Maybe Americans aren't as stupid naive as some people seem to think.

quote Anti-Incumbent Rage Abates in Primary with Lincoln Win Somewhere along the way, voters on both sides of the aisle rediscovered their pragmatism. They remembered that viability, not just purity, is also important. In Arkansas, pundits were predicting the demise of two-term conservative Democrat Blanche Lincoln in a runoff, but voters proved them wrong, and Lincoln wrangled a surprise comeback. In Iowa, Republicans bucked the Tea Party trend and gave former four-term governor Terry Branstad another shot at his old job. Likewise, in Virginia's Fifth Congressional District, six Tea Party candidates went home disappointed on Tuesday as the Establishment Republican, state senator Robert Hurt, ran away with the nomination, beating his closest opponent by more than 20 points. In fact, a surprising number of Establishment candidates survived challenges in a season in which Washington's blessing often felt more like a curse. South Carolina state representative Nikki Haley prevailed in an ugly primary, which included not one but two accusations of adultery, to win 49% of the vote for the GOP nomination for governor (she still faces a runoff, which she looks likely to win). Former eBay CEO Meg Whitman handily won the GOP gubernatorial nomination (after spending $80 million on the primary, it would've been an incredibly expensive loss). Former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina beat out a moderate and a Tea Party challenger in the Golden State's GOP primary to take on Senator Barbara Boxer. And Representative Jane Harman, a California Democrat, looks likely to survive the toughest primary the eight-term incumbent has seen in a decade. http://news.yahoo.com/s/tim..._time/08599199527200

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quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE: Maybe Americans aren't as stupid as some people seem to think.

Not sure if you're aware of this Neptune, but Lincoln is actually the more conservative between her and the other major running candidate in the primary for the Democrats. I forget the person's name, but the OTHER one (who lost) was heavily supported by the unions and is far more liberal than Lincoln is.

Never the less, she'll probably lose in November anyway...

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2008 Jeep Patriot Limited 4x2
2002 Ford Explorer Sport 2dr 4x2
2002 Ford Crown Victoria LX
1987 Pontiac Fiero SE / V6
1973 Volkswagen Type-2 Transporter

What do you have to say about this story?
Unemployed, mystery Dem wins S.C. primary
Veteran who raised no funds defeats 4-term lawmaker to face Sen. DeMint
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id...itics-decision_2010/

quote State Democratic Party Chairwoman Carol Fowler said voters unfamiliar with either candidate may have voted alphabetically for Greene over Rawl.

What does that say about the voters?

quote DeMint, a conservative Republican and tea party darling pursuing a second term, has marshaled a $3.5 million war chest already to face the bare-pockets Democratic underdog. Political scientist Scott Huffmon at Winthrop University said the looming DeMint-Greene contest already shapes up in lopsided favor of DeMint and shows South Carolina Democrats lack depth to field strong candidates in every race.

Whorehouse Harry Reid (d) Nevada, won again, too.

Winning the primary and winning the general election are two entirely different things. That is where the anti-incumbant sentiment is going to really kick in.

quote Originally posted by htexans1: Whorehouse Harry Reid (d) Nevada, won again, too.

I thought he said he was retiring?


There's no way in hell that he'll win this election though... his numbers are trailing bad...

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2008 Jeep Patriot Limited 4x2
2002 Ford Explorer Sport 2dr 4x2
2002 Ford Crown Victoria LX
1987 Pontiac Fiero SE / V6
1973 Volkswagen Type-2 Transporter

The best thing about seeing neptunes post's is that the red bar keeps growing and growing! Hopefully soon we'll see the beautiful banned sign across his avatar.

quote Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: I thought he said he was retiring? There's no way in hell that he'll win this election though... his numbers are trailing bad...

Bad news or good news for Harry? GOP picks NV tea party candidate in Reid battle

quote LAS VEGAS (AP) - Nevada Republicans Tuesday picked tea party insurgent Sharron Angle to take on Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, marking the start of an epic showdown between a king of Capitol Hill and a conservative renegade who wants to turn Washington on end. The choices couldn't be more different.

quote "It looks like good news for Harry Reid," said University of Nevada, Las Vegas, political scientist David DaMore. "She has pretty well defined herself as a niche candidate. How does she break out of that mold to a broader audience?"

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quote Originally posted by rpro: Winning the primary and winning the general election are two entirely different things. That is where the anti-incumbant sentiment is going to really kick in.

Anti-incumbant ? Any good principled conservatives being booted out yet ? Any conservatives getting shouted down at their town hall meetings over the breaks ? Any conservatives having to take double and triple security with them and wear flak jackets for fear of catching a little warm high-velocity justice from some random irate taxpayer ?

I think it's more like anti-moonbat sentiment.

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double posting.

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quote Originally posted by htexans1: I'm as Republican (or Conserative) as anyone here on PFF, But I think we actually need Neptune here and not banned. Why? We need to hear the story from both sides, and we cannot get both sides of the issue if our friend Neppy "bites the big one." What good is preaching if we only speak to the choir? LOL!!

AMEN!!

I for one have never given him a negative. I have him as a neutral currently. I actually like his non-political posts (seen one of those in years?). Lets have a red reversal party. Do unto others and all that.

Brad

quote Originally posted by firstfiero: The best thing about seeing neptunes post's is that the red bar keeps growing and growing! Hopefully soon we'll see the beautiful banned sign across his avatar.

Very strange hope, indeed.
The eradication of an opinion that represents an unpleasent aggravation to an opposing viewpoint?

We may all be guilty of that at one time or another.
Like this post here......

quote Originally posted by firstfiero: The best thing about seeing neptunes post's is that the red bar keeps growing and growing! Hopefully soon we'll see the beautiful banned sign across his avatar.

Wow. Why the hate?

I'm giving you a + neptune

Leftist union phucks used $10 million dollars from taking food off the tables and mouths of hard working people and spent it on a losing candidate to try to defeat Blanche Lincoln. Big Fail.

I hadn't really noticed his bar getting any redder. We do need our village idiot though, for reasons mentioned above. I keep him neutral. If he does get banned we can still rely on RayB to fill in for him.

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quote Originally posted by firstfiero: The best thing about seeing neptunes post's is that the red bar keeps growing and growing! Hopefully soon we'll see the beautiful banned sign across his avatar.

Hmm, Well, I'm not for banning anyone but, the lack of tact does get old. Statements like the one quoted below along with his Slow Keep Right sign are not meant to endear.

quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE: Maybe Americans aren't as stupid naive as some people seem to think.

Infact, it is pretty insulting. But, if that's the message you're trying to send, I guess you get the results you're shooting for.

If Neppie gets banned, it's because he finally upset enough folks with his "witt" or lack thereof.

Ron

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snicker, snicker, snicker

Neptune fails...AGAIN.

With others, not looking to see Neptune banned.
If I/we wanted an echo chamber we'd be on dailykos or demunderground.

Usually when he posts stuff like this it actually shoots holes in his own argument/statement.

It mentioned R candidates winning their primaries as well.

The TeaParty isn't a party as much as the media has tried to spin it. It's a movement that is pushing for more conservative ideals.
Seems to be working..

quote Originally posted by firstfiero: The best thing about seeing neptunes post's is that the red bar keeps growing and growing! Hopefully soon we'll see the beautiful banned sign across his avatar.

I'm not in favor of *anyone* being banned simply because of their differing views, especially anyone like Neptune that contributes so much to the Fiero community as a whole....

uh....wait a minute.....

Your search - NEPTUNE - in section Technical Discussion & Questions did not return any results.
Your search - NEPTUNE - in section The Construction Zone did not return any results.
Your search - NEPTUNE - in section General Fiero Chat did not return any results.
Your search - NEPTUNE - in section The Mall did not return any results.
Your search - NEPTUNE - in section Events did not return any results.

Nevermind......

Your continued misuse of the term in the title sort of destroys any political creditability you might have. Name calling gets people nowhere but into arguments.

quote Originally posted by randye: I'm not in favor of *anyone* being banned simply because of their differing views, especially anyone like Neptune that contributes so much to the Fiero community as a whole....

Personally I don't care if they contribute to the rest of the forum or not, as i think everyone should have a right to speak their mind regardless if i agree with them or not, as long as they are not simply lobbing mindless insults around, which i see happening far too often .

quote Originally posted by rpro: Winning the primary and winning the general election are two entirely different things. That is where the anti-incumbant sentiment is going to really kick in.

I have no comment on what you said but your avatar is pure frickin' genius!

Neptune already has a + from me, he's had it for a long time. Although IMHO he's become a lot more of an idealogue than I thought he ever would be, I still think he has a lot more common sense than he lets on.

John STricker

quote Originally posted by madcurl: Wow. Why the hate? I'm giving you a + neptune

Nep keeps his neg from me until he stops using his current Sig. It is one thing to use something a couple times but when it is on you permanent Sig and used in any discussion then **** him.

I would hate to lose a member like Connecticut regardless of how liberal he may or may not be but Neptune can go suck an egg. He is no lose whatsoever. He brings nothing ever.

quote Originally posted by Uaana: Usually when he posts stuff like this it actually shoots holes in his own argument/statement.

That's a good part of the hilarity.

quote The TeaParty isn't a party as much as the media has tried to spin it. It's a movement that is pushing for more conservative ideals. Seems to be working..

He never seems to get that ridiculing the tea party will neither hurt nor discourage us. In fact, it motives me. So let him have at it.

Tea Baggers shot down in Super Primary Tuesday
All the men at the Alamo died. Goliad too.
Do you have a point ?

How about this?

Conservatives Are the Mainstream
http://www.newsmax.com/Rona...2010/05/24/id/359948

quote The impression you get from dominant opinion makers is that conservatives who support the free enterprise system are cranks who are in the minority. The truth is quite the opposite. “Whether we look at capitalism, taxes, business, or government, the data show a clear and consistent pattern: 70 percent of Americans support the free enterprise system and are unsupportive of big government,” Arthur C. Brooks writes in his book “The Battle: How the Fight Between Free Enterprise and Big Government Will Shape America’s Future,” which hits bookstores this week. “By contrast, somewhere between 20 and 30 percent of the adult population opposes free enterprise and prefers government solutions to our problems,” Brooks writes. “To be generous, let’s round up to 30 percent and call them the ‘30 percent coalition.’” So why do Americans have the opposite impression? Sometimes it takes someone who was on the other side to explain things clearly, as Brooks does in his eye-opening book. Brooks grew up in a liberal family in Seattle. “It took me until I was 30 years old to be able to actually say with a straight face that America is a gift to the world,” Brooks tells Newsmax. Now Brooks is president of the American Enterprise Institute. Previously, he was the Louis A. Bantle Professor of Business and Government Policy at Syracuse University. Founded in 1943, AEI it is the oldest conservative movement think tank. Brooks explains that the “30 percent coalition” has been able to present its views as representing the majority because it controls public discourse. “The 30 percent coalition is led by people who are smart, powerful, and strategic,” Brooks says. “These are many of the people who make opinions, entertain us, inform us, and teach our kids in college. They are the intellectual upper class: those in the top 5 percent of the population in income, who hold graduate degrees, and work in intellectual industries such as law, education, journalism, and entertainment.” Heading the intellectual upper class is President Obama. To illustrate Obama’s views on the free enterprise system, Brooks quotes his words to graduating seniors of Arizona State University on May 13, 2009. “You’re taught to chase after the usual brass rings, being on this ‘who’s who’ list or that top 100 list, how much money you make and how big your corner office is; whether you have a fancy enough title or a nice enough car,” Obama said. “Let me suggest that such an approach won’t get you where you want to go. It displays a poverty of ambition.” This from a man who reported $5.5 million in income last year. Crammed with telling statistics, Brooks’ book says that academia is a particularly important part of the “30 percent coalition.” “Academics as a whole align massively with the far left — more so than any other profession,” Brooks says, citing General Social Survey data from 1996 to 2008. “A 2002 study examined the political ideology of social sciences professors in a number of our nation’s top universities. At Cornell, for example, 166 were liberal and 6 conservative. At the University of Colorado, 155 were liberal and 5 conservative.” Journalists are another influential component of the coalition. “When asked in a 2005 poll about their political views, nearly three times as many journalists described themselves as liberals as those who described themselves as conservatives,” Brooks notes. Conservatives need to educate the public about their principles and the fact that they are actually in the mainstream, Brooks tells me. Indeed, Brooks says, Newsmax, rather than Time, represents the mainstream. “Anybody who says that this is just a Republican or a conservative thing simply is either a vested interest on the 30 percent side or hasn’t bothered to look at the data,” Brooks says. “Seventy percent of the American public is in favor of free enterprise; 30 percent is either actively against it or is passively against it. So it’s a mainstream thing, and that is what we have to keep in mind and publicize.”

Not many people vote in primaries. The general election will be the tell all and without Obama on the ticket, people will not go out and vote. Those voters that came out for Obama don't care one bit about anyone else running for office, unless that candidate is offering free handouts or promises of "hope" and "change".

Without the tea bag groups, the primaries would not even been an issue, but it is funny to see the incumbents fight for something that should be in the bag.

j.

So whats the term for the other side? Douchebaggers?

Yea, I think even the ones who do actually come out will have realized that Obama is full of crap and vote the other way. Mostly though I imagine without the handouts %80 of those people wont even care.

Angle Wins ‘Shocker’ To Challenge Reid
http://www.newsmax.com/Insi...al&promo_code=A0AD-1

quote The tea party flexed its considerable muscle in Nevada Tuesday night, transporting staunch conservative Assemblywoman Sharron Angle from also-ran status to a stunning political upset that pundits said would “long be remembered.” "We have completed the first step to taking back our U.S. senate seat," Angle told supporters. "We need to say to Harry Reid, you have failed and you are fired." According to the Nevada Secretary of State, with all votes, Angle, who barely registered a pulse in the polls before the Tea Party Express organization endorsed her in mid-April, won with 40.09 percent of the vote -- a much greater margin than even her supporters expected.

quote Originally posted by htexans1: ....................................But I think we actually need Neptune here and not banned. Why? We need to hear the story from both sides, and we cannot get both sides of the issue if our friend Neppy "bites the big one." What good is preaching if we only speak to the choir? LOL!!

Except that he RARELY contributes ANYTHING that is worth reading. From his avatar to the heading of this topic, his posts are demeaning to those of the opposite side of an issue. His comments are not intended to open the opposing side of an issue; rather, he just insults those who oppose the liberalism that is his mentor.

quote Originally posted by texasfiero: Except that he RARELY contributes ANYTHING that is worth reading. From his avatar to the heading of this topic, his posts are demeaning to those of the opposite side of an issue. His comments are not intended to open the opposing side of an issue; rather, he just insults those who oppose the liberalism that is his mentor.

yes

maybe Neptune will try harder to contribute? ...hehe!

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quote Originally posted by 86GT3.4DOHC: So whats the term for the other side? Douchebaggers? Yea, I think even the ones who do actually come out will have realized that Obama is full of crap and vote the other way. Mostly though I imagine without the handouts %80 of those people wont even care.

Don't worry, there will be a new round of stimulus spending right before the election... and it will be targeted to those areas that vote for Dems.

quote Originally posted by Pyrthian:

Speaking of meaningful contributions to a discussion,..............

quote Originally posted by spark1:

http://www.rasmussenreports...n_2010_nevada_senate

"Sharron Angle, following her come-from-behind Republican Primary win Tuesday, has bounced to an 11-point lead over Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid in Nevada’s closely-watched U.S. Senate race. "

quote Originally posted by Patrick's Dad: "Sharron Angle, following her come-from-behind Republican Primary win Tuesday, has bounced to an 11-point lead over Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid in Nevada’s closely-watched U.S. Senate race. "

quote Originally posted by pokeyfiero: Nep keeps his neg from me until he stops using his current Sig. It is one thing to use something a couple times but when it is on you permanent Sig and used in any discussion then **** him. I would hate to lose a member like Connecticut regardless of how liberal he may or may not be but Neptune can go suck an egg. He is no lose whatsoever. He brings nothing ever.

But this is perfectly OK in Tea Bag World?
(capitalized out of respect)




Wow.
http://www.slowertraffickeepright.com/

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Neptuna,

Here is a new avatar for you. When I read your sophomorish posts I envision a terrified little man hiding behind his computer screen. In real life you would probably never say some of the things you do. This is why your words pretty much fall on deaf ears.

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