http://www.ricecop.com/view_gpic.php?id=2132&c=954&make=Pontiac&model=Fiero&p=000954-01.jpg Uh huh.......

Nope, like I told you on AIM.....I like it, I'd take off the side graphics(just not my style). But I do think that wing looks real good, would love to see it with the decklid down and hood shut.

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[This message has been edited by Musmaro13 (edited 05-07-2005).]

The wing is standard rice-issue - I think it's the 'diploma' you receive upon graduation from the Rice Academy.

The graphics are just graphics - probably adhesive vinyl, just peel 'em off. They're not my style, but they themselves don't particularly say 'rice' to me.

Other than that, seems like a normal Fiero.

I know this Fiero and have met the owner a few times. He has gone to some of the shows I have gone to like a couple of the past NEFA "FINE" shows. He always seems to be trying to new things and his Fiero is his test car so to speak.
You can't really see any of things he has done like I am talking about in this pic but those members who have seen his Fiero at a show and talked to him know what I am talking about.
I like it in general because it shows something a bit different and because I know it is good for the Fiero community to have people like this always willing to try something new. I am not a big fan of the rear spoiler or his graphics, the decals look a bit sloppy for lack of a better term but he likes his Fiero and to each his own. He is making it unique and his own with a look unlike anything else so it is in that sense that I like it. One more Fiero lover in the world is always a good thing
He has even won the hardship award a few times with a bad tire blow out on the way to a show one time for example.

Edit: You can see a few more pics of it here:
http://www.dirtyratracing.org/fine03.htm
You have to scroll thru it a bit to find them.
I think the first pic that you will see of his Fiero is an engine (4 cyl) and trunk shot showing his nitrous, a playstaion and amp/speakers in the trunk.

Is it rice? In my opinion no.

Steve

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[This message has been edited by Fiero5 (edited 05-07-2005).]

I dont like the wing and Dont like the graphics. So yes to me I would call it a rice. But I only like it becouse it is a fiero

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To me that wing is everything that rice stands for. The graphics are hard for me to read but I suppose they are there for looks not for reading right? Probably the folks at ricecop (a good site btw) also think the front hood is an aftermarket item not the stock hood it is on a Fiero.... just a guess.

Is it rice? I would say yes.

Is it still a Fiero? I would say yes.

The graphics and the wing are really what make it so. I have seen Fieros that are riced much worse than that. There are a couple in the photo gallery that Fiero5 linked to, even. Rice isn't about what you like or don't like. He's got NOS on a 4-banger, a bunch of amps, a game cube, and presumably some place to view video from said cube, as well. I wouldn't necessarily call anything I see in those pics "trying out new things". Large stereo systems with video game consoles, NOS on really small engines, and ugly wings and graphics are things that have been done for a long time. I remember the early 90s when all the mini-truckers had 4-color game boys hooked up to 9" TVs in their trucks. The 10 10" subs made all the little bleeps sound choice too. And kids have been blowing up Hondas with shots of N2O for years too.

Maybe he's done more than those pics let on, but from the pics, it is rice.

Yes, plain and simple it's rice.

Rice typically includes: High "wing" , stickers of parts you dont have, "fartcan" exhaust, unfunctional vents or scoops.

I think anything that has to say Exteme really isn't, and anything that is usually doesn't. The wing is not the style that I'd like to see but I don't have a problem with it, the side graphics are ok, but I would really consider a change in rims to give it that umph that the graphics deserve. Hard to tell what it says on the windshield and sail panel. After the rims, I'd put in a cool hood scoop. This would really pump up the side graphics!

What it really needs to accent the wing is a new nose and larger rims/tires. The graphics wouldn't be as bad if they didn't have the text. Rolling billboard == rice. Especially unreadable text that crosses several boundaries of moulding/cutting, which these do. And probably get rid of the triangle piece coming off the wheelwell altogether. I guess the sail panels say "Boomin Industries" as the side graphics do. The windshield vinyl says "Extreme Ink" in another really bad font. AFAICT, there are 4-5 different typefaces in use on the car (including the factory badging). The wing would be better if it were closer to the decklid, as well. I don't think any hood scoops would help much, if any.

quote Originally posted by F-I-E-R-O: I think anything that has to say Exteme really isn't, and anything that is usually doesn't. The wing is not the style that I'd like to see but I don't have a problem with it, the side graphics are ok, but I would really consider a change in rims to give it that umph that the graphics deserve. Hard to tell what it says on the windshield and sail panel. After the rims, I'd put in a cool hood scoop. This would really pump up the side graphics!

Depends ...Does It Have Its Stock 4cyl ...If So Then Yes Rice

quote Originally posted by Fiero5: I know this Fiero and have met the owner a few times. He has gone to some of the shows I have gone to like a couple of the past NEFA "FINE" shows. He always seems to be trying to new things and his Fiero is his test car so to speak. I like it in general because it shows something a bit different and because I know it is good for the Fiero community to have people like this always willing to try something new. I am not a big fan of the rear spoiler or his graphics, the decals look a bit sloppy for lack of a better term but he likes his Fiero and to each his own. He is making it unique and his own with a look unlike anything else so it is in that sense that I like it. One more Fiero lover in the world is always a good thing Is it rice? In my opinion no. Steve

I think it is a very well kept Fiero, and give the owner props for that, however, putting a tin wing and graphics on a car (of any make/model) isn't quite "trying something new".....It's more like something that many many people are doing. Just because it's on a Fiero it doesn't make it unique. I find it takes the unique characteristics away from the car, because it's an attempt to mesh it with a fad or craze.

I like the car(minus the handle bar and graphics) because it's a Fiero, and it's clean, and I'm glad he likes it and takes care of it.....To me it doesn't suit the car at all. But hey, whateva the driver likes eh?
edited for punctuation.

p.s.- yeah it's kinda ricey, but i've seen way worse, glad the owner was able to keep it minimal...then again i haven't seen it at night, or heard it

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[This message has been edited by LITEDAZE (edited 05-07-2005).]

Maybe he swapped it for a JDM N/A toyo motor straight from a junkyard in japan? I guess it's not rice then. It doesn't have to be a 4banger to be rice. I've seen plenty riced out pony cars and other stuff. A stock 4banger doesn't make it rice. Especially if there's a 150 shot of N20 on it. It does look and smell like rice otherwise though. A hint of rice isn't too bad, but overdoing it is. It's a side item, not a main course. Personally, some things can actually be useful, like better air intake/outlets in the body, or a sunshade across the windshield. Some of the bodies I've seen actually do look nice, until you cover them with stickers and funky paint jobs that were designed while tripping balls in the parking lot at BK. The sun getting in my eyes is very bad, and helping our cars cool a little better is always a good thing. However, it is easy to overdo some things, especially the wing and nose. I plan on adding a little bit of the ricer look to my car actually. All the little kids in Hondas or Mustangs that will think my car is too slow, will get a nice little surprise when I pop the N* that I plan on dropping in the car, into 2nd gear, and I'm gone.

-- dobey

quote Originally posted by ZeroC: Depends ...Does It Have Its Stock 4cyl ...If So Then Yes Rice

quote Originally posted by LITEDAZE: I think it is a very well kept Fiero, and give the owner props for that, however, putting a tin wing and graphics on a car (of any make/model) isn't quite "trying something new".....It's more like something that many many people are doing. Just because it's on a Fiero it doesn't make it unique. I find it takes the unique characteristics away from the car, because it's an attempt to mesh it with a fad or craze.

Like I said, I am not a fan of that style wing or the way he did the graphics either, and more importantly that is not what I was refering to when I said he has or had done new things. If you go and look at the FINE '02 pics or even find some old FOCONE fall show pics from the year before in 2001 you will see that he was there with that Fiero 4 years ago and back then there were fewer if any with some of the things he has or had done with his Fiero at that time. Just because a pic of his Fiero pops up now and everyone says that some of those things have already been done certainly doesn't mean that he just did them himself a few weeks ago. There were a lot of people looking at his Fiero over 4 years ago oohing and aaahing and saying how some of the things in his Fiero were pretty cool ideas as at that time (at least for many who saw it then) they were new ideas. His presentation may not be the best I agree.

quote I like the car(minus the handle bar and graphics) because it's a Fiero, and it's clean, and I'm glad he likes it and takes care of it.....To me it doesn't suit the car at all. But hey, whateva the driver likes eh? edited for punctuation. p.s.- yeah it's kinda ricey, but i've seen way worse, glad the owner was able to keep it minimal...then again i haven't seen it at night, or heard it

Agreed

Back in the early to late 70's every Hot Car had stickers on them.
Thrush, Moon, Accel, Champion etc.
So I guess my 69 RoadRunner was a Ricer
Or maybe even the Daytona 500 cars with the Big A$$ wing were
the original ricer's

And besides what's wrong with a Ricer.
I like there contests beats the heck outta bunch Old guys
http://ndra.nopi.com/ndra_2k4/2k4_gallery/va/Swimsuit/index.html

And on another note it's his car he has to drive it not anyone else,
beats the hell outta those Primered half done fiero's I've seen.

[This message has been edited by carolinajoe (edited 05-07-2005).]

A skewed view, does not an original design make. It might be new to people who sit around and stare at Fieros all day. That doesn't mean it hasn't been done to other cars, any number of years prior to it. I'm actually surprised I haven't seen the green monster that you made up for your kid, on any of the rice sites. I was at Louisville in 2000, and there were plenty of modded cars there. Some I would call ricey, some I wouldn't. I actually cruised there with the then-owner of KameoKid's car. I would say that the exterior of the car is fine, but the interior is definitely rice. It's way overdone. I think KameoKid has plans to get rid of the lego-block colored interior though. It was a nice GT aside from that though. It had plenty of stickers, but they were all custom cut. They weren't a mismatched bunch of fonts, thrown into the same graphic, in order to promote some local club or company. It was a Fiero that I would totally have been glad to own, minus the interior.

On the other hand, the purple/blue-ish N* that Chris Moore had there, I didn't like at all. It had a big round ricer wing, and ugly hood vents. The interior looked ok though, and it had a N*. I would totally have been glad to own it, minus the exterior.

Rice comes in many flavors. I've seen many imports done up nicely as well, and I wouldn't call all of them rice either, assuming the lack of the can-of-bees exhaust system.

quote Originally posted by Fiero5: Like I said, I am not a fan of that style wing or the way he did the graphics either, and more importantly that is not what I was refering to when I said he has or had done new things. If you go and look at the FINE '02 pics or even find some old FOCONE fall show pics from the year before in 2001 you will see that he was there with that Fiero 4 years ago and back then there were fewer if any with some of the things he has or had done with his Fiero at that time. Just because a pic of his Fiero pops up now and everyone says that some of those things have already been done certainly doesn't mean that he just did them himself a few weeks ago. There were a lot of people looking at his Fiero over 4 years ago oohing and aaahing and saying how some of the things in his Fiero were pretty cool ideas as at that time (at least for many who saw it then) they were new ideas. His presentation may not be the best I agree.

quote Originally posted by dobey: A skewed view, does not an original design make. It might be new to people who sit around and stare at Fieros all day. That doesn't mean it hasn't been done to other cars, any number of years prior to it. I'm actually surprised I haven't seen the green monster that you made up for your kid, on any of the rice sites. They weren't a mismatched bunch of fonts, thrown into the same graphic, in order to promote some local club or company. It was a Fiero that I would totally have been glad to own, minus the interior.

It sometimes can be new to those who see it first and to those who do it first even if unknown to them or anyone else that it has or had been done by even someone else somewhere else earlier than that too.
I remember seeing the mecham side scoops for the first time at a show back in the late 1990's and drooling all over them and finding out later on that he wasn't actually the first to have made or purchased them and installed them on a Fiero. Didn't matter to me. He was the first to me in the aspect that it inspired me onto a few of my future Fieros way back then. Skitime talks about a certain Fiero owned by Jeff Deday(sp?) that inspired him to want and get what he has now. Doesn't make Jeffs car a first in some areas by any means (maybe he was-who knows) but that Fiero still inspired Skitime even more (a new want to be Fiero owner at the time) to not only get into the Fiero world but get an '88 T-Top GT. And look where he is now
Dave apparently oohed and aahed over Jeffs Fiero. What I'm trying to say is, that it doesn't always have to be important about who was THE first person to ever have technically done something for the first time. Maybe the guy with this white Fiero with the questionable graphics and tin wing might not have been THE first in the world with some of these things, but he was first to at least those of us who were exposed to and saw them for the first time
So maybe he was or maybe he wasn't THE first on some of these things, the point is that he was quite possibly the first in our Fiero show area anyway with some of them, and once again I am not talking at ALL about the wing or the graphics here.
I agree that many of the mods we do hark back to an earlier age of cars and many of the scoops, vents, graphics, heck even the nitrous are reminiscent of many of the customized cars from the 50', 60's and 70's or even earlier in some cases. Some things that become old can become new again.

I hope this doesn't get beat to death. As with many Fieros including my son Jordans, some may like it, some may think it is ok, some may appreciate the work and ideas at least and some may not like it all. Bottom line is that the owner likes it and enjoys it and ultimately that is the only thing that truly matters in the end.

[This message has been edited by Fiero5 (edited 05-07-2005).]

Ok, I'm just curious... Fiero5, your saying how innovative and "first" some of his ideas were, but doesn't include the wing or decals. Maybe I'm missing something but besides the wing and decals, I see a stock fiero?

quote "What I'm saying is, that it maybe the guy with this Fiero with the ok graphics and tin wing might have been THE first with some of these things, but he was first to those of us who saw them for the first time to us And he was certainly first in our area with some of them (and again I am not talking at ALL about the wing or the graphics here) . "

That's fine. He can drive it if he wants. The question isn't about whether or not HE likes it. It's about whether or not people on this forum would call it rice. I was just correcting your misconceptions about how "first" works. Whether or not his car is the first one ever that you had seen that stuff on, is irrelevant to whether or not it is rice. It seems like you are trying to defend the owner's choices, instead. You say it isn't rice. I say it is. Fine. I'm sure the owner could care less about either of our two opinions. If he cared a lot about what other people think, he probably wouldn't drive it like that. Hell, he might not even drive a Fiero at all, at that point. You know, those things catch fire. But yes, he probably does like his car somewhat. And, we've both provided our feedback upon the question.

quote Originally posted by Fiero5: I hope this doesn't get beat to death. As with many Fieros including my son Jordans, some may like it, some may think it is ok, some may appreciate the work and ideas at least and some may not like it all. Bottom line is that the owner likes it and enjoys it and ultimately that is the only thing that truly matters in the end.

It's rice.

Can someone post just a pic of the car with out the link! All I get when I click the link is a little red x. Tks.

this is stictly opinion but it looks more ghetto than rice...wait ghetto-rice. the wing looks like a standard rice wing, it doesn't seem to match the car well, looks like the stock rims have been spray painted or something, not to mention those firebird style wheels are an abomination to begin with, the tear decals are too big for that car and that windshield banner has got to go. the 1/4 decals, eh maybe they can stay.

some1 plz buy that guy's car and give it some dignity.

[This message has been edited by dohcfiend (edited 05-08-2005).]

nitrous? in a 4cyl? i wonder what size jet he is running....

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quote Originally posted by Fiero5: I know this Fiero and have met the owner a few times.

Does this suprise me..?? No
Do Most rice/owned Fiero talk...?? Yes!

quote Originally posted by Gokart: Can someone post just a pic of the car with out the link! All I get when I click the link is a little red x. Tks.

cannot possibly be rice, documented evidence -

vin number = 1G(somethin)

what you are debating is whether this is rice want-to-be.
have to say it looks to be sliding that way.

quote Originally posted by Fiero5: It sometimes can be new to those who see it first and to those who do it first even if unknown to them or anyone else that it has or had been done by even someone else somewhere else earlier than that too. I remember seeing the mecham side scoops for the first time at a show back in the late 1990's and drooling all over them and finding out later on that he wasn't actually the first to have made or purchased them and installed them on a Fiero. Didn't matter to me. He was the first to me in the aspect that it inspired me onto a few of my future Fieros way back then. Skitime talks about a certain Fiero owned by Jeff Deday(sp?) that inspired him to want and get what he has now. Doesn't make Jeffs car a first in some areas by any means (maybe he was-who knows) but that Fiero still inspired Skitime even more (a new want to be Fiero owner at the time) to not only get into the Fiero world but get an '88 T-Top GT. And look where he is now Dave apparently oohed and aahed over Jeffs Fiero. What I'm trying to say is, that it doesn't always have to be important about who was THE first person to ever have technically done something for the first time. Maybe the guy with this white Fiero with the questionable graphics and tin wing might not have been THE first in the world with some of these things, but he was first to at least those of us who were exposed to and saw them for the first time So maybe he was or maybe he wasn't THE first on some of these things, the point is that he was quite possibly the first in our Fiero show area anyway with some of them, and once again I am not talking at ALL about the wing or the graphics here. I agree that many of the mods we do hark back to an earlier age of cars and many of the scoops, vents, graphics, heck even the nitrous are reminiscent of many of the customized cars from the 50', 60's and 70's or even earlier in some cases. Some things that become old can become new again. I hope this doesn't get beat to death. As with many Fieros including my son Jordans, some may like it, some may think it is ok, some may appreciate the work and ideas at least and some may not like it all. Bottom line is that the owner likes it and enjoys it and ultimately that is the only thing that truly matters in the end.

What do you mean..??

Well, there goes the neigbhorhood, just when ya think the experiments is over. NOT
To me, I find it yuk! Those spoilers being on rice burners (wanabe sport cars)

The wing makes it rice. I don't mind the graphics but the wing is butt-ugly to me, and its useless.

quote Originally posted by Musmaro13:

Another red x Thanks for tryin'.

some of you need to learn how to use photobucket. It's really easy

1. right click save image as
2. browse for picture.
3. upload.
4. copy text and paste.

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Ashes to ashes, dust to dust......

Another Fiero goes the way of a dog being used as a test dummy for 6 year old girls with their mommies' make-up kit.

Do you have one of these installed? If so, you need a good spankin'!

Car Whistle

[This message has been edited by F-I-E-R-O (edited 05-09-2005).]

Rice is neat, when used spareingly. Just don't go all willy nilly with it --->

Here's what mine looked like when I bought it. I lost the wing and replaced it with a luggage rack. A plain deck lid is on it now. Yeah, it was rice.

Deitz

quote Originally posted by netpro55: If you are stupid enough to put one on your car your an idiot lol. Just so you know I am black, and if you watch that video you will see, of course what the news always does. They find the 2 most retarded black people in the town and put them on tv, just so you know in real life no one actually talks or acts like that or even looks like that, but you will have posers like the two in the video. I apologize on behalf of all the african and black people in the US. lol the people on that tape were obviously crazy

LMAO did you see them go speeding off across double yellow lines and blow through a stopsign where a car was pulling out?

quote Originally posted by Deitz: Here's what mine looked like when I bought it. I lost the wing and replaced it with a luggage rack. A plain deck lid is on it now. Yeah, it was rice. Deitz

where are you located at in charleston WV?

im just around the bend in spring hill, on spring hill mountain, about a mile from south charleston high school

quote Originally posted by Kohburn: LMAO did you see them go speeding off across double yellow lines and blow through a stopsign where a car was pulling out?

Thats what happens When you give retarded black people an old toyota supra+chrome rims+ news coverage=Lil john and the ying yang twins. lol