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2.8 Auto 0-60 time? by jnsnet
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Report this Post05-08-2003 08:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jnsnetSend a Private Message to jnsnetDirect Link to This Post
Whats the best time or average time 0-60 with a 2.8 auto. I have an 87, just tuned it, new plugs, wires, coil, pickup coil and distributer. Can bearly make it in 10 seconds. This seems slow? I'm not read lining it but I'm pushing it hard.
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Report this Post05-08-2003 08:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Phil86SESend a Private Message to Phil86SEDirect Link to This Post
that seems really slow!
I wish i could help you but sorry, im not help here

hope you can figure it out

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Report this Post05-08-2003 08:51 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierogonracnSend a Private Message to fierogonracnDirect Link to This Post
I would check your exhaust. I know a lot of us have had catalytic converters go bad. I took out my cat only to find it's entire contents had already been emptied into my muffler which I then had replace as well but it certainly made a big difference in the end. Good luck to ya,

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Report this Post05-08-2003 11:14 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Mike MurphySend a Private Message to Mike MurphyDirect Link to This Post
The approximate time was around 6 to 7 seconds. Seems like 6.2 if I remeber some of my old specs from when I was a DSM for PMD in the 80's and kept up on the car mag reports.
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Report this Post05-09-2003 12:59 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fieromadmanClick Here to visit fieromadman's HomePageSend a Private Message to fieromadmanDirect Link to This Post
hmm.. a 5-speed can make it 0-60 in about 7.2 seconds i believe.. why would auto be faster!?

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Report this Post05-09-2003 01:56 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Mike MurphySend a Private Message to Mike MurphyDirect Link to This Post
Sorry I thought I said approximate time and now that you mention it I think it was 7.2 on a stock 5 speed. The auto would not be any quicker most likely but sometimes depends on the driver. 10 seconds is definetly a little slow.
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Report this Post05-09-2003 05:44 AM Click Here to See the Profile for opm2000Click Here to visit opm2000's HomePageSend a Private Message to opm2000Direct Link to This Post
0-60 in 7.4 sec, consistantly.

About four years ago I did a mild overhaul on my '86 2.8 auto. Nothing much more than a quality job done, no real hp enhancements.

Each year I put a 190 lb friend in the passenger seat with a stop watch, and we have averaged 0-60 in 7.4.

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Report this Post05-09-2003 09:25 AM Click Here to See the Profile for GTDudeDirect Link to This Post
Most of the magazines of the time that tested the GT 4 or 5 spds came up with times from 7.5 to 8.0.....most nearer 8.0 from a NEW car.

I consistently get 6.8 0-60 on mine, but have reason to believe that the engine may have been swapped to a 3.1.....but not sure. It runs better than any 2.8 I've ever driven.

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Report this Post05-09-2003 10:03 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis LaGruaSend a Private Message to Dennis LaGruaDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by GTDude:

Most of the magazines of the time that tested the GT 4 or 5 spds came up with times from 7.5 to 8.0.....most nearer 8.0 from a NEW car.

I consistently get 6.8 0-60 on mine, but have reason to believe that the engine may have been swapped to a 3.1.....but not sure. It runs better than any 2.8 I've ever driven.

Phil

I would have to concur with Phil on the 0-60 test times reported by the auto magazines like Car and Driver. However, many of the times laid down were done with professional drivers so you may not be able to duplicate them easily. The zero to sixty time is also heavily dependent on FDR. In theory the Four Speed 85 GT notchback being lighter in weight than the GT but with the 4.10 FDR should be the fastest However,I'm not sure that the V6 ever came with this FDR gearbox.

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Report this Post05-09-2003 11:17 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RotrexFieroClick Here to visit RotrexFiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to RotrexFieroDirect Link to This Post
I drove a 86 SE V6 for years...Around 10 sec is about right for 0-60 sec. They really were not as fast as quoted in the magazines. If anyone is interested I have it for sale.....

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Report this Post05-09-2003 11:26 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Paul TaylorClick Here to visit Paul Taylor's HomePageSend a Private Message to Paul TaylorDirect Link to This Post
Mine also consistantly pulls mid to late 6 seconds.
Only mods are -:
Tubular exhaust manifolds, 2 separate systems, no crossover pipe, no EGR and no CAT.
And pulled the restriction out of the bottom of the air filter box.
Thats with the 4 speed manual.

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Report this Post05-09-2003 12:08 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ManiMackSend a Private Message to ManiMackDirect Link to This Post
I haven't timed my 86se auto yet. If I was to guess I would say like high 7's to low 8's. Just by the cars I'm able to hang with .

It's in good shape engine and trannie wise too...

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Report this Post05-09-2003 12:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fformula88Send a Private Message to Fformula88Direct Link to This Post
I have run a best 0-60 in my auto 2.8 Formula of 8.65 seconds. It will run anywhere from upper eights to low nines depending on how well the motor is running that day. Thats not a magazine number, thats what the car will do if I lined up and timed it today. So be careful comparing it to magazine numbers, where they do whatever it takes to get the best time out of the car.

Speaking of that they do, I remember the review of the Honda S2000 when it came out. The magazine tester squeezed a 5.x run out of it to 60. They got that number by dumping the clutch on it from 7000K RPMS, or some similarly high number. If they didn't, the car was considerably slower. I don't think many owners of their S2000's are driving them like that. Just thought I'd share an example of how those numbers in the mags can be inflated... especially for the lower torque, high reving RPM cars.

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Report this Post05-09-2003 03:16 PM Click Here to See the Profile for kslishSend a Private Message to kslishDirect Link to This Post
My bone stock '87 GT runs 0-60 in 8.9 seconds consistantly according to a G-tech and also my old fashioned stopwatch method. And that GT has 120,000 miles and the motor is far past it's prime. Most seem to run in the mid-8's. If yours is truely taking 10 seconds, it's time to start looking the different systems (ignition, fuel delivery, engine internals, etc) over to find what is wrong. My coupe with the Iron Duke 4 banger and an auto hits 60 in the upper 10's.

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Report this Post05-09-2003 09:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Doug85GTSend a Private Message to Doug85GTDirect Link to This Post
0-60 times and 1/4 mile times.
http://web.missouri.edu/~apcb20/times.html

Stock Fieros are not very fast compared to today's cars.


1984 Pontiac Fiero S/E 10.9 17.8
1986 Pontiac Fiero GT 8.0 16.2
1988 Pontiac Fiero Formula 8.0 16.0
1988 Pontiac Fiero GT 8.7 16.4

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Report this Post05-09-2003 09:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for pred1tor83Send a Private Message to pred1tor83Direct Link to This Post
Mine is a stick so go ahead pass me up.

But for arguments sake, i run 6.7 sec in my 86 four speed fiero with a 95 camaro 3.4l, that was dumpin the clutch at 3k, and then ridein it to about 5k each gear, into third.

Somthing is amis w/ my motor though, it runs outa steam around 4k, so i think i have a plugged up muffler, cause when i took my cat off, low and behold there was hardly anything in there..... so i assume it is that....


BTW they are fast compared to todays car, considering if i put 500 dollars a mo. into the fiero i would spank my friends s2k, and considering he has no fun money, its all good for me.


Btw i rape him like a gorilla too 60


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Report this Post05-09-2003 10:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jnsnetSend a Private Message to jnsnetDirect Link to This Post
Thanks for the info, it gives me a goal to work for. Lower 9s even sounds good but I would be thrilled with 7.5. Its possible my cat is bad, the only thing I haven't checked is the full pump.

Thanks guys!!

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Report this Post05-10-2003 06:23 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 87FieroGTxClick Here to visit 87FieroGTx's HomePageSend a Private Message to 87FieroGTxDirect Link to This Post
My stock 85GT Auto ran 7.5 all day long with just plugs and minor tuneing Once I took out all the extra weight and ran 7.0 but I like to have a spare tire on the street . It's a 3.1 now and runs around 6.5 full.

Tuned right a V6 Fiero should run atleast 7.5 but then again almost none of us keep our cars in perfect tune.

I'm looking for high 4's when I get my V8 done


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Oh, and alot of times just bolting on new parts will make you slower.

I remember getting a hipower kit from a big name dealer for my old Chevelle 454 and we lost 30hp 50tq on the dyno.

Though After a few hours of dyno tuning we gained 50hp 75tq over baseline.

Just bolting on parts is a waste of time unless the old part is junk.

Dyno time is the BEST upgrade IMO.

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Report this Post05-10-2003 09:50 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis LaGruaSend a Private Message to Dennis LaGruaDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by pred1tor83:

Somthing is amis w/ my motor though, it runs outa steam around 4k, so i think i have a plugged up muffler, cause when i took my cat off, low and behold there was hardly anything in there..... so i assume it is that....

Sorry to get this post off topic but I just wanted to post some benefical info.
The 3.4L in a Fiero DOES run out of steam bigtime beginning at 4000 RPM. By 4500 RPM the engine is really laboring. By 5000 RPM you have no more power than the 2.8L. Apparently Wester's did a dyno run on the 3.4L and this was the finding. The stock Fiero plenum/manifold just cannot flow enough air to support a 207 CI engine. The only way around this is a different intake system or a turbo.

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Originally posted by 87FieroGTx:

Just bolting on parts is a waste of time unless the old part is junk.

Dyno time is the BEST upgrade IMO.

This statement is profoundly true! There is absolutely no substitute for your own test data.

While you're at it, spend the $100 for a factory service manual. (Then use it.) It's probably the best investment you'll ever make in your car.

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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:


The 3.4L in a Fiero DOES run out of steam bigtime beginning at 4000 RPM. By 4500 RPM the engine is really laboring. By 5000 RPM you have no more power than the 2.8L. Apparently Wester's did a dyno run on the 3.4L and this was the finding. The stock Fiero plenum/manifold just cannot flow enough air to support a 207 CI engine. The only way around this is a different intake system or a turbo.

Yes at 4000rpm the restriction of the Fiero intake starts coming into play. You also need to upgrade the ignition system. Most GM HEI systems (with distributor) seem to run up to about 4500rpm but then the spark seems to stagnate and you have a weak spark for the higher RPM's.

My 86 SE with a slightly modded 2.8L (bored intake, Sprint manifolds, trans shift kit, and advanced timing) was running about 7.2 seconds 0-60 (measured with G-tech).
Can't wait to see what my 3.4L does.

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Ok... Here we need to be careful and see what instrument people is using to measure 0-60. At least to me any stop watch, seat of the pants, won my neihgbor GT, etc. type of measurement is just pure BS good just for a gesstimate. Sorry. G-Tech & track slips are just the standard. I'm very skeptical of any below 7s 0-60 on a stock 2.8. Yes, out of 200K+ 2.8s out there some may be better than others but just a few. Stick cars depend a LOT on driver and launch. Saying all that, my best time for my stock 177K miles 2.8 auto Formula was 7.98s manual shifting at 6K rpm. When I added the 18" rims, F/X package, audio, dynamat, NX bottle 0-60 dropped to 8.7s. With bottle it drooped to 6.2s. With my stick shift red 3.4 Formula I have only managed 7.25s 0-60 with all the mods that you can imagine. Oh, and I forgot driver weight is important. Is not the same a heavy 285lbs person (don't ask who) than a 145lbs kido. Why do you think horse race jockeys are small & lightweight? To have more horse power!

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