Right now I only have the left side mold finished. Soon I will have the right side done. When they are ready they will come with the studs. They are made of urethane. Someone please post the pic here.
What do you think a fair price would be.
Here is the link. http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=141908&a=1039804&p=50341703&Sequence=0&res=high

hope this works for ya.

By the way, how high are they going to be? I have been wanting higher stands too.

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quote I have been wanting higher stands too.

Me too, me too! How much? When...when...when?

Those do look nice. Have you tested them for structural integrity? They're probably stronger than OEM. I knew some ingenius person would find a way to manufacture those. The ONE element of capitalism that is positive; creates ingenuity.

The ones in the picture are stock height. After I get those done I will work on som taller ones.
The material is a urethane based stuff. It is stronger than the real ones. I took a real one and smaked it down on the bench edge and pieces flew off. I took one of mine and did the same and it only put as little notch in it.
WHAT IS A FAIR PRICE. I know these are getting harder to find.

Keep up the good work. I am looking forward to being a customer. I too would like to see slightly taller stands.

Yes yes! must get new stands! Stock is perfect! when? How much?

That is the problem Im having. I need some input on a fair price for them.

well, I'd hate to tell ya, cause I'm always broke! hehe. but the stock stands go for $50 around and about, yours are stronger there for will more then likely last longer, and have bolts. (I think you said they came with bolts) I would say that if I have money, and wanted a good set, I would spend $75. but that's me, make sure to get more opinions on that. course a really great price would be like $20!!! LOL hope you get the higher ones going soon, I want some.

Just a little info from a third person consumer perspective. I have no intention of buying wing stands since both my Gt's have the wings removed BUT! If stock stands are going for $50 then I would not charge more than that, whether they are urethane or stronger or not doesn't really mean too much because wingstands aren't something that is subject to too much abuse, they just sit under your wing, they are mostly hidden from view, and unless you and your girlfriend decide to have a picnic on your wing they don't have too tuff of a job. I think a fair price would be $50 but if you sold them for $40 you would find more people buying from you than if you match the "going rate". Same reason why people like Rodney Dickman and AusFiero are becoming well known and respected, and also getting a lot of business. And other places (which I will not mention names), are instead developing bad raps for being greedy businessmen trying to rake in huge profits rather than helping the Fiero community and making some cash on the side.

I agree with fyrstarter. I inquired with Design1 as to why their Northstar kit cost as much as other places do the entire conversion for, including labor. They haven't returned my email. That's also why as I'm parting my car, I will match other prices or sell for less. If people learn you're a gouge, they'll ignore you forever, even if you lower your prices they'll be sceptical of quality or something else. You have good looking parts, don't blackmale PFF by wringing out every cent. Wait till you make the higher stands then rape 'em!

Not to crap on your party, but you might want to think about disclaiming your wing stands for road use. I would sell them as off road use only. What are you going to tell the court one day when you're being sued for product liability, and they ask you what kind of stress testing you did? Are you gonna tell 'em you did the ole hammer test? Since the wing could fly off and harm or hypothetically kill someone, I would limit design use for off road use only.

Well you could either try to make enough off of them to retire or you could take you material cost and add a resonable profit. Sell a few expensive ones or alot of inexpensive ones??? Have to find the median, i rekon.

quote Originally posted by cadaver: That is the problem Im having. I need some input on a fair price for them.

Well, the wing stands are fine on all of my Fieros, but if they are $20-$30 a pair, I'd still buy a pair and store them in case I need them. Oh, and I think stock is perfect.

You see, someone who needs them because they're broken will probably pay $50 a piece just to get his/her wing back on the car, but you have to choose if you'd rather make/sell an average of say 4 a month for $50 to a desparate owner, or "mass produce" them for $10-$20 a piece and sell a lot more. It really depends on how much work goes into making one for you. But remember, if yours is too expensive, people are going to fix their old ones or rather get a complete wing.

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Thank you guys for all the input. I am working on the other side and also working on taller ones.
$40 a set stock
$60 a set tall
Hows that sound.
If anyone wants to trust me and order a little early that would help me out a great deal in the production costs.
Yes they come with new mounting studs and nuts.

Yes, you have a good product there. I need two sets of the stock height. Keep in mind that a good wing with usable stands go for $200 plus. And most are bought for the stands.

Keep us posted as to when they are ready.

Fred Bartemeyer
Co-Chairman Heartland Fieros

If the price is 40 for a stock set put me down for a for 1 set.
Send me billing info and when they will be avail.

How tall with the "tall" ones be? i just may take a set of each. when do you think youll have them done? how fast can you make them because you will have a huge demand at first for sure.

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"Kids in the backseat cause accidents, accidents in the backseat caused me!!"

Making them is not the issue it takes about 1/2 to make a set. Its the mold work to get to that point

What sizes are you going to be making for the tall ones? sometime I'd like to get a set that's about 1" taller than stock. (3.5"?)

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I was thinking about 1 1/2 taller. I think this is a good size to start with. If it a little too tall they can be sanded down.

Any one have a right side stand I can borrow. I will send it back with a set

What ever happened to this thread? Are the wing stands available and what about the longer ones that were discussed? If they are available has anyone purchased them?

Hmmm... I'd like some about 4 1/2 to 5 feet tall. Any biger and ill have trouble geting into the garage. Otherwise I'd want about 7 footers!

Count me in, Cadaver. Let me know when or if you need orders of each.

yes i am also interested

Put me in for the taller ones too...a little taller would be good but too tall is too much. I have a set of the extensions I purchased from IRM and just didn't like the looks of the 2 pc deal so I never put em on> A one pc tower would look good!

One set of stands to go please!

Send me billing info and when will be available.

Thanks

Cadaver, Fyrestarter - are you guys goingto be able to make it to the West Coast Fiero BBQ and open house this Saturday?

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I have a fairly decent wing, but only one good stand...one cracked stand...put me down for a pair of stock stands...do you want the money now? OK! but I get the first set!
Regards,
Pike

I don't need a new set as mine are still perfect and have not yet been reallocated by local thugs. But I sure would like to place that wing 3 - 4 inches higher. A much more dramatic effect. It sure would make me feel like I'm back in a sports car!!! I sold my 5 speed for my current low mileage great GT, but it is an automatic and isn't near as much fun to tool around in. I can at least make it look racy. That's the reason I'm on the look for a V8 Fiero... I have... the need for speed!!

Master_Sushi
I thought you were getting out of fieros and were just keeping your winter beater until spring??????? Why would you buy wing stands?

Ya I am keeping my 84 tell spring. I was joking about the wing stands . My 84 is basicly a beater... Im trying to make it looks somewhat nice though. I dont want to look like a hick whenever I go anywhere. Im going to post some pics of it once I get it finished. Im going to try and take some videos of it also. Maybe doing some donuts or something...

Cadaver, have you though about changing the angle of the stand to position the wing a ann inch or two mre in back. I have always felt that the wing when looked at from a side profile is set too forward and should be set back to compliment the side tailight body angle, especially on the GT models. Just a thought. Maybe you can create a new custom mount?

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I got lost in this thread.

How high are the tall ones, compared to the stock height?

Are the bottoms flared out? I have the extensions from IRM, and like the shape of them. Just don't like that blasted seam!

Do you take PayPal?

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Cadaver!

I'd like a tall set!

But I don't want flared bases! Dunno how many people have noticed, but flared bases don't fit a notchback decklid. And I'd like to use them with the stock gaskets.

So stick your flares, Gargoyle86!

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quote Originally posted by Denny: Cadaver! I'd like a tall set! But I don't want flared bases! Dunno how many people have noticed, but flared bases don't fit a notchback decklid. And I'd like to use them with the stock gaskets. So stick your flares, Gargoyle86! [This message has been edited by Denny (edited 10-12-2001).]

Well, they take a little trimming. Actually, out of the package, they don't fit quite right on a fastback either. They are flat, and a compromise. You need to trim to fit.

About the gasket, well, that's another issue. Mine have a flat rubber gasket, and have not leaked.

Straight ones that I have seen just don't seem to have a nice proportion, imho.

Look at all these replies recently and yet no Cadaver. So where is he?

I'd love to get a pair of tall stands (maybe 7" or so). These would probably be the ones I want if he ever made them.

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I'd like some wing stands/raisers that put the wing at about 5.5-6" total. Does anyone make them and where can I get them?

Id buy a 7" set as well, birthday coming up!

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Is cadaver still around? Is he still looking at this project?