OK here's the deal: I FINALLY got two X boxes, two TVs, two games of the same version, & a network hub. I can get them to recognize each other, create match on one system, & it shows up on another system, but when you try to join it gives the error "The game you were attempting to join is not available or is full". WTF?? This is just with one player on each console. What do I do to get it to work???
Of course everything at the Mickysoft website is no help at all & in fact is WRONG...
TIA!
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

Which do you most can't the least?
What I most can't the least, would be do not a bad job but always a good.

The first thing to do would be to make sure both Xboxes have obtained an IP address. It should be in the system settings, then network settings (or something to that effect). Also, make sure they don't have the same IP address. If they both have an IP address, but can't "talk" to each other, then the hub or network cable(s) would be suspect.

Also, if you have a network crossover cable, a standard network cable with a crossover adapter, or an Xbox "system link cable", you can connect the Xboxes directly to each other (i.e. no hub). However, you cannot use these to connect an Xbox to a network hub. You need standard network cables if you want to use the hub.

Thanks for the response.
These are in the same room, connected with network cables via the hub. Do they need to be configured with IP addresses & set up to read each other?
When I first tried connecting without the hub (which mickysoft says will work), they didn't read each other & the "system link" in the Forza menu was not active. With the hub, it's active & the game lobby reads the host's system username (after creating a "match"). But if you click on that "match"/username that's when I get the error mentioned above.
Sigh...
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

quote Originally posted by Tha Driver: Do they need to be configured with IP addresses & set up to read each other?

It's possible. Although, I have to admit it's been a few years since I used an original Xbox.

There are two ways you can configure the IP address. You can go into the network settings and manually assign one, or you can connect the Xbox to your internet modem or router and have the Xbox automatically get one.

If you play on Xbox Live very much, then you should use the second approach. You use a network cable to connect the Xbox directly to the modem, and then start the automatic network configuration. Then you plug in the other Xbox, and repeat. When you're done, both Xboxes will have similar IP addresses (the number after the last dot will be different, but the other numbers should be the same).

Hopefully, that fixes it.

I have no intention of signing up for X Box live....
I bought the extra X Box & TV solely for the purpose of 4 player racing in Forza in the same room.
I changed the IP on one of them to 1.1.1.1 (they were both 0.0.0.0) & it wouldn't get as far as it did before (wouldn't show up the match/username created on the other machine). I went back to automatic IP (only way to get it to reset to 0.0.0.0) & it did the same as before (same error in my first post above).
GOD I HATE mickysoft!!!!
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

Change 1 of them to 192.168.1.2 and the other to 192.168.1.3

That will put them on the same network.

The problem seems to be your network, not with Microsoft.... Change the IP on both of them as stated and let us know what happens.

J.

quote Originally posted by Tha Driver: I have no intention of signing up for X Box live.... I bought the extra X Box & TV solely for the purpose of 4 player racing in Forza in the same room. I changed the IP on one of them to 1.1.1.1 (they were both 0.0.0.0) & it wouldn't get as far as it did before (wouldn't show up the match/username created on the other machine). I went back to automatic IP (only way to get it to reset to 0.0.0.0) & it did the same as before (same error in my first post above). GOD I HATE mickysoft!!!! ~ Paul aka "Tha Driver"

Do what DarkHorizon said. The first three numbers in the IP address need to be the same for both Xboxes. And the last number needs to be different.

Some examples:

Xbox #1 is 255.255.255.0 and Xbox #2 is 255.255.255.1
Xbox #1 is 192.168.1.100 and Xbox #2 is 192.168.1.101
Xbox #1 is 1.1.1.10 and Xbox #2 is 1.1.1.11
etc etc...

[This message has been edited by Blacktree (edited 10-07-2009).]

use a crossover cable.

quote Originally posted by Blacktree: Do what DarkHorizon said. The first three numbers in the IP address need to be the same for both Xboxes. And the last number needs to be different. Some examples: Xbox #1 is 255.255.255.0 and Xbox #2 is 255.255.255.1 Xbox #1 is 192.168.1.100 and Xbox #2 is 192.168.1.101 Xbox #1 is 1.1.1.10 and Xbox #2 is 1.1.1.11 etc etc...

Doesn't work. I still get the error "The game you were attempting to join is not available or is full".
Buy another cable???!!!
I JUST bought a hub so that they would read each other - IN SPITE of the fact that microsh*t says you only need a "network cable".
Everything I've read on the micrsh*t forums & other forums & pages says it will work using network cables & a hub. Without the hub they wouldn't read each other, but with the hub they read & display the "match" set up on the other xbox, but I get that same error...

Did I mention I HATE microsoft???
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

If you downloaded any custom cars or tracks for Forza Motorsport, make sure both Xboxes have them.

If that doesn't work... I don't know. Maybe a faulty network cable? Or maybe one of the Xboxes is faulty. *shrug*

Both xboxes were bought used. But I don't think either has any downloaded cars or tracks. I know my profiles do not. I do think that the first one was online at one time - IIRC there was a profile that had a username where an option came up to sing in (or something like that).
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

Well we got it to work - sorta.
We swapped out one of my Xboxes for my friend's, & the system link works. We can now play 2 player racing on 2 separate TVs. BUT YOU CANNOT PLAY 4 PLAYER ON 2 TVS!!!! It takes a separate TV, XBOX, & GAME OF THE SAME VERSION FOR EVERY SINGLE FREAKIN' PLAYER. So if you want to race 4 player Forza, you HAVE TO HAVE 4 TVs, 4 XBOXES, & 4 GAMES OF THE SAME VERSION.
I've WASTED my time & money buying an extra (32") TV, Xbox, & network hub!!! DAMNIT!!!
Microsoft can KISS MY ASS!
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

i cant check right now but are you positive? i know we played 8 vs 8 halo 2 with system link on 2 xboxs 2 tvs

it should say on the back. is there an option for 2 player 1 tv mode? if so, there ought to be a 4 player 2 tv mode.
i dont have the case but the requirements should tell you on the back of the video game case.

I'm nowhere near a guru with Xbox. In fact, I have ONE game. Forza.

A while back, Chris brought his xbox home and we hooked it to mine, and played 4 player 2 tv on it, in separate rooms. I had a 20' network cable and rewired one end as a crossover. We didn't have any issues at all, that I recall, other than Chris kept kicking my butt.

I honestly can't imagine why anyone that didn't want on xbox live would mess with a hub and all that, all you need to hook two up is a crossover cable and you're godd go go, at least as I remember it.I did just look at my game package and it shows systemlink to support 2-8 users.

John Stricker

quote Originally posted by ghost187x: i cant check right now but are you positive? i know we played 8 vs 8 halo 2 with system link on 2 xboxs 2 tvs it should say on the back. is there an option for 2 player 1 tv mode? if so, there ought to be a 4 player 2 tv mode. i dont have the case but the requirements should tell you on the back of the video game case.

quote Originally posted by ghost187x: i cant check right now but are you positive? i know we played 8 vs 8 halo 2 with system link on 2 xboxs 2 tvs it should say on the back. is there an option for 2 player 1 tv mode? if so, there ought to be a 4 player 2 tv mode. i dont have the case but the requirements should tell you on the back of the video game case.

I'm 99.9% positive. In the game we can't get the second controllers to do anything AT ALL. There is no way to do split screen & system link at the same time!
What made us realize that it wasn't something we were doing wrong, is when the screen came up with "system link up to EIGHT Xboxes". The box says "2 to 8 players with system link". So that means up to 8 players using 8 Xboxes!!!
GRRRRR.
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

Mostly we did two player but my wife joined in for a couple of races on the speedway track, where it was just an oval. That was on the big screen in the living room and it was just like 2 player with one box, and we could see Chris' car (because his mom wrecked him so I could win ) while we were racing and he could see us.l

Crossover cables are dirt cheap, I'd really give that a try if I were you. Any Radio Shack will have one.

John Stricker

quote Originally posted by Tha Driver: Are you sure? You did a 4 player game? "Cause you say "4 player 2 TV" but all I see racing are you & Chris, & where I went to school that adds up to 2. Thanks everyone for all the help. Your time is greatly appreciated. Story of my life, though: YOU CAN"T DO WHAT I WANT TO DO. ~ Paul aka "Tha Driver" EDIT: Pluses for everyone!

OK I'll try a crossover cable 1st chance I get.
Thanks,
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

I don't think you can System Link more than 4 Xboxes at once. And BTW, Forza has 2-player split-screen. It's in the multiplayer section.

When you go to multiplayer menu & highlite "System Link", it says "System link up to 8 Xbox consoles on a network or hub".
Gee I know it has split screen, we've been playing 2 player since the game came out. But I don't see any way to use system link & split screen at the same time. It's one or the other in the menu.
But I'll get a crossover cable when I get the chance & try again.
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

setup xbox's for static ip's... no dhcp
xbox 1
subnet 255.255.255.0
default gateway: 192.168.1.1
ip address: 192.168.1.103*
xbox 2
subnet 255.255.255.0
default gateway: 192.168.1.1
ip address: 192.168.1.104*
etc etc
i think that should work. the class a, b, c, d ip schemes and subnetting confuses me
if that dont work, try 192.168.0.1 for default gateways. if not, i give up lol. just buy a router/switch

What would a router/switch do that a hub or crossover cable won't? What kind of "switch"?
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

quote Originally posted by ghost187x: use a crossover cable.

Do this, problem solved.


Any xbox game that can do system link can be played online for free(even the original halo)
www.xbconnect.com

Just an interesting update...
I tried the system link with my 360 & it worked the same as the two original xboxes - two player only (one on each system/TV).
Still plan to try a crossover cable when I get the chance.
Hey jmbishop, how does the xbconnect work? I checked it out, & there was nothing there about how it actually worked.
Thanks again all,
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

Hey Leroy, what'cha doin' dragging that chain across the floor?
Leroy: "Ever tried *pushing* a chain?"

Its a computer program that allows you to connect with others using the program and fool your xbox into connecting through system link to these other people using the program.

quote Originally posted by jmbishop: Its a computer program that allows you to connect with others using the program and fool your xbox into connecting through system link to these other people using the program.

Yeah, I know that. But how does it work?
I understand that you have to have the computer, xbox, & DSL modem connected to a hub. I assume it will work with a DSL modem...
There is very little info about the program on their website.
Thanks,
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing.

Are you asking how well it works? It works great, if I remember right one of the few game that was having problems working with the program was halo3, but they may have fixed it by now.

No, I'm asking HOW it works. If you have a computer, the xbox, & the modem hooked to a hub, there has to be some way it runs the game through the computer or something. Or do you hook up the xbox to the computer, & the computer to the hub? You'd need two network plugs on the computer for that...
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

quote Originally posted by Tha Driver: No, I'm asking HOW it works. If you have a computer, the xbox, & the modem hooked to a hub, there has to be some way it runs the game through the computer or something. Or do you hook up the xbox to the computer, & the computer to the hub? You'd need two network plugs on the computer for that... ~ Paul aka "Tha Driver"

Both setups you described will work, the computer just tunnels data back and forth over the internet from the xboxs.

Well got a crossover cable & that was a waste of 15 bucks. Works exactly the same as the hub. Will link the 2 xboxes but only in "System Link" & not with any "Split Screen" options (so only 2 player).
jstricker: can you remember in detail how you got it to work???
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

Giggle Cream - it makes dessert *funny*!

instead of modifying the network settings, the router at your local best buy or walmart does it for you.
a router makes life easy. the cisco linksys routers you see at best buy. they provide NAT. it provides a network and assigns ip's automatically if you enable dhcp (dynamic).
i have a feeling you are S O L. sorry. its probly a reason why they made Forza 2 and 3 so you can have that feature. I tried searching, but i do not think there is 2 player multiplayer system link function.

Forza is ****ed up on so many levels.
There is no way to save fastest laps on a username basis to compare lap times. What's the most important thing in racing? You guessed it - lap times.
Other players can't use my cars in certain modes. I've built several cars that are exactly alike except for a little more HP & better tires. It's to give my competitors a slight advantage. ('cause otherwise I outrun them ;-)
There is no way to copy games or cars to a chip to give to someone else - or to copy my cars to another xbox/game.
No 2 player replay - WhyTF not? You ALWAYS want to watch a good replay to check out that great pass or bad wreck!
There are other things I can't remember at this time that I hate.
It's a shame that such a great racing game is so screwed up.
I think you're right - there is no 4 player/2 TV possible. That REALLY sucks after I bought another TV, xbox, game, hub, & now crossover cable!
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

"James Lewis - get away from that wheelbarrow; you know you don't know nutin' 'bout machinery!"