Maywood was the model for "brown power" politics. Maywood was the first California city with an elected Hispanic City Council, one of the first "sanctuary" cities for illegal aliens, the first city to pass a resolution calling for a boycott of Arizona after
that state passed a law to enforce federal immigration laws, the first California city to order its police department not to enforce state laws requiring drivers to have licenses to drive, the first American city to call on Congress to grant amnesty to all illegals.

Council meetings were conducted in Spanish. Maywood was the leader in the peaceful, democratic achievement of the La Raza goal to take power in the U.S.

The City of Maywood started out quite differently. Back after World War II, Maywood was a booming blue-collar town with good jobs, a multi-ethnic suburb of Los Angeles.

On the 25th anniversary in 1949 of Maywood’s incorporation as a city, the town celebrated with a beard-growing contest, a rodeo, and wrestling matches in City Park. Chrysler operated an assembly plant there until 1971.

But the early 1970s saw these industrial jobs in aerospace, auto and furniture manufacturing, and food processing evaporate under the
pressure of higher taxes, increased local and state regulation, and the attraction of cheaper land and cheaper labor elsewhere.

The multi-ethnic Maywood of the post-war years was transformed in the ’80s and ’90s by wave after wave of Hispanic immigrants, many of them illegal.

In August 2006, a "Save Our State" anti-illegal immigration rally in Maywood drew hundreds of protesters—but a larger number of defenders of illegal immigration. The pro-illegal protesters carried signs which read "We are Indigenous! The ONLY owners of this Continent!" and "Racist Pilgrims Go Home" and "All Europeans are Illegal Here."

According to newspaper reports at the time, objectors to illegal aliens were subject to physical attacks. A 70-year-old man was "slashed," a
woman attacked, and cars vandalized. Pro-illegal demonstrators raised the Mexican flag at the U.S. Post Office.

The illegal population and their sympathizers became increasingly radicalized. Elections to the City Council saw "assimilationist" incumbent Hispanic council members ousted by La Raza supporting radical challengers.

For years, the Maywood City Council authorized police checkpoints to stop drunk driving. Drivers without licenses had their cars impounded. Illegals in California cannot get drivers licenses. By 2005, the number of such impounds were in the hundreds.

A community campaign was launched forcing the City Council to suspend the checkpoints. Cars were still being impounded whenever a police traffic-violation stop resulted in a driver without a license. Felipe Aguirre, a community activist with Comite Pro-Uno, an "immigration service center," coordinated a new campaign against any impounds. He was elected in 2005 to the City Council. He is the mayor of Maywood today.

Aguirre and a new majority of the council dismantled the Traffic Department. Illegals were given overnight-parking permits and impounds stopped. You didn't need a license to drive in Maywood. The Los Angeles Times wrote glowingly of this "progress" in a story.



Go to read THIS!
Zogby: 56% of all Mexicans would consider moving to the US if another amnesty is passed.


 
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Maywood, California, lays off all employees
Tami Luhby, senior writer, On Thursday July 1, 2010, 8:00 am EDT

Tiny Maywood, Calif., laid off every single one of its city employees on Wednesday.

But that doesn't mean the city is closing up shop. City Hall will still be open, as will Maywood's park and recreation center. Police will continue to patrol the streets.

They just won't be staffed by Maywood employees. The city can't have any staff because it can't get liability or worker's compensation insurance for them. Maywood's carrier, the California Joint Powers Insurance Authority, dropped it earlier this month in part because of several police-related claims.

Instead of declaring bankruptcy, Maywood officials decided to outsource all city functions. The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department will patrol the streets, while the neighboring city of Bell will cover other city functions, such as staffing City Hall.

Maywood already relies on contract workers and outsources many city services. The director of parks and recreation, for instance, is a contractor, and the city's lights, landscaping and street sweeping are handled by private companies. Los Angeles County maintains the library and fire department.

Some of Maywood's 96 employees -- which include 41 police officers -- will also continue as contract workers. Elected officials, such as the city council and the city clerk, will remain on the job in the 1.5-square-mile municipality, which has about 45,000 residents.

"Odds are residents will see the same faces as in years past, just under a different administrative process," said Magdalena Prado, the city's community relations director, who is a contract worker and is keeping her post.

Maywood is billing itself as the first American city to outsource all of its city services. In an odd twist, officials say it can provide even better services because the shift will help it save money and close a $450,000 shortfall in its $10 million general fund budget.

For instance, the contract with the sheriff's department costs about half of the more than $7 million spent annually to maintain the Maywood police department, Prado said. And patrols will be increased.

"Our community will continue to receive quality services," Mayor Ana Rosa Riso said in a statement. "Maywood's streets will continue to be swept, our summer park programs will continue to operate and our waste will be collected and hauled as scheduled."

Stressed cities

A growing number of cities are looking to contract out or share services regionally as the economic downturn takes its toll on municipal budgets.

"Everything is on the table," said Chris Hoene, research director at the National League of Cities. "The fiscal stress cities are feeling mean they are looking for alternative options to deliver services that cost less money."

Some 7 in 10 city officials said they are cutting personnel to balances their budgets, while another 68% are holding off on capital projects, according to a survey the league did in May. More than half of respondents say they will make to further slash city services next year if taxes or fees are not raised.

Not everyone is distressed by Maywood's unusual plan for providing city services. While Jesus Padilla feels sorry for the workers being affected, he thinks things might improve. He's made lots of calls to the county sheriff's department when he worked as a security guard and said officers always responded promptly.

"The council made the best decision it could," said Padilla, a local activist who has lived in Maywood for more than 30 years. "It's going to be good for the city and the citizens."

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California has two chances to avoid becoming Michigan, that other gret experiment in socialism that failed:

1) Dramatically cut the budget, disband literally dozens of government departments and initiatives desinged to keep govt employees busy doing....stuff and workers busy NOT working but help govt employees do their stuff.
2) reduce taxes across the board
3) return authority to school principals and local goverments and reduce the bureaucracy in Sacramento
4) tell the unions to f*** themselves and stop trying to do the job of govt except for the part about making a profit for themselves
5) Cut pension plans all-together and privatize the whole magilla, people are responsible for their OWN savings and welfare. Govts job is only to PROMOTE the general welfare, NOT provide it!
6) offer a 1 year tax deferment to any business that relocates to California
7) drill baby drill
and return prosperity, jobs, and the best education and lifestyle in the world to California once again.

OR

1) Make gambling legal
2) Make prostitution legal
3) Make pot and other narcotics legal
and tax it all to death and change NOTHING for the better but instead find even deeper vises to tax and increase crime, blight, and to deterioration of western civilization as a whole.


Hmmmm, with all the Democrats in control which way do you think we will go?

Yeah, that's a toughie
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Are you guys calling Meg and Arnold liberals?


I never even implied that. How could you even suggest it as no where is it even suggested.

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Obama will save ya!! He will send down mana from DC just as he did for Detroit!!
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I applaude your attitude and understand your frustration with the elected leaders. But, it's only going to get worse until the population as a majority accepts the fact that there are no free rides. Eventually, Kaliformia will run up against the wall and all government services will be not only out of money but in debt. I have to assume that at that point, the rest of the country or the feds will pull Kalifornia's ass out of the fire. Unfortunately, that also futher endangers the rest of the nation. A nation that can't afford to be bailing anyone out.

People must at some point accept that they are responsible for their own well being. No one owes Kalifornia or any other state a Garden of Eden. Kalifornia is not the only state in this predictiment. Most of the Liberal or Socially led states have very similar financial reports. Illinois recently showed up again as being sorely in debt with little chance of developing any income. Well folks, I gotta tell ya, when you don't have the golden goose, you can't eat the eggs. Tighten your belts folks, this ride ain't over.




I completely agree. I am a proud native of this great state, and have seen it be handed out piecemeal to non Californians, to the point that a real Californian has a difficult time getting ahead. But I wouldn't ask for a dime from te Federal government to fix things. If anything, I think we should follow Texas' lead and threaten to drop out of the Federal Government. California would have no problem remaining self sufficient using real native born Californians, as long as all of the non Californians were removed.

What I do disagree with is your apparently intentional mispelling of "Kalifornia". The word is properly spelled throughout the thread,so unless you are just willfully stupid, you are being intentionally disdainful and disrespectful to fellow American. Try growing up a little bit, you are to old to be trolling.
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I completely agree. I am a proud native of this great state, and have seen it be handed out piecemeal to non Californians, to the point that a real Californian has a difficult time getting ahead. But I wouldn't ask for a dime from te Federal government to fix things. If anything, I think we should follow Texas' lead and threaten to drop out of the Federal Government. California would have no problem remaining self sufficient using real native born Californians, as long as all of the non Californians were removed.

What I do disagree with is your apparently intentional mispelling of "Kalifornia". The word is properly spelled throughout the thread,so unless you are just willfully stupid, you are being intentionally disdainful and disrespectful to fellow American. Try growing up a little bit, you are to old to be trolling.


Well, that's an interesting perspective. I guess it depends on your definition of "native Kalifornian" as to who would be entitled to stick around. The intentional spelling of Kalifornia is intended to indicate it's socialist agenda. But, I feel pretty sure you already knew that. Like it or not, Kalifornia got the way it is because so many "native Kalifornians" decided to accept a socialist form of government. One that, they can not afford. One that obviously has no financial restraint.

Tell me which group is it, that doesn't want to share the natural oil reserves off the (American) coast of California, the "natives" you speak of or the intruders. Yep, I'll agree, get rid of all but the original Californians (there are exceptions) and it might be a decent place for a self sustaining American to make a living.

As far as Kalifornia dropping out and surviving on it's own with it's natives, I think you'd find that without the water, the investment and other resources provided by other states, your California would be dramitically different. I won't begin to suggest the State of California doesn't have some things going for it but, geography and natural beauty is not something Californian's accomplished, it was there already. Kalifornia wants to dance to it's own tune, that's fine by me, just don't come begging for help when the crap hits the fan. Don't tell me that Kalifornia hasn't been asking for federal assistance, we all know that's been on going for quite a while. It all depends on how one chooses to value something. I'm not against California, I simply want Kalifornia and other states that won't pull their own weight to take the necessary steps to control the problems they have brought onto themselves. I'm not seeing much of that. What I'm seeing is beggers asking for a handout. But then, I'm sure all those non-natives are the ones that brought all this on. Yeah right.
Every state has it's own issues and problems but for some reason, Kalifornia is special.

Trolling? That's laughable.

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Kalifornia wants to dance to it's own tune, that's fine by me, just don't come begging for help when the crap hits the fan.


Oh yeah?

Well then I guess it is time to start whipping em out and measuring.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...ountries_nominal_GDP

Note lines 8 and then line 71.
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Oh yeah?

Well then I guess it is time to start whipping em out and measuring.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...ountries_nominal_GDP

Note lines 8 and then line 71.


Pokey,
Please don't tell me you think Gross Domestic Products is an indication of how California is doing all on it's own. Pull all that foreign money out of CA, stop letting CA draw water from other states, make them pay their own way and see how that works out. Just imagine if the other states cut off the water supply and how CA agriculture would fare. But, let's suggest for a second that all of that is due strictly to only California investment, science, engineering, agriculture, etc. We were in more of a national economy but has transition into a world economy. Then why is it with all that money flowing through CA, they can't be fiscally responsible? IF you want to compare CA to KY, then do so but do a fair comparasion. Compare the tax base and see which state is doing a better job with what they have. I'm surely not braggin on KY, we could and should be doing better but at least we're not begging in the corner for hand outs. I can assure you, KY has it's own issues that I have referred to before. The CA legislature can't figure out how to balance a budget and wants to set the standard for the rest of the nation to follow. Well, thanks but no thanks.

As I've previously stated, I've got nothing against CA as a whole but, I do have a problem with any entity that leeches off the rest of the states and then has the gall to act superior.
As I asked before, who is it that won't let the nation tap into that off shore oil? We all use gas and diesel yet CA imports. I know there are lots of reasons for that but the fact is, the oil is known to be off shore and yet, CA won't let the drilling platforms go after it.

Ron

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Ooh, sweet burn pokey!

Ron, I must confess that when I posted that,and even now, I am well medicated on my legal medical cannibis, so it's mostly stoned bullsh.., but I do think that if it is ok to close borders to ones country (which I don't dispute that right for a country to protect itself from all threats) then if California were to seccede from the union, we would also have that right. So whether the economic threat be coming from non Californians from Mexico or from Georgia, we should be able to control the access to our borders.

As for lacking resources, I'm not sure what California that you are referring to? California has many resevoirs, springs, and rivers that provide water throughout the state (and the rest of the country via bottled spring water) not to mention the Delta Mendota Canal that takes water from the vast river deltas in Central California to southern California. There are vast windmill farms throughout California, not to mention solar energy and nearly 400 hydro electric facilities, we aren't at the mercy of the Hoover Dam alone.

You complain about Californians coming begging for a Federal handout. I'm not that Californian, and I don't associate with anyone who feels that way, any more than any citizen of any other state. Yes, we have been pretty well run dry on social services, and I do believe that it is non Californians that have created that burden. Call them Mexicans if it makes you feel better. But there are also lots of people that get of Greyhound buses in Hollywood or San Francisco, seeking something that no other place offers, whether it is fame and fortune, or peace and freedom. Most people wind up with none of that and wind up on the state's teet. I'm sure that living in Kentucky, you aren't used to people coming to your state to try to make a new start. Who wants to go to Kentucky? Most of these people couldn't find Kentucky on a map. But everyone seems to find California.

As far as your intentional misspelling "to indicate it's (sic) socialist agenda", fine. I get it. I applaud your rapier wit. You can drop it now.

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