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a/c high side schrader valve by 87blackGT
Started on: 04-06-2006 07:49 PM
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Report this Post04-06-2006 07:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 87blackGTSend a Private Message to 87blackGTDirect Link to This Post
Anybody have an idea where I can get one and the tool to remove it? Mine is leaking. Was in Ogre's cave and saw the Motormite replacements and tool. However, I tried to order them through partsamerica yesterday. Today, I got an email saying that they are no longer available. No one else seems to carry them (or they try to sell me low side ones)

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Report this Post04-06-2006 08:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for flames4meSend a Private Message to flames4meDirect Link to This Post
isnt that the same thing as a tire valve? or am i thinking of the fuel schrader valve? if it is the same as a tire, just get a tire valve remover... like 5$ or less.

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Report this Post04-06-2006 08:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for spark1Send a Private Message to spark1Direct Link to This Post
There are tools like this one that allow you to replace the valve without losing your refrigerant charge but the cost (about $42) is probably more than a shop would charge to replace it for you.

ACkits.com has all the tools and valves.

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Report this Post04-06-2006 08:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for carnut122Send a Private Message to carnut122Direct Link to This Post
Same concept as the tire valve, but the AC valve is different in its construction. The last one I bought was from my Chevy dealer.
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Report this Post04-06-2006 08:22 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 87blackGTSend a Private Message to 87blackGTDirect Link to This Post
The low side one can be removed with the tire tool (I actually removed mine with a small pair of needle nose). The high side one, from what I have read, requires a special tool . My system is already empty.

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Report this Post04-06-2006 08:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for spark1Send a Private Message to spark1Direct Link to This Post
Here are some valve core pictures. (scroll down)

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Report this Post04-06-2006 08:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreDirect Link to This Post
If you are using R134, you must remove the OE valve and install an adaptor that has it's own valve. The last one I got was around $10 I think. See the stuff about this in my cave. You will want to use gas and oil rated thread sealer like the Super Cool product listed in my cave. The Tip of the OE vavle stem is often damaged and doesn't always get a good seal with the O ring in the adaptor valve.

If you have the simple adaptors that come with most R134 kits. DO NOT try to unscrew them. You need to carefully slot them on one side (parallel to the stem and without hitting the stem or threads.) and spread the cut. You might have to make two cuts. Don't use a nut splitter. The pressure it exerts can damage the stem.

Heat is often used to release thread locker products. Don't try that on this one. You can ruin the stem, orifice tube, and the hose. The orifice tube is just down the line from the high side fitting.

The OE valve is prone to leakage as it is. The problem relates to how the valve works. Even the smallest amount of damage to the fitting it's in will leak even with a new valve. Been there. Done that. More than once. I no longer repair it or recomend any one else bother.

If you are using R12... Even if you replace the valve, find a hard cap with gasket that screws on over it. Like your tire stem caps only alot better made. This will be a metal or very tough plastic part and provide a secondary seal.

Try contacting MotorMite via their web site. www.dormanproducts.com They may ahve changed the numbers or dropped the parts. I don't know of another easy source of the tool. I took a quick look at www.lislecorp.com but didn't see anything. Didn't look real hard tho. If you find a a tool, let me know so I can update my cave.

Many places no longer carry any R12 parts. Especially the chains. As I noted above, try independant stores or Franshizees of Car Quest etc. You may also need to try various vendors that sponcer www.aircondition.com

edit... The site linked above does cary the GM high flow valve. Their GA 1565 by the looks of it. But I don't think reaplacing the valve will help.

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Report this Post04-06-2006 10:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for spark1Send a Private Message to spark1Direct Link to This Post
The GM OEM number 5910609 crosses to ACDelco 15-5375. It was used in many GM cars from 1984 thru 1994. Should be an easy to find part.
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Report this Post04-06-2006 10:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jstrickerSend a Private Message to jstrickerDirect Link to This Post
It and the tool are also available from 4 seasons last I knew. Carquest sells them but I don't recall the brand that makes theirs at the moment.

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Report this Post04-06-2006 11:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 87blackGTSend a Private Message to 87blackGTDirect Link to This Post
Thanks for all the help so far.

Now that I have a part number (ac-delco), I can probably get the NAPA guys to get me one. Hopefully, they'll have the tool also. But as the Ogre stated, since I am converting, I should replace the valve with the adapter that has its' own valve. Anybody have a make, model, part number for that?

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Report this Post04-07-2006 02:44 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 3800superfastSend a Private Message to 3800superfastDirect Link to This Post
spark1 Thanks for the pic and web site...
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