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Best spark plugs ? by TejasFiero
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Report this Post03-18-2004 09:36 AM Click Here to See the Profile for TejasFieroSend a Private Message to TejasFieroDirect Link to This Post
I want to know which plugs are best for '88 4&6 cyl. engines.
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Report this Post03-18-2004 09:52 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Arns85GTSend a Private Message to Arns85GTDirect Link to This Post
Safe response is AD Delco factory specs.

There are silver core and platinum, but there is alot of debate about if they are worth the effort and additional cost.

If you are hopping up the engine at all, cold range are better than hot.

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Report this Post03-18-2004 10:32 AM Click Here to See the Profile for OreifClick Here to visit Oreif's HomePageSend a Private Message to OreifDirect Link to This Post
I use AC Delco Rapid fires. NGK UR5's are also good. 1FST2M6 dyno'd the NGK's and could actually see a gain. These are for the V-6. As for the 4-cyl, Stay with stock, The DIS system doesn't like some plugs. I know the Bosch Platnums don't work well with the 2.5L DIS system.
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Report this Post03-18-2004 10:53 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Scott-WaClick Here to visit Scott-Wa's HomePageSend a Private Message to Scott-WaDirect Link to This Post
Dittos on A/C Delco or NGK UR5. Personally I haven't had much success with Rapidfires, they've had issues in the few vehicles I tried them on. Unless vehicle is modified, stick with stock plug.
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Report this Post03-18-2004 12:16 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fie RoSend a Private Message to Fie RoDirect Link to This Post
NGK UR5. they are the best with the V6.

Champion's cracked and blew out of the heads several times. Never use those.

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I agree with the ngk UR5 I haven't had anyproblems with mine.
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Report this Post03-18-2004 12:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Formula88Send a Private Message to Formula88Direct Link to This Post
NGK UR5 on the V6. Not sure about the L4.
The UR5 made a noticeable difference in how smooth my engine ran as compared to good condition AC Delco plugs.
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The last plugs I bought were the Bosch Platinums +4's. I didn't really notice a diffrence in gas milage, or performance though. Has anybody else tried these plugs?
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Originally posted by Deabionni:

The last plugs I bought were the Bosch Platinums +4's. I didn't really notice a diffrence in gas milage, or performance though. Has anybody else tried these plugs?


From what ive heard about those they are nothing more than a waste of money... it might increase your compression by about .000000001 because of more metal?

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Report this Post03-18-2004 06:48 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonDirect Link to This Post
Multi tip plugs are just a gimick. Stick with any plug that has just one electrode. The spark will only go across one gap anyway. I do use Bosch single tip Platinums in all my cars with no problems. Usually good for 40-50K. Ones out of a Lincoln Town Car I had, were in for 170K and still looked fine. I have heard they dont work well with DIS ignition though.
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Report this Post03-18-2004 08:11 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FastIndyFieroClick Here to visit FastIndyFiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to FastIndyFieroDirect Link to This Post
I prefer Champion.

Spark plugs

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Report this Post03-18-2004 08:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FormulaGTSend a Private Message to FormulaGTDirect Link to This Post
I use AC regular or Rapid Fire. No problems. When I had an '86 2M4 (non dis ignition) I had problems with Bosch Platinum plugs. Missing under load! Shi* plugs!
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Report this Post03-18-2004 10:25 PM Click Here to See the Profile for doublec4Send a Private Message to doublec4Direct Link to This Post
Whats the proper gap for the V6?

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I prefer plain old A/C DELCO for most applications until you get to really high performance situations, then Bosch

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Report this Post03-18-2004 11:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for daniel87fierogtDirect Link to This Post
not to hijack this thread but since were on this spark plug topic and i was going to do a major tuneup next week i wondered if 6.50 a plug for the ngk iriduim is reasonable. This was on the internet that i got this cost.

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AC Delco.
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Report this Post03-19-2004 05:44 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RossTClick Here to visit RossT's HomePageDirect Link to This Post
Delco!!

for all of us old timers here, run dog run,put your tail between your legs and hide....

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One more vote for AC Delco
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Report this Post03-19-2004 02:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonDirect Link to This Post
I used Platinum on all mine like I said. I tried the AC Delcos last change for the hell of it. They started misfiring in less than 10K miles. Put my Platinum back in.........
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Report this Post03-19-2004 02:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dave GunsulSend a Private Message to Dave GunsulDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by doublec4:

Whats the proper gap for the V6?


Gap = 45.

I like Accel plugs myself. I've tried NGK's, stock delcos, rapidfires, and platinums but none of them ran as well as the Accel U-grooves do. They feel new for a long period of time where as the others seem to wear in after a while.

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This forum is becomming sooooooooo civalized! This topic was a major flame war a coupla years back.

Delco here. I also like Bosh Platinums, single electrode. I first used them in my VW's. I put a set of the Bosch 2 electrode tips in a T-Bird and they missed until I replaced them with Autolites. That was the end of multi-tip sparkplugs for me.

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Originally posted by webbee:
This forum is becomming sooooooooo civalized!

Too late... you jinxed it...

I stay with regular AC delco plugs... I've heard some bad things about platinum's - and have you seen the size of their tips!?! They look like they'd erode in 10 miles they're so thin.

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Report this Post03-19-2004 08:06 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonDirect Link to This Post
You dont have to gap Platinums, and like I said, even though the tip may be small it does last. I put my original Bosch in Ferraro when it was done. Used them till 75,000 miles. They still looked fine, but I tried Delcos. They started misfiring within a month or 2. Ones i took out of my old Lincoln at 170,000 miles (limo, lots of idleing) looked good enough to go another 100,000. Thats my story and Im sticking to it........
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what about those splitfires that the fiero store advertises? do they suck or something?
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YES, as does any other multi tip plug. Spark only goes across the closest one, the others just set there. $6.00 each verses $1.50 each too,
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Report this Post03-20-2004 10:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Capt FieroClick Here to visit Capt Fiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to Capt FieroDirect Link to This Post
So what plugs would you guys recomend for an MSD Ignition System, not just the coil. I have the MSD 6AL Box, MSD Superconductor 50ohm per foot wires and an MSD Blaster Coil. Oh and I do use the occasional Nitrous shot during the summer months. I had AC Delco plugs and fried em in about 3000 miles. I have heard bad things about MSD and platnium tipped plugs.
These UR5 plugs are they colder or hotter than the stock plug.

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Originally posted by Capt Fiero:

So what plugs would you guys recomend for an MSD Ignition System, not just the coil. I have the MSD 6AL Box, MSD Superconductor 50ohm per foot wires and an MSD Blaster Coil. Oh and I do use the occasional Nitrous shot during the summer months. I had AC Delco plugs and fried em in about 3000 miles. I have heard bad things about MSD and platnium tipped plugs.
These UR5 plugs are they colder or hotter than the stock plug.

i had the same problems with all my msd and the rest of the high perf. electric system . i burned through 3 sets of plugs , untill i tryed accel shorty header plugs . havent had a problem since

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Originally posted by Oreif:

I use AC Delco Rapid fires. NGK UR5's are also good. 1FST2M6 dyno'd the NGK's and could actually see a gain. These are for the V-6. As for the 4-cyl, Stay with stock, The DIS system doesn't like some plugs. I know the Bosch Platnums don't work well with the 2.5L DIS system.

Exactly what he said.

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Multitips plugs arnt bad, there just not worth the money. the spark will jump to the easiest path (most of the energy, but some will go to the other) But if one gets dirty or something, the other one is usually still there to take the spark. I have platinums in my 86 v6 and im gonna go to ac delcos, I dont like them, but thats personal preference.
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Originally posted by Dave Gunsul:

Gap = 45.

I love this place!
Just turned on the 'puter and did a search on "plug+gap".

Saved me from running upstairs and digging out the owners manual. (Strangely enough it's not in the shop manual.)

Thanks!

[EDIT] Sorry... One more vote for NGK UR5s.
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If I get rid of the comments which don't specifically identify a plug preference, the score is-
AC - 10; NGK - 7; Bosch - 2; Accel-1. So far most of the guys prefer the original AC which was the R42TS. Ed

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Here's my stock A/C plugs at 35k miles:

Basically any plug will work fine on the stock ignition system. The platinum plugs don't work on the DIS cars because it's a waste spark system that jumps the spark backwards on two of the plugs and that cause rapid failure.

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Originally posted by JazzMan:
Here's my stock A/C plugs at 35k miles:
JazzMan

Those look better than my first set of Champions after 35 miles!

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