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williegoat
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NOV 08, 02:13 PM
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quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
I grew up working on flatheads, as my father had an auto shop and there were still plenty of them around in the early to mid 60s. I hated the in lines, as setting the valves was a pain in the butt way down there thru those side covers and they were forever over heating and blowing head gaskets due to thin castings. 24 head bolts on each side, and the earlier ones had 21 studs. The only thing easy to get to on the v8 Ford was the generator and carb. and of course, that big old bypass oil filter that was always sludgy as hades.The water pumps on those old things was HUGE!
I'm probably one of the very few here on PFF that ever worked on a Pontiac straight 8, or a Packard straight 8.
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Didn't the 21-studs have two little water pumps?
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maryjane
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NOV 09, 12:55 AM
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Maybe. It's been too long ago to remember it all.
Oldsfiero, the Packard I worked on belonged to one of my father's best friends and it was 54 Patrician with the 359. I rode in it once, for about 150 miles on a brand new Interstate 10 out to San Antonio. It was big, roomy, comfortable cloth seats and was like riding on air. I hated working on it tho. It sat low to the ground, it was heavy as hell and seemed like everything on it was rusty.
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Notorio
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NOV 16, 12:01 AM
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quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
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I don't think they would have stood up well against a 5,000 pound Oldsmobile ...
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fireboss
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NOV 16, 04:48 AM
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quote | Originally posted by Notorio:
I don't think they would have stood up well against a 5,000 pound Oldsmobile ... |
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ray b
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NOV 23, 03:58 PM
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BEFORE THE CAR GOT THE PLYWOOD BODY 40 CHEVY there was a war WW2 dad worked on the early B-29 preproduction so he had gas rationing beat but you could not buy a new car so he got a rolled chevy and rebodyed it twice
IT HAD A PLASTIC ONE but dad did not know about UV-degrading the plastic he used so his body fell off and the plywood replaced it
[URL=https://www.google.com/search?source=univ&tbm=isch&q=RAY+RUSSELL+PLYWOOD&client=firefox-b-1-d&fir=a1Uv1n7-tY-O8M%252CuVnYr2EsDJANSM%252C_%253BYsBrYZfUbY3y-M%252Ctz6KpD8DSetKcM%252C_%253BZtz5mIY3ccNpsM%252CuVnYr2EsDJANSM%252C_%253BctuCWtp673HEiM%252Ctz 6KpD8]https://www.google.com/sear...p673HEiM%252Ctz6KpD8[/URL] DSetKcM%252C_%253Bs43WvFBYClM-OM%252CuVnYr2EsDJANSM%252C_%253BfdfH3V3oHqD4QM%252Ctz6KpD8DSetKcM%252C_%253BZTu4FubyfDtG5M%252Ctz6KpD8DSetKcM%252C_%253BEh6S1fuhiTzzVM%252CaYt5f5N6kVYT2M%252C_%253Bg8097noKWAqdIM%252CaYt5f5N6kVYT2M%252C_%253BPwU0Poigec_7VM%252 CaYt5f5N6kVYT2M%252C_&usg=AI4_-kTXdWuKluW19eEY8tBNnTQsPf9QRw&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjjrsSorq_0AhUvRDABHSAfDHgQjJkEegQIAhAC&biw=1920&bih=932&dpr=1
first three picture top row are the first woodie the very odd looking one in the middle is the second hyd drive car he built that one from scratch
the alloy sports car is an mg with his custom body front and rear are identical he called it the gadabout the other alloy body sports car is an other hyd drive total scratch custom as is the 2nd woodie
later about 1955 after he saw zora's vetts [yes that zora chief engineer at corvette who lived upstairs at our lake front house] dad did a f/g body for ford he called the detroiter
------------------ Question wonder and be wierd are you kind?[This message has been edited by ray b (edited 11-23-2021).]
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maryjane
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NOV 23, 05:59 PM
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Do I understand that the Ray in the links is your own Dad Ray? I know you've mentioned his builds in the past but it's nice to see them now. An Automobile innovator even if they didn't all work out as planned.
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ray b
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NOV 23, 06:51 PM
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yes he was a car nut
wrote a newspaper photo weekly column
was a high paid jazz drummer
was a wiz at auto paint color chemistry
VP at the corp that made art and color books for most of the industry [car order books for dealers]
when he worked for FORD HE REPORTED TO HENRY [HYD DRIVE CARS]
MADE AND SOLD IN 100K LOTS HOOD ORNAMENTS 1954 FORD TRUCK WAS HIS LAST ONE
car trader we never had a new car but two or three used ones constant churn of 356 markII's jags caddys t-birds fascial vegas MB or other
yes and built boats a house and cars doing most work himself
other link
https://www.hemmings.com/st...-cars-of-ray-russell
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ray b
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NOV 23, 07:01 PM
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first experiments in automotive engineering occurred in summer 1941, when he built a plastic-bodied car, what he claimed to be the first such car in the country (though he would have to contend with Ford’s experimental soybean-plastic car for that title). Russell’s plastic car used a framework of welded steel tubing to support a wire mesh contour, to which he applied ethyl cellulose plastic up to 1/8-inch thick with a modified caulking gun. The envelope body styling might have been considered revolutionary, but the 1942 Chrysler-like grille bars suggest Russell had his eye on the latest Chrysler designs, including the envelope-bodied Thunderbolt.
from here http://dfwelitetoymuseum.co...cars-of-ray-russell/
btw that was the first body the U V destroyed
https://www.hagerty.com/med...y-russells-gadabout/[This message has been edited by ray b (edited 11-23-2021).]
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maryjane
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NOV 24, 01:39 AM
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thanks for the links. He certainly had a lot going on. Cars, airplanes, music, arts and a family to boot. Featured in Mechanix Illustrated and Popular Science.
Just..Wow!!
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