The narrative that the Capitol protest was a “deadly insurrection” is falling apart (Page 2/110)
blackrams APR 17, 11:41 PM

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Originally posted by theBDub:

An officer died, and plenty of right-wing insurrectionists have already pleaded guilty. I’m not quite sure what is falling apart, but both “deadly” and at least attempted “insurrection” both seem to fit the description.



While I don't pretend to speak for the OP, I interpret his statement as in, it wasn't the insurrection they have or are describing and complaining about. It was a small group of people (relatively speaking) from a very large crowd that scared the hell out of some of our elected leaders. Now, they are running scared. The continued presence of the NG is proof of that.
Some one somewhere didn't take the threat seriously and now several Reps have their panties all wadded up. Even though, it really wasn't all that much of a threat.

Rams

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randye APR 17, 11:59 PM

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Originally posted by theBDub:

..... plenty of right-wing insurrectionists have already pleaded guilty.




Pled guilty to WHAT?

You made the "insurrectionists" claim so now you provide a full list of ANY persons that participated in the riot charged with, who pled guilty to or have been convicted of "Insurrection"
(18 U.S. Code § 2383)......

ANYONE.


We already know how gleefully you toss around your meaningless Leftist SJW buzzwords and shibboleths and how freely you call people "racists" so your histrionic description of the rioters isn't a surprise.

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MidEngineManiac APR 18, 12:58 AM
You guys keep forgetting....

The SJW definition of "insurrectionist" is "Anybody who disagrees with me"
Jake_Dragon APR 18, 02:31 AM

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Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:

You guys keep forgetting....

The SJW definition of "insurrectionist" is "Anybody who disagrees with me"



That's racist
Jonesy APR 18, 07:10 AM

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Originally posted by theBDub:

An officer died, and plenty of right-wing insurrectionists have already pleaded guilty. I’m not quite sure what is falling apart, but both “deadly” and at least attempted “insurrection” both seem to fit the description.



Agreed. Don't care what heavily slanted and biased version of the media anyone here follows or listens too. I watched what happened, saw all the extra videos that were released later ect..

They were right wing insurrectionists.

People can make excuses and attempt to slant it any way they wish. It was what it was.

I know many here are on the right, and im sorry that your "side" is now associated with a large mass of extremest people who claim to be on your "side" that attempted an insurrection, but it is what it is.. Just like those on the left have to be associated with extremest from their side starting riots, it is what it is..

Either own it, condemn it, or if anyone here supports the insurrection, then have the balls to say you support it..

But don't make excuses, believe the lies your choice of biased media tells you to believe, or attempt to down play it.. Because, it is what it is..

blackrams APR 18, 07:55 AM

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Originally posted by Jonesy:


Agreed. Don't care what heavily slanted and biased version of the media anyone here follows or listens too. I watched what happened, saw all the extra videos that were released later ect..

They were right wing insurrectionists.

People can make excuses and attempt to slant it any way they wish. It was what it was.

I know many here are on the right, and im sorry that your "side" is now associated with a large mass of extremest people who claim to be on your "side" that attempted an insurrection, but it is what it is.. Just like those on the left have to be associated with extremest from their side starting riots, it is what it is..

Either own it, condemn it, or if anyone here supports the insurrection, then have the balls to say you support it..

But don't make excuses, believe the lies your choice of biased media tells you to believe, or attempt to down play it.. Because, it is what it is..



The one thing you alluded to that I do agree with is slanted views. All concerned seemed to have their own perspectives.
Perspective does make a difference in how one views events.
It's difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff but, not all there intended to be insurrectionists, I have no doubt there were a few there. Regardless of what administration is in power, there will always be those who want it changed.

I don't see much good that came from this riot but then, I also don't see much good that came from the riots in Portland regardless of who was responsible. Interestingly, I haven't seen any one suggest the DC Police should be defunded.

Rams

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2.5 APR 18, 12:30 PM
The comebacks in here are pretty much the things that I talked about in the beginning of this thread, and unless you're willing to acknowledge the details that I brought up including in the 2nd article, I guess you are just gonna stick to the same generalisations and intentional mischaracterizations the media put out in the beginning. Like I said, it worked.
Saying own it, this is you...is stupid. Do you apply that broad brush to the burning of private businesses in the name of BLM?

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rinselberg APR 18, 02:39 PM
"Let's take it again from the top"

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Originally posted by 2.5:
The younger and most energetic of the protestors, and at least one agent provocateur, pushed their way into the Capitol. They were
far more careful of, and considerate of, police than in the riots which had been occurring in leftist cities for most of a year. There were never more than several hundred of them, out of half a million or more protestors.

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Yeah, that's what I thought. The January 6 Capitol protestors were so much more careful and considerate [of police] than the Black Lives Matter and Black Lives Matter-aligned protestors that gathered across the country during the summer of 2020.

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randye APR 19, 01:58 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

"Let's take it again from the top"




Let's do that:

Just look at all the rocks, bricks, steel pipes and urine filled bottles NOT being thrown.

See all the commercial fireworks NOT being launched.

Observe all the vehicles and buildings NOT on fire.

Notice all the lasers NOT being directed into eyes.

See that lone man, arms spread wide in the doorway, as he is NOT being physically accosted in any way.

Marxist Leftist narratives never stand up to evidence....even their own.

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Rickady88GT APR 19, 07:29 AM

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Originally posted by randye:


Let's do that:

Just look at all the rocks, bricks, steel pipes and urine filled bottles NOT being thrown.

See all the commercial fireworks NOT being launched.

Observe all the vehicles and buildings NOT on fire.

See that lone man, arms spread wide in the doorway, as he is NOT being physically accosted in any way.

Marxist Leftist narratives never stand up to evidence....even their own.




I would also note that no guns were used by the rioters. How long did it take to kick them out, yah some take over that was. How much was looted from the building? How much was destroyed in the building. How many statues were toppled? How much spray paint was used? Yah, that was some violent government take over. Did it happen, yep it did and it was wrong and I hope they all pay for it,.....BUT how many of the arrested rioters got go fund me money from politicians to free them and help defend them in court? Yah that happened to blm rioters. How many of them got a pass for days on end to burn loot and murder,..? Yah that is still happening for blm and antifa.
How about the leftists step up and condemn there own side? The capital riot was exactly that and just that,...a riot carried out by idiots. But to this day the blm and antifa idiots rioting and looting and killing have been given a pass and actually supported by politicians and celebrities along with racists and people still can't draw up enough gumption to call them the same insults that the capital rioters have been called.

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