Obama was obviously a little too eager. He couldn't keep his mouth shut long enough to let the Chief Justice finish his first sentence. Great start Mr. President. Way to go!
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Bradley Jay Member
Posts: 794 From: Redlands, CA Registered: Jun 2008
Many of my peers at school (including a conceited debate girl) kept telling me that the Sec. of State messed up while saying the Oath, and it wasn't Obama's fault. Everytime the subject was brought up around democrats in a class of mine, that was the same excuse I kept getting.
Edit: I apologize for mixing up sec of state and justice.
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Flamberge Member
Posts: 4268 From: Terra Sancta, TX Registered: Oct 2001
I'm didn't vote for President Obama, but can't the guy mess up a line now and again? I know I have. (And before you say something about how the libs or dems or whomever got all over Bush for the same thing, I'd give my same argument to them.) If you've never jumbled a word or screwed something up, then by all means look down your nose at President Obama for the screw up.
I actually think the man is off to a good start. (It's early, but today was good and I want him to by a successful president, for the sake of the country and the world.)
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Wolfhound Member
Posts: 5317 From: Opelika , Alabama, USA Registered: Oct 1999
Many of my peers at school (including a conceited debate girl) kept telling me that the Sec. of State messed up while saying the Oath, and it wasn't Obama's fault. Everytime the subject was brought up around democrats in a class of mine, that was the same excuse I kept getting.
You mean the Chief Justice, not Sec. of State. Obama knew the oath The chief Justice transposed two words, which sort of blew the, repeat after me thing, when Obama said it correctly and then restated it as the Chief Justice had said it. Much ado over nothing.
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jstricker Member
Posts: 12956 From: Russell, KS USA Registered: Apr 2002
I just watched the tape of it and I agree, much ado over nothing.
It appeared that Justice Roberts screwed things up and then, on the second recital, it flustered Pres. Obama. It would have flustered anyone in that situation, most likely. It's debatable if the oath is even required to take office, but just to avoid any future legal crap, they did it again this morning.
Fine by me. The pettiness has to end (but I won't hold my breath).
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Originally posted by Wolfhound:
You mean the Chief Justice, not Sec. of State. Obama knew the oath The chief Justice transposed two words, which sort of blew the, repeat after me thing, when Obama said it correctly and then restated it as the Chief Justice had said it. Much ado over nothing.
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PaulJK Member
Posts: 6638 From: Los Angeles Registered: Oct 2001
Roberts said it wrong, and Obama repeated the error. "Roberts got the words of the oath a little off, which prompted Obama to do so, too. "
They redid it to cover any possible concerns. "Obama and Roberts went through the drill again out of what White House counsel Greg Craig called 'an abundance of caution.' "
"The original, bungled version on Tuesday caught observers by surprise and then got replayed on cable news shows.
It happened when Obama interrupted Roberts midway through the opening line, in which the president repeats his name and solemnly swears.
Next in the oath is the phrase " ... that I will faithfully execute the office of president of the United States." But Roberts rearranged the order of the words, not saying "faithfully" until after "president of the United States." "
Non-issue. Move along.
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The chief Justice transposed two words, which sort of blew the, repeat after me thing, when Obama said it correctly and then restated it as the Chief Justice had said it. Much ado over nothing.
AFTER being flustered by Obama's screw-up. Obama interrupted the Chief Justice in the middle of the sentence. This obviously caused him to lose his train of thought. If Obama had been patient I doubt the second error would have occured.
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Formula88 Member
Posts: 53788 From: Raleigh NC Registered: Jan 2001
I'm glad the oath was re-done. Leaves no room for lawyers to file lawsuits and haters to continue to blog about Obama's position as Pres. I also noted from the news that Pres. Obama wasn't too please at Vice Pres. Biden's comical response during the house swearing in procedure. The look on the Pres face was a serious one and he even used his hand in moving Vice Biden to the mic.
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2.5 Member
Posts: 43235 From: Southern MN Registered: May 2007
I also noted from the news that Pres. Obama wasn't too please at Vice Pres. Biden's comical response during the house swearing in procedure. The look on the Pres face was a serious one and he even used his hand in moving Vice Biden to the mic.
Based on what I have seen of Biden so far, this will probably continue to happen. Might be amusing actually.
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cliffw Member
Posts: 37880 From: Bandera, Texas, USA Registered: Jun 2003
Originally posted by PaulJK: It was important enough to require that the President be sworn in again.
I hear that the press was complaining that they did not get access to cover it, as they felt they should. I also hear that he did not place his hand on a Bible. I agree it is much ado about little. Besides, if he does not plan on following through with the requirements of the oath, his recital of said oath will mean nothing.
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FieroJam Member
Posts: 1118 From: Zephyrhills, FL Registered: Feb 2008
he completed the oath the first time so doing it over again is just a pr stunt. How many people mess up the oath you take when joining the military or becoming a citizen and no one notices or cares for that matter. It is much more important how the person does the job than what they say.
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madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
AFTER being flustered by Obama's screw-up. Obama interrupted the Chief Justice in the middle of the sentence. This obviously caused him to lose his train of thought. If Obama had been patient I doubt the second error would have occured.
You’re wrong on all accounts. From reviewing the video it was the other way around. If the Supreme Court justice Edwards had followed a simple rule (like others before him) he would've used notes and read them directly instead of trying to have the words memorized. Even rookie police officer(s) reads the Miranda rights from a card.
A body behavior language expert on O'Riley pointed out that Pres. Obama's did the correct thing considering the options being televised. He did not flinch nor did he correct Supreme Court Justice Edwards, or for that matter.... laughing it off as-if to make light of the matter. Pres. Obama's seriousness was the same as-to the swearing in of the white house members during Vice. Pres. Biden jovial moment.
Comparing the past administrations and former Pres. Bush the mood of the day is disserting at best. Leave the jokes to the comedians like Jon Stewart. Laughing, side jokes, winging-it, or as Palin like to do,” winking-it" has no place during serious moments for people are losing their homes, jobs, and life savings to crooks. Take the office or position(s) seriously or get out.
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Toddster Member
Posts: 20871 From: Roswell, Georgia Registered: May 2001
You’re wrong on all accounts. From reviewing the video it was the other way around. If the Supreme Court justice Edwards had followed a simple rule (like others before him) he would've used notes and read them directly instead of trying to have the words memorized. Even rookie police officer(s) reads the Miranda rights from a card.
A body behavior language expert on O'Riley pointed out that Pres. Obama's did the correct thing considering the options being televised. He did not flinch nor did he correct Supreme Court Justice Edwards, or for that matter.... laughing it off as-if to make light of the matter. Pres. Obama's seriousness was the same as-to the swearing in of the white house members during Vice. Pres. Biden jovial moment.
Comparing the past administrations and former Pres. Bush the mood of the day is disserting at best. Leave the jokes to the comedians like Jon Stewart. Laughing, side jokes, winging-it, or as Palin like to do,” winking-it" has no place during serious moments for people are losing their homes, jobs, and life savings to crooks. Take the office or position(s) seriously or get out.
Pres.Obama was following the Supreme Court Justice's lead. Instead of using a complete sentence Edward paused mid way. Why on earth the need to stop in the middle of the sentence? Next, he then continued to mess-up the next sentence.
As mentioned, prior Oaths were performed by using notes. Carter, Reagan, and even Clinton's Supreme court justices didn't take a chance at screwing-up. Edit: oh yeah I rest my case.
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