This is what I been working on along with the GT40. Nothing on this kit fits where its supposed to go, almost like building from scratch. Fiero based kit, Fiero drivetrain.
For every customer that "Will never buy anything from them again" there are 2 kids sitting in H.S. Autoshop class thinking "They advertize in the magazine, they can't lie in an advertisement, the magazine wouldn't let them".
Archie
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jelly2m8 Member
Posts: 6296 From: Nova Scotia, Canada Registered: Jul 2001
Roger i can tell you that those pilars on the door itself need to go. The real car does not have pilars like that.
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2M4 Dale Member
Posts: 3461 From: Mansfield,Oh,U.S. Registered: Oct 1999
Roger i can tell you that those pilars on the door itself need to go. The real car does not have pilars like that.
That's why I don't build replicas any more, there's always someone there to tell you what the "Real" car has.
Hey!!!! Maybe Roger already knows that & maybe he don't care. Maybe he made a decision to do it his way.
Not trying to flame you here, but the guy has a LOT of time and money invested in this. Wouldn't you think that He's done a little research too?
Sorry but you pushed one of my buttons. The guy can build a 99.9% accurate replica and aon someone will come along and tell him he has the "wrong" sized tires on it.
Anyway Roger, I like what you've done so far, but those pilars have got to go.
Archie
P.S. build a Fino or Finale and no one will be able to tell you that you did a feature wrong.
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FieroMaster88 Member
Posts: 7680 From: Mattawan, MI Registered: Nov 2000
That's why I don't build replicas any more, there's always someone there to tell you what the "Real" car has.
Hey!!!! Maybe Roger already knows that & maybe he don't care. Maybe he made a decision to do it his way.
Not trying to flame you here, but the guy has a LOT of time and money invested in this. Wouldn't you think that He's done a little research too?
Sorry but you pushed one of my buttons. The guy can build a 99.9% accurate replica and aon someone will come along and tell him he has the "wrong" sized tires on it.
Anyway Roger, I like what you've done so far, but those pilars have got to go.
Archie
P.S. build a Fino or Finale and no one will be able to tell you that you did a feature wrong.
Wow, I was just going to type up something similar. Took the words right out of my mouth.
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Posts: 16083 From: Hillsborough, NJ U.S.A. Registered: May 2000
What amazes me is that the Diablo Kits while being so expensive don't go together or even fit the Fiero frame all that well. I've always been fond of the Lambo style rebody but most kits that I've seen leave much to be desired,.... plus you have to weld in a completely new roof. It's a shame that for all that money Warlock cannot supply a top quality product. Good luck with project.
A buddie of mine is building a Countach kit (non stretched) and the amount he had to fabricate himself was unreal. I have been watching his build up for over a year now (he is 99% done) and the only thing that went on the kit the way it was supposed to was V8Archies master build kit!
But, aren't you working on a GT40 replica? Sorry, had to push you buttons.
Yeah, you got me there.
The difference is that my GT40 is going to be Turn-Key or "Roller" only & is not going to be available as a kit.
Our body will be correct purportions & size externally. I'm hoping that it will be a performance car judged on it's own merrit like the new Ford GT and the NAF GT40 Fiero based kit. Neither of them are exact replicas either.
Archie
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JacobHaley Member
Posts: 269 From: Columbus, OH Registered: Feb 2003
I never thought I'd like a Lambo kit until I saw this at Roger's the other day. It looks good now, it will be great I'm sure by the time he's done with it!
Anyone want to guess what I told him when I saw those pillars??
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G-Nasty Member
Posts: 2099 From: woodlands,TX,USA Registered: Jan 2001
Looks great Roger-theres also a bunch of pros on Ari's that have tricks on trim, windshields etc. for these cars. Diablos are some of the wildest rides around. Very few other cars have the lines these do- In your stable-that Diablo takes the cake Good Luck and keep us posted OUT>
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jstricker Member
Posts: 12956 From: Russell, KS USA Registered: Apr 2002
Actually, Archie and I had a LONG conversations about just this subject before we ordered the Finale. I'm one of these people that would drive myself nuts making everything "correct" if I was building a replica. With a Fino/Finale or a few others, you just build the car you want. A much better (and more satisfying) undertaking, IMHO.
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Wow, I was just going to type up something similar. Took the words right out of my mouth.
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Lambykin Member
Posts: 619 From: Burlington, Ontario, Canada Registered: May 2003
I've never built a kit-car, but I know auto mechanics, and a little about fabricating. I can appreciate the time & effort that you've put into this project. It's far too easy for some people to be a critic...
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exoticse Member
Posts: 8655 From: Orlando, Fl Registered: Jun 2003
Great job that is gonna be one sweet ride ! Lamborghinis are my all time favorite exotic cars !
By the way, I wonder how many of those people that nit pick about the pillars and stuff would give one rats ass if you said ok the pillars are wrong,...you go ahead and take the car !!
They would take the keys and burn rubber out of your shop !
90%of the public has never even seen a lamborghini in person, let alone be able to distinguish fake from real, or even care for that matter...only just a few well,...I will let u fill in the blank,... lmao !!
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AusFiero Member
Posts: 11513 From: Dapto NSW Australia Registered: Feb 2001
Latest screw up to back up what Archie says. This idiot sent me what appears to be a Countach windshield instead of the right one. Be curious to see how long it takes to get the right one.
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rogergarrison Member
Posts: 49601 From: A Western Caribbean Island/ Columbus, Ohio Registered: Apr 99
just a correction to my thread title. I just found out that this is an Imaginary Glass kit NOT a Warlock as I was lead to believe. Im hoping that the Warlock kit is much better quality. It couldnt possibly be worse. They have assured me that the correct Diablo windshield will be here next week.
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2M4 Dale Member
Posts: 3461 From: Mansfield,Oh,U.S. Registered: Oct 1999
I've never built a kit-car, but I know auto mechanics, and a little about fabricating. I can appreciate the time & effort that you've put into this project. It's far too easy for some people to be a critic...
I agree 100%!! That's ALOT of work and I for one, can say... WOW!! Looking GREAT Roger...
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Smoooooth GT Member
Posts: 8823 From: Lake Palestine, Texas Registered: Jun 2001
My step dad started North American Exotic Replica Cars <www.exoticreplicacars.com> </shameless plug> because nobody had an exact enough kit for him, and I can totally appreciate what you're doing roger!
Great job!
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Smoooooth GT Member
Posts: 8823 From: Lake Palestine, Texas Registered: Jun 2001
This thread make's me wanna burn my Fiero to the ground and then pisss on it...
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just a correction to my thread title. I just found out that this is an Imaginary Glass kit NOT a Warlock as I was lead to believe. Im hoping that the Warlock kit is much better quality. It couldnt possibly be worse. They have assured me that the correct Diablo windshield will be here next week.
Hey roger, is Imaginary glass,.. IFG ? If so someone correct me if i am wrong but i think IFG used to be called Warlock.
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opm2000 Member
Posts: 1347 From: Versailles, Ky USA Heart of the Bluegrass Registered: Dec 2000
I think it's more like Warlock was bought out by IMG. BTW, the NAERC kits are currently the "exact-replica" nut's kit of choice right now.
For myself, the Diablo and the Countach for that matter have allways made my juices flow whenever I even got next to one. I have no hangups about exact-replica stuff. A wild assed hotrod that even looks like a Diablo will fill the bill for me.
Roger, that looks like a very nice paint job from what I can see. Did you do it? Can you tell us what color and kind of paint it is?
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Archie Member
Posts: 9436 From: Las Vegas, NV Registered: Dec 1999
just a correction to my thread title. I just found out that this is an Imaginary Glass kit NOT a Warlock as I was lead to believe. Im hoping that the Warlock kit is much better quality. It couldnt possibly be worse. They have assured me that the correct Diablo windshield will be here next week.
Warlock and IFG are one in the same.
Same location, body, molds owner.
Archie
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Archie Member
Posts: 9436 From: Las Vegas, NV Registered: Dec 1999
Ray is a nice enough guy, several years ago Ray started Warlock and another company called Thomas something to protect his non-Ferrari replica businesses from Ferrari & to try to improve the reputation of IFG.
Archie
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exoticse Member
Posts: 8655 From: Orlando, Fl Registered: Jun 2003
My step dad started North American Exotic Replica Cars <www.exoticreplicacars.com> </shameless plug> because nobody had an exact enough kit for him, and I can totally appreciate what you're doing roger!
Great job!
Wow fieroaudio,.You have the ins,..cause NAERC kits are the **** ! Do you have one of them yourself ?
D and R kits are pretty sharp also. Did your step dad build one for himself ?
A friend built an IFG Lambo. I wasn't too impressed with the lack of consistency between the left and right side. It was pretty far off on the right side especially at the rear. It took a lot of fixing to get it right.
Still, he got it on and it looks pretty nice. Of course you can't drive if you are over 5'8" but I guess that's part of the mystik, mystic, mystery, whatever.....
He just picked up the molds for this body kit. I'm not sure he's going to do anything with it. He said it's all bolt on panels (with some work).
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rogergarrison Member
Posts: 49601 From: A Western Caribbean Island/ Columbus, Ohio Registered: Apr 99
This one was pre painted. That was stupid for all the body mods you have to do to make parts fit. I will be doing a complete 'new' all over paint job in the same color. Its 2001 Chrysler Pearle Red. The paint job on it even if the body parts fit is terrible. Dale will testify, it looks like a bad Maaco painted it. It has a welded steel (1x1 box) tubing subframe in addition to the fiero floor pans and front and rear frame clips. The only part that fit reasonable well are the door into the door frames although there is a lot of side to side slop. Ill keep ya all posted as I go. A lot of what im doing now is getting hatch latches, tail lites, bumper reinforcement and such. Time consuming, but not worthy of photos.
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JacobHaley Member
Posts: 269 From: Columbus, OH Registered: Feb 2003