How to make rear coil-overs using factory struts, with pics. (Page 9/49)
Joe Torma JUL 20, 01:57 AM

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Originally posted by shop_rat45:
Anyone?

That bushing ends up being a pivot point...so you should not solid mount it. I asked a similar question recently.

Joe Torma JUL 20, 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by David Bartlett:

Check out the ones I've put together...using sensi-trax', qs1's and coleman sleaves.



David,
I can't see what is going on at the top of that strut when installed...how does the spring hold up the car? Is the entire weight of the vehicle on the center of the strut mount plate? Or is it like Fierohoho's--the spring contacting the body?
Just wondering because I'll be doing something like this soon

[This message has been edited by Joe Torma (edited 07-20-2004).]

GSXRBOBBY JUL 20, 02:42 PM
So just walk me through a little part here:
1. The spring is a 12" or 10" (if you want to lower the cara few inches)
300 lbs. for a softer ride, 350 lbs. for a firmer hide
You can buy the springs for just about any vehicle that has the right size, a 2 1/2" inner opening
2. The ring that holds and allows you to adjust the spring height is call a what?
Is the a size needed for it?
3. The sleeve with the outer threads on its call a what?
Is there a set or needed size on it?
Do items 2 and 3 get sold in a set?
4. That is a stock type strut correct, just with the retainer for the spring cut and ground off?

Is this all that needed to make your own coil over?
I can see getting the spring from alot of places for about $30 to $45
How much is everything else and where is a good place to shop for them?

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Bobby from NW Indiana
86 Fiero GT, Looking to ad a 93 Northstar soon
thespeedshop@sbcglobal.net

Will JUL 20, 09:48 PM

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Originally posted by GSXRBOBBY:

So just walk me through a little part here:
1. The spring is a 12" or 10" (if you want to lower the cara few inches)
300 lbs. for a softer ride, 350 lbs. for a firmer hide
You can buy the springs for just about any vehicle that has the right size, a 2 1/2" inner opening


Either 12" or 10" will work. 12" springs give you more travel before they coil bind (yes, 10" springs can coil bind before they hit the bump stops).
Coil over springs are not listed by application. They are listed by rate and length. Like this:
http://store.summitracing.com/eproduct.asp?N=120+4294925130+4294925129+303893
If they don't have what you want, they can special order it. This is where I've gotten my springs from.


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2. The ring that holds and allows you to adjust the spring height is call a what?
Is the a size needed for it?

adjustable spring seat


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3. The sleeve with the outer threads on its call a what?
Is there a set or needed size on it?
Do items 2 and 3 get sold in a set?

threaded sleeve.
Almost always sold as a set with #2.
http://www.colemanracing.com/section/index.htp?id=343
You can save a few dollars by calling Coleman up and geting them to send you just the sleeve and perch because the conical hat is not necessary.


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4. That is a stock type strut correct, just with the retainer for the spring cut and ground off?


Yes, stock replacement strut with the spring perch cut off. You can get a short threaded sleeve and seat it on the spring perch, but then you can't use a 12" spring.


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Is this all that needed to make your own coil over?

Yes. The conical hat in other pictures is NOT REQUIRED.

As you can see from the Summit and Coleman websites, the springs are $35 and the sleeve/spring perch assemblies are about $30. $65.side plus struts.

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'87 Fiero GT: Low, Sleek, Fast, and Loud
'90 Pontiac 6000 SE AWD: None of the Above

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Will JUL 20, 10:10 PM
My first set of coil overs:

The only thing wrong with this picture is that I didn't have a stock bump stop on it. Take the stop bump stop, cut the strut boot off of it and put it inside the spring. It fits perfectly and works just fine. The spring being in direct contact with the top plate causes absolutely no problems.

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'87 Fiero GT: Low, Sleek, Fast, and Loud
'90 Pontiac 6000 SE AWD: None of the Above

Luck, Fate and Destiny are words used by those who lack the courage to define their own future

Kento JUL 20, 10:15 PM

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Originally posted by Will:
My first set of coil overs:

The only thing wrong with this picture is that I didn't have a stock bump stop on it. Take the stop bump stop, cut the strut boot off of it and put it inside the spring. It fits perfectly and works just fine. The spring being in direct contact with the top plate causes absolutely no problems.


Are you using the Stock Spring Perch trimmed up to hold the Sleeve????
It looks good

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Will JUL 20, 11:53 PM

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Originally posted by Kento:

Are you using the Stock Spring Perch trimmed up to hold the Sleeve????
It looks good


Yes, that's the way this one is made. It is one of a pair of RCC coil overs I bought used. I recommend cutting off the spring perch entirely and putting on a full length sleeve for greater adjustment range.

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'87 Fiero GT: Low, Sleek, Fast, and Loud
'90 Pontiac 6000 SE AWD: None of the Above

Luck, Fate and Destiny are words used by those who lack the courage to define their own future

GSXRBOBBY JUL 20, 11:57 PM
So the height of the car doesn't change with a 10" or a 12" spring just the possility of a bind. I was hoping to lower the car about 1 1/2 to 2 inches. I take it that is done by where you set the adjustable spring seat at?

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Bobby from NW Indiana
86 Fiero GT, Looking to ad a 93 Northstar soon
thespeedshop@sbcglobal.net

Will JUL 21, 09:14 AM

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Originally posted by GSXRBOBBY:

So the height of the car doesn't change with a 10" or a 12" spring just the possility of a bind. I was hoping to lower the car about 1 1/2 to 2 inches. I take it that is done by where you set the adjustable spring seat at?


Yes, that's the way the adjustable spring perch works. A 12" spring can limit the amount you lower the car IF you don' t have enough adjustment range on your adjustable spring perch. That's why I recommend the full length sleeve: to have enough adjustment range so that a 12" spring can be used.

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'87 Fiero GT: Low, Sleek, Fast, and Loud
'90 Pontiac 6000 SE AWD: None of the Above

Luck, Fate and Destiny are words used by those who lack the courage to define their own future

GSXRBOBBY JUL 21, 12:45 PM
Thanks sound like its only about $230 for a pair

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Bobby from NW Indiana
86 Fiero GT, Looking to ad a 93 Northstar soon
thespeedshop@sbcglobal.net