Ok, so I get the Sunday paper and splashed across the front page is.

THE WHOLE WORLD IS CRYING

I couldn't help but to think about all those weeping Aberiginal tribes persons, Namibinise, Chinese and lets not forget the Goat heards persons of Napal..

The editor must have taken the day off and the floor sweeper was temporarily standing in because that had to be the stupidest headline I've read in decades.

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I read somewhere that there is not a single nation on Earth that does not have a Catholic Church and Catholic followers so, in effect, the headline is correct if one views the world as a community of nations.

John Stricker

quote Originally posted by 84Bill: Ok, so I get the Sunday paper and splashed across the front page is. THE WHOLE WORLD IS CRYING I couldn't help but to think about all those weeping Aberiginal tribes persons, Namibinise, Chinese and lets not forget the Goat heards persons of Napal.. The editor must have taken the day off and the floor sweeper was temporarily standing in because that had to be the stupidest headline I've read in decades.

Well there sure is a lot more people concerned about the pope than I ever thought there would be.I've been rather surprised.

I think the sheep are overacting, as they tend to do...

The most moving this Pope did in the last decade was turning his other cheek on pedophile priests.

quote Originally posted by fogglethorpe: The most moving this Pope did in the last decade was turning his other cheek on pedophile priests.

To be a fly on the wall in Heaven, for THAT conversation!

God: Hello John Paul.
John: Hello God.
God: John Paul, we gotta talk..................

quote Originally posted by fogglethorpe: I think the sheep are overacting, as they tend to do... The most moving this Pope did in the last decade was turning his other cheek on pedophile priests.

unlike fogglethorpe who has done [crickets] chirp chirp chirp.............chirp chirp chirp [/crickets] for the world

wonder how many thousands will show up for your funeral?

quote Originally posted by Ken Wittlief: unlike fogglethorpe who has done [crickets] chirp chirp chirp.............chirp chirp chirp [/crickets] for the world wonder how many thousands will show up for your funeral?

Well. lets see. El Popo has publicly ignored pedophile preists.
Steadfastly said that God hates condoms even as AIDS has become an epidemic.
Never failed to remind the flock that ANY form of birth control is a sin.
Other than that he mostly seems like a nice enough guy.
I heard he used to love skiing.

quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE: Steadfastly said that God hates condoms even as AIDS has become an epidemic.

If people ignore the Catholic rule that sex that is only to be between a married husband and wife, then they can also ignore the Catholic rule that condoms are bad. If people listened to the rule that sex is only to be between a married husband and wife, then condoms would unnecessary for nearly everyone.

quote Originally posted by Steve Normington: If people ignore the Catholic rule that sex that is only to be between a married husband and wife, then they can also ignore the Catholic rule that condoms are bad. If people listened to the rule that sex is only to be between a married husband and wife, then condoms would unnecessary for nearly everyone.

Except couples that can't use other forms of birth control and really don't or can't have children, or, one in a marrage has a form of herpies and does'nt want to transmit to the other.

quote Originally posted by Steve Normington: If people ignore the Catholic rule that sex that is only to be between a married husband and wife, then they can also ignore the Catholic rule that condoms are bad. If people listened to the rule that sex is only to be between a married husband and wife, then condoms would unnecessary for nearly everyone.

That dosen't even deserve a reply/ rebuttal. And I'm sorry that I offered one, so I deleted it.

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quote Originally posted by jstricker: I read somewhere that there is not a single nation on Earth that does not have a Catholic Church and Catholic followers so, in effect, the headline is correct if one views the world as a community of nations. John Stricker

Ok John, since when does a very small percentage of people in the world constitute "The World"?

What I was getting at (since you seem to have missed it) is that news papers are to report the facts in a "nonbias" way. However this headline seems to be slanted considerably to the right in it's assumption that the entire globe of people are catholic and crying.

The proper headline would have read
Catholics around the word mourn.

But hey wtf do I know? I don't have a sheepskin in literary arts adoning my wall, I'm a highschool dropout.
I need another joint, this planet has gone totally bonkers and no one seems to notice it but me... Mihh... mayby it's time for a new hat.

quote Originally posted by Kekipi: Except couples that can't use other forms of birth control and really don't or can't have children, or, one in a marrage has a form of herpies and does'nt want to transmit to the other.

How did one person in a monogomous relationship where both partners were virgins when they got married get herpes?

What I'm saying is that the rule about no condoms is a Catholic rule. As is the rule that the only permissable sex is between married people. If someone violates the rule about adultery or fornication, then they aren't likely to avoid condom use because the Pope said so.

quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE: That isn't everyones rule. Lots of Africans, for example are untainted by western religeon. Of course their own religeon is as bad if not worse, in that department. Then there are the people who choose not to believe in majic of any sort.....

So if someone is "untainted" by wester religeon, why would what the Pope said about condoms matter?

I cant get over the quality of news reporting on Yahoo.com

Friday afternoon they reported the pope is dead

an hour later they reported his condition had gotten worse (worse than dead?)

today they had the headline: Pope's body moved

MOVED?! it MOVED?! All by itself?

you had to read the fine print (the story) saying the Pope's body WAS moved, from one location to another.

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quote Originally posted by 84Bill: news papers are to report the facts in a "nonbias" way.

unfortunately this is an erroneous view. i routinely read papers from the 1850s and 60s, and bias is everywhere. newspapers (and media in general) are owned by people or corporations, and generally exist to promote their views. real news is there mainly to fill in between, and to lend credibility to the editorials and the ads. the more they can insinuate opinion into the news, the better.

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quote Originally posted by stimpy:

I always thought there was something very, very wrong with that new Burger King "dude".

Really gives me the creeps.

quote Originally posted by 84Bill: Ok John, since when does a very small percentage of people in the world constitute "The World"? What I was getting at (since you seem to have missed it) is that news papers are to report the facts in a "nonbias" way. However this headline seems to be slanted considerably to the right in it's assumption that the entire globe of people are catholic and crying. The proper headline would have read Catholics around the word mourn..

I disagree. Many people respected the pope who were not Catholic. Jewish and Muslim leaders alike had great respect and admiration for the Pope. I am not saying I necessarily think the headline is the best I have ever read, but I don't see the big deal.

quote But hey wtf do I know?... this planet has gone totally bonkers and no one seems to notice it but me... Mihh... mayby it's time for a new hat.

Funny, I was thinking the exact opposite. You have gone totally bonkers and everyone except you seems to notice. The blind self of the Johari window.

quote Originally posted by Ken Wittlief: unlike fogglethorpe who has done [crickets] chirp chirp chirp.............chirp chirp chirp [/crickets] for the world

At least I'm not a trendy, pretentious jerk who suddenly gives a shlt now that the Pontiff has become worm food.

Good deeds do not negate bad deeds, Ken...

Why did His Holiness give pedophile priests a free ride? Why didn't he demand their dismissal, arrest, and prosecution? Why did he seem to be more interested in "ministering" to the culprits than their victims?

Either he:

A) was a cadaver with a mechanical waving arm and surgically implanted smile, propped up on a stick inside his plexiglass golf cart, while thousands of unsuspecting, hysterical faithful emitted drool and snot as they chanted in his honor, and faceless, hierarchic theocrackers in $500.00 hats really collected the bingo money, so to speak...

...or,

B) he was indifferent.

Which scenario makes you gush more, Ken?

quote wonder how many thousands will show up for your funeral?

You have no idea what I may have done to affect the world, Ken.
But, I will give you a hint...

...it does not include aiding and abetting felons.

So, at least those few dozen who show up at my funeral will be genuine.

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quote Originally posted by Ken Wittlief: I cant get over the quality of news reporting on Yahoo.com Friday afternoon they reported the pope is dead an hour later they reported his condition had gotten worse (worse than dead?) today they had the headline: Pope's body moved MOVED?! it MOVED?! All by itself? you had to read the fine print (the story) saying the Pope's body WAS moved, from one location to another.

You're making a joke right? You're one of them ppl when someone says 2balls at a baseball game you laugh and giggle arn't you?

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quote Originally posted by Black88GT: Funny, I was thinking the exact opposite. You have gone totally bonkers and everyone except you seems to notice. The blind self of the Johari window.

Well then, take your crying towel and shoveoff dickhead.

quote Originally posted by 84Bill: Well then, take your crying towel and shoveoff dickhead.

Thats not a nice thing for a minister to say. I remember you said you were a minister in an old thread Bill. Shame on you.

quote Originally posted by BENGAL4: Thats not a nice thing for a minister to say. I remember you said you were a minister in an old thread Bill. Shame on you.

Yes, thats right and if I had a ruler I whack you across the knuckels for being a smartass and questioning my authoriti.
Now, got to the back of the line!

quote Originally posted by 84Bill: Yes, thats right and if I had a ruler I whack you across the knuckels for being a smartass and questioning my authoriti. Now, got to the back of the line!

Oh thats means you must be a nun. I think you need your mouth washed out with soap. Remember, from the heart, the mouth speaks.

quote Originally posted by fogglethorpe: ....hate hate hate hate hate.... You have no idea what I may have done to affect the world, Ken.

your own words reveal your nature

I have only seen one or two priests actually brought up on charges, and they were defrocked

this is your new standard now - guilty when accused? someone brings accusations againts an individual and walks away with millions of dollars, and you assume the accused was guilty? It has never occurred to you that many of these people who bring accusations, then settle for money, really only wanted the money? if your child were sexually abused could YOU be paid-off to let the perp go free?

I have no ties or affiliation with the Catholic church whatsoever, but I know a man of honor and accopmplishment when I see one.

I see it in JP2, I dont see it in you.

you think by mocking or insulting the man while he lies in state you somehow raise yourself above him?

Think again.

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quote Originally posted by Ken Wittlief: your own words reveal your nature

As they should.

quote I have only seen one or two priests actually brought up on charges, and they were defrocked

Defrocked? Well boo-hoo. How about justice for those they violated?

quote this is your new standard now - guilty when accused? someone brings accusations againts an individual and walks away with millions of dollars, and you assume the accused was guilty? It has never occurred to you that many of these people who bring accusations, then settle for money, really only wanted the money?

Ok, Ken. Cite one example of a victim being paid off by the Catholic church. If you can, you prove me right. If you can't, you should stop spouting off.

quote I have no ties or affiliation with the Catholic church whatsoever, but I know a man of honor and accopmplishment when I see one. I see it in JP2, I dont see it in you.

So?

quote you think by mocking or insulting the man while he lies in state you somehow raise yourself above him?

You are just pissed off at me because I tell the truth, and you can't refute it.

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quote Originally posted by fogglethorpe: Defrocked? Well boo-hoo. How about justice for those they violated?

Well, you were complaining about what the Pope and church were doing, not law enforcement.
It was appropriate for the church to defrock the priests. What other action should the CHURCH take?
Are you suggesting the Catholic Church should start dispensing justice and giving jail terms?

I prefer the church to deal with church business and the judicial system deal with legal issues and punishment.

quote Originally posted by Formula88: I prefer the church to deal with church business and the judicial system deal with legal issues and punishment.

I do too. But, the church (and its Pope) coddled these priests instead of demanding they be held accountable by law.

For example:

http://crimemagazine.com/03/geoghan,1201.htm

http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/porter/index_1.html

quote Originally posted by BENGAL4: Oh thats means you must be a nun. I think you need your mouth washed out with soap.

No, I'm a minister so you don't have to think.

quote Remember, from the heart, the mouth speaks.

And you would just as soon put a dagger in it.

Remember, you are a follower.

so if someone accuses you of child abuse your employer should automatically assume you are guilty, fire you

and let you fend for yourself, get your own lawyer

doesnt matter whether you are guilty or not

thats how it works in your world?

Ken, read the articles I posted above. You will be enlightened, as you need to be.

quote Originally posted by 84Bill: And you would just as soon put a dagger in it. Remember, you are a follower.

Ha. I follow no man or liberal. BTW, I couldn't put a dagger in it because I doubt if it is big enough to find.

quote Originally posted by fogglethorpe: Ken, read the articles I posted above. You will be enlightened, as you need to be.

that is your source of 'truth' - Sensationalizing internet websites?

how can you enlighten anyone when you yourself dwell in the darkness?

quote Originally posted by BENGAL4: Ha. I follow no man or liberal. BTW, I couldn't put a dagger in it because I doubt if it is big enough to find.

Oh, but you are a follower.

quote Originally posted by Ken Wittlief: how can you enlighten anyone when you yourself dwell in the darkness?

God? Is that you again?

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quote Originally posted by 84Bill: God? Is that you again?

No follower, just defending a brother who knows the Truth.

Bill, you have been kind of nasty lately. Did your script of goverment supplied Prozac run out?

quote Originally posted by BENGAL4: No follower, just defending a brother who knows the Truth.

Defending? Truth? Last time I checked truth needs no defending because it can stand strongly on it's own.

quote Bill, you have been kind of nasty lately.

No, I've actually been myself, in fact quite content of late.

quote Did your script of goverment supplied Prozac run out?

- An ass hole comment if I ever read one.

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quote Originally posted by 84Bill: - An ass hole comment if I ever read one.

You know what the truth is. I'll leave it at that.

Where are you preaching at this weekend, since you are a minister? I can hear you from the pulpit saying "Don't make me sing, don't make me shout. Just turn those pockets inside out." Ha

quote Originally posted by BENGAL4: You know what the truth is. I'll leave it at that.

I do.

quote Where are you preaching at this weekend, since you are a minister?

This Sunday not much is planned but next Sunday myself and the other members of the congregation (all 25 including women and children 7 and up) will likely meet on the paintball field. Apparently the red flockers didn't like the ass swoupin they took last Sunday and has taken a vow to avenge their loss even though they won the last of a 3 game series. Apparently taking out all 8 members without a single loss to of our own left them feeling a bit bitter.
BTW, I recieved a call today and it appears that I have been moved up the ranks to the #2 slot of the blue flock, seems our leader likes my style.

quote I can hear you from the pulpit saying "Don't make me sing, don't make me shout. Just turn those pockets inside out." Ha

No, I don't require money, god provides everything if and when I need it.

To which god are you referring to? The god of paintball? Who do you shoot first, the women or the kids?

quote Originally posted by BENGAL4: To which god are you referring to? The god of paintball?

The one that works with me.

quote Who do you shoot first, the women or the kids?

Kids are VERY hard to hit.