Ok...Just to check things out on the engine (3800sc) I am keeping the alt and PS pump in stock location for now so I can use the stock belt. My question is, do I just block off the ports or do I need to connect the in and out ports of the PS pump together so the fluid just circulates in the pump?

Thanks Steve

I imagine it needs to move fluid, but it might get too hot and thin in a loop like that. Maybe run it through an oil cooler ? It wouldnt be difficult to make a delete pulley or just re-route the belts, either way you need to buy a pulley, less then $10 and a belt that will fit.

For my 3.4 DOHC install I had the vanes taken out of the pump and capped the ports.

Thanks for the reply Mike. I am planning on using a delete pully in the future but its just that the car has been on the back burner for too long and I really would like to get it running so I can check the condition of the engine and transmission before dumping too much money into it right now.

After I am satisfied with everything, I am planning on dropping out the drivetrain again and finishing up on a few other things. Also I would LOVE to have the ability to just move the thing. Got to clean out my shed which is a pain with 2 cars in there.

I was just thinking that keeping some fluid in there it might be ok for short runs of the engine to check it out and move it around.

Anyother opinions?

Steve

quote Originally posted by sspeedstreet: For my 3.4 DOHC install I had the vanes taken out of the pump and capped the ports.

This is what I am doing for my LS4 swap....Pulling the guts and just letting is act as a pulley.....

quote Originally posted by MstangsBware: Why are you keeping the PS pump on a 3800 swap if not running PS? There are tons of ways around not using it...

Lazy for now and I have no access to things to fab up a bracket plus I dont want to waste the time. Im just throwing this stuff back on to check things for now and get it mobile.

When I finish things up I will most likely do a low mount alt in place of the PS pump.

Steve

Connect the output to the input.

Here is how to route the belt without the PS pump, you just need to replace the tentioner pulley with a grooved rather then smooth pulley. Belt length will probable be different then what I have on there, the engine I drew that for had a A/C delete pulley made for it.



Doing some reading it doesnt look like the PS pump depends on its fluid for lube or cooling, so connecting in to out should be fine if you still go that route.

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quote Originally posted by Mike Gonzalez: Here is how to route the belt without the PS pump, you just need to replace the tentioner pulley with a smooth rather then grooved pulley. Belt length will probable be different then what I have on there, the engine I drew that for had a A/C delete pulley made for it. Doing some reading it doesnt look like the PS pump depends on its fluid for lube or cooling, so connecting in to out should be fine if you still go that route.

Bingo....This has been talked about many times and it works great...Cost ya a ribbed pulley and new belt and you are done.....Works great as I have used it several times.....

I was looking at doing the routing this way but was not sure about the small amount of belt contacting the crank pully since it is the same belt running the waterpump.

Steve

quote Originally posted by JumpStart: I was looking at doing the routing this way but was not sure about the small amount of belt contacting the crank pully since it is the same belt running the waterpump. Steve

In case you missed it the several other times I have posted or the time above...I have used this setup many of times on cars with ZERO issues...Norsac on here is running this exact setup on his car and has been since it was completed....Since it was completed he has put the car thru the test of times by taking it to the track every other weekend...He has had no issues with it along with any other swaps that has been done using this routing. There is plenty of belt contact with the crank, it will not cause any issues, ect, ect........No reason to try to reinvent the wheel when there is already a good one out there.....

Yep - works great!

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I also use this routing, works great!