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Recall of some Firestone tires by 87ECO5
Started on: 08-09-2000 02:12 PM
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Report this Post08-09-2000 02:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 87ECO5Send a Private Message to 87ECO5Direct Link to This Post
For those of us with Firestone tires on our sport utility vehicles:

http://my.aol.com/specials/story.tmpl?newsid=tires

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Report this Post08-09-2000 02:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 87ECO5Send a Private Message to 87ECO5Direct Link to This Post
Here's the article:

WASHINGTON (AP) - Bridgestone/Firestone Inc. announced Wednesday a voluntary safety recall of 6.5 million tires for light trucks and sport utility vehicles that have been scrutinized in connection with 46 deaths.

The company said the recall involves all size P235/75R15 Firestone radial ATX and radial ATX II tires produced in North America, and Wilderness AT tires produced at the company's Decatur, Ill., plant.

The company said about 14.4 million of these tires have been produced. The recall follows a yearlong investigation that focused on accident reports involving tire failures, mainly in Southern states while driving in hot weather.

``The company estimates that the number of tires still in use and involved in the recall is 6.5 million, which includes 3.8 million radial ATX and ATX II tires and 2.7 million Wilderness AT tires,'' the statement said.

``At Bridgestone/Firestone, nothing is more important to us than the safety of our consumers,'' said Gary Crigger, Bridgestone/Firestone executive vice president.

Crigger said the recall would be conducted in three phases with the first replacements to be offered in Arizona, California and Texas, followed by a second phase in Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, Oklahoma and Tennessee. Recall will follow in the rest of the country after that.

No timetable was given for completion of the recall. The company gave no indication of how much it will cost. Customers will be notified of the recall by mail, said Crigger. The company also has opened a toll-free telephone line: 1-800-465-1904.

``We felt we must take this extraordinary step as a precaution to ensure consumer safety and consumer confidence in our brands,'' Crigger said. ``So, no matter how many tires, no matter how many miles they have on them, we will replace them with new tires.''

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has received 270 complaints, including reports of 46 deaths and 80 injuries, about failing Firestone truck tires.

The complaints allege that Firestone tires peel off their casings, sometimes while the vehicles are traveling at high speeds. The mounting safety concerns have prompted Discount Tire, Montgomery Ward and Sears Roebuck and Co. to stop selling the tires.

A majority of the complaints involved tires installed on the Ford Explorer sport utility vehicle. Some 3.6 million Explorers have been sold with Firestone tires. Ford dealers will be involved in the recall; about 2,500 of them are also Firestone dealers.

Most of the accidents reported to NHTSA came from states in warm climates, where heat can affect tire tread bonding and may be associated with an increased rate of tread separation.

``We have not determined what if any problems there may be with the design and manufacture of these tires,'' said Crigger. But he suggested that the failures may be connected with underinflation of the tires in connection with hot driving conditions.

Crigger also said the company's Decatur plant ``is overrepresented in the accident reports,'' suggesting a possible production concern with the tires produced there.

Ford has already replaced Firestone tires for free on vehicles sold in Venezuela, Ecuador, Thailand, Malaysia, Colombia and Saudi Arabia after tires failed in those countries. The company resisted pressure to do so in the United States, saying the matter was under investigation.

General Motors Corp., Nissan Motor Co., Toyota Motor Corp. and Subaru also sell the Firestone ATX, ATX II and Wilderness AT tires as original equipment on SUVs and pickups. All have said they have received no complaints about the tire.

Crigger said his company has worked closely with Ford and NHTSA to determine the cause of accidents involving vehicles with Brigestone/Firestone tires.

He said the data show that while accidents involving such tires are rare considering the millions of tires produced:

The number of reported incidents with tire size P235/75R15 is higher than with the other sizes in the lines.

The majority of the incidents have been in Southern states, including Arizona, California, Florida and Texas, which ``suggests there may be a direct correlation between heat and tire performance.''

``In addition, the abundance of concern surrounding these tires clearly indicates the need for this action,'' Crigger said.

Martin Inglis, vice president for Ford North America, said tires are one of the few features of a new vehicle that are under warranty by a supplier instead of the automaker.

``Any time a Ford customer is at risk in any shape or manner, we want to avoid any problems,'' Inglis said.

In 1978, Firestone recalled 14 million of its 500-series tires that had tread separations and blowouts. Federal regulators fined the former Firestone Tire & Rubber Co. $500,000 then for concealing the safety problems.

Firestone nearly went bankrupt after that recall and was subsequently bought by Bridgestone Corp. in 1988.

On the Net:

Bridgestone/Firestone: http://www.bridgestone-firestone.com

Ford Motor Co.: http://www.ford.com

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Report this Post08-09-2000 04:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for deceler8Send a Private Message to deceler8Direct Link to This Post
From what I've heard, the failure rate on Explorers may be much higher than for other makes of vehicles for the simple reason that Ford's recommended tire pressure on Explorers is only 26 PSI.

That might provide maximum traction in low-speed off road conditions, which is what an Explorer is built for, but not for high speed highway driving, which is how most Explorers spend their lives.

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Report this Post08-10-2000 02:40 AM Click Here to See the Profile for MonkeymanSend a Private Message to MonkeymanDirect Link to This Post
Umm...deceler8. About the only 4x4 I can think of that was designed as an off road vehicle is the AM General Hummer. That started out as a military vehicle as a replacement for the 1/4 ton (Jeep). The rest were designed for grocery getting, even the current Jeeps. BTW--I had a chance to pilot (drive just doesn't work here) the military version of the Hummer (HMMVV) while I was in the Army. Wow! What an experience. If you can't get there in a Hummer, you need a helicopter. No joke. You can take a Hummer places you can't even walk to. Try walking up a 50* incline. Almost impossible. You can drive a Hummer up/down or sideways on the same hill without fear. Been there, done that. If I had an extra 70G, I'd buy one in a heartbeat.
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Dooooh! Duplicate post

[This message has been edited by DJRice (edited 08-10-2000).]

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While I wholly admit that most SUVs are used for Grocery getting, they are still designed around some off-road use.

Jeeps certainly arent built like they use to be, nowadays youll find shocks and struts where 15 years ago you would have found leaf springs, but there are plenty of people who do get their trucks dirty someplace other that that trecherous (insert your local grocery store chain here) parking lot.

I have a Jeep Grand Cherokee, and I admit that it spends most of its time on Asphalt, and I do drive it to the grocery store, but there have been several times where I was very glad to have what Car and Driver calls still one of the most capable SUVs on the market. Its gotten me out of several very 'sandy' situations on our beach construction site. And during Hurricane season here in Florida, High ground clearance is a good thing especially if you live on the coast.

BTW, I have Goodyear Wranglers...

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Report this Post08-10-2000 10:29 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 2M4 DaleSend a Private Message to 2M4 DaleDirect Link to This Post
About 20 years ago I installed a brand new set of Firestone 721 radials on my 69 Catalina convertible just before heading to W.Va.. I had two..count 'em, two good spares in the trunk of that car when I left. On the way down I77 I had three sidewall blow outs. Four new tires and two good spares and Firestone still left me stranded on the freeway. BUY GOODYEAR !!!
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Report this Post08-10-2000 11:04 AM Click Here to See the Profile for MonkeymanSend a Private Message to MonkeymanDirect Link to This Post
7...around 2...wrapped by 1.
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Report this Post08-10-2000 03:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreDirect Link to This Post
Ah yes, the 721...... Firestone did the same song and dance back then to. I think the only thing that got them recalled then was the feds. I wasn't suprised when the "voluntary" recall came out a couple days ago. It was only a matter of time before the NTSB or CPSC got on them.
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