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First Man: The Neil Armstrong movie (Page 4/5) |
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rinselberg
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FEB 15, 09:46 AM
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quote | First Man doesn’t glorify the era it’s depicting, or the people — especially not the man at its center, all roiling emotions locked up tight so that he’ll never be vulnerable. But it doesn’t scathingly tear down the American mythos that has been built up around them, either. It suggests that such an approach is unnecessary — that it’s enough to depict things as they were, without the gloss this national myth has been given over time, the inconvenient details sanded away. |
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Alison Willmore for BuzzFeed News; October 14, 2018. https://www.buzzfeednews.co...ng-nasa-moon-landing[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 02-15-2019).]
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cliffw
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FEB 15, 11:11 AM
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quote | Originally posted by rinselberg: But it doesn’t scathingly tear down the American mythos that has been built up around them, either. It suggests that such an approach is unnecessary — that it’s enough to depict things as they were, without the gloss this national myth has been given over time, the inconvenient details sanded away.
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You would approve of this critique by this CRITIC ?
Did we, the Americans, go to the Moon, or not ? Has anyone else ? How often through time has man looked up at the Moon, and wondered ? To get to the Moon, multiple times, is HISTORIC !
All great explorers have planted the flag of the country from which they came. It is also done on the battlefields of any ground they captured.

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Jake_Dragon
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FEB 15, 03:15 PM
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A father buys a lie detector robot that slaps people when they lie. He decides to test it out at dinner one night. The father asks his son what he did that afternoon. The son says, "I did some schoolwork." The robot slaps the son. The son says, "Ok, Ok. I was at a friend's house watching movies." Dad asks, "What movie did you watch?" Son says, "Toy Story." The robot slaps the son. Son says, "Ok, Ok, we were watching **** ." Dad says, "What? At your age I didn't even know what **** was." The robot slaps the father. Mom laughs and says, "Well, he certainly is your son." The robot slaps the mother. Robot for sale.
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williegoat
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FEB 15, 03:57 PM
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quote | Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:
A father buys a lie detector robot that slaps people when they lie. He decides to test it out at dinner one night. The father asks his son what he did that afternoon. The son says, "I did some schoolwork." The robot slaps the son. The son says, "Ok, Ok. I was at a friend's house watching movies." Dad asks, "What movie did you watch?" Son says, "Toy Story." The robot slaps the son. Son says, "Ok, Ok, we were watching **** ." Dad says, "What? At your age I didn't even know what **** was." The robot slaps the father. Mom laughs and says, "Well, he certainly is your son." The robot slaps the mother. Robot for sale. |
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rinselberg
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FEB 15, 04:19 PM
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quote | Originally posted by cliffw:
You would approve of this critique by this CRITIC ?
Did we, the Americans, go to the Moon, or not ? Has anyone else ? How often through time has man looked up at the Moon, and wondered ? To get to the Moon, multiple times, is HISTORIC !
All great explorers have planted the flag of the country from which they came. It is also done on the battlefields of any ground they captured. |
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"We have no enemies on the moon." ~ Dwight D. Eisenhower, 34th President of the United States
Quiz time: Describe (briefly) the circumstance that elicited that remark from President Eisenhower.
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randye
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FEB 15, 10:09 PM
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quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
Quiz time: |
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When is Ronald going to get the mental health help that he obviously needs?
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cliffw
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FEB 16, 09:37 AM
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quote | Originally posted by rinselberg: "We have no enemies on the moon." ~ Dwight D. Eisenhower, 34th President of the United States
Quiz time: Describe (briefly) the circumstance that elicited that remark from President Eisenhower. |
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I have no clue. He was wrong. He had never been there.[This message has been edited by cliffw (edited 02-16-2019).]
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olejoedad
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FEB 16, 12:15 PM
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President Eisenhower was speaking to the need for Redstone rockets with nuclear capability vs the need to develop rockets to explore space.
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Jake_Dragon
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FEB 17, 01:31 AM
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quote | The Lunar Flag Assembly (LFA) was a kit containing a flag of the United States designed to be erected on the Moon during the Apollo program. Six such flag assemblies were planted on the Moon. The nylon flags were hung on telescoping staffs and horizontal bars constructed of one-inch anodized aluminum tubes. The flags were carried on the outside of the Apollo Lunar Module (LM), most of them on the descent ladder inside a thermally insulated tubular case to protect them from exhaust gas temperatures calculated to reach 2,000 °F (1,090 °C). The assembly was designed and supervised by Jack Kinzler, head of technical services at the Manned Spacecraft Center in Houston, Texas. Six of the flags were ordered from a government supply catalog and measured 3 by 5 feet (0.91 by 1.52 m); the last one planted on the Moon was the slightly larger, 6-foot (1.8 m)-wide flag which had hung in the Mission Operations Control Room in the Manned Spacecraft Center for most of the Apollo program.
Flags were planted on each Apollo mission that landed on the Moon. Deploying the flag during the Apollo 11 mission proved to be a challenge. Armstrong and Aldrin had trouble inserting the pole into the lunar surface, and only managed to get it about seven inches deep. When they backed away from the flag, it proved it could stand on its own. Scientists discovered later that the lunar dust has a different profile than terrestrial dust. Dust from Earth has rounded edges; dust from the Moon has sharp edges. The sharp edges of the lunar dust make them catch against each other, making it difficult to insert items into them. Buzz Aldrin reported that the Apollo 11 flag, placed about 27 feet (8.2 m) from the centerline of the Eagle landing craft, was blown over by the blast of the rocket exhaust during takeoff. As a result, care was taken by subsequent crews to place the flags at greater distances from the Lunar Module. |
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cliffw
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FEB 17, 05:08 AM
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quote | Originally posted by olejoedad: President Eisenhower was speaking to the need for Redstone rockets with nuclear capability vs the need to develop rockets to explore space. |
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Thanks ! I wanted to be honest with my answer. I was going to google it later but got busy and forgot. Your revelation piqued me to do a little reading on his Space Race thinking.
Eisenhower and the CIA had known since at least January 1957, nine months before Sputnik, that Russia had the capability to launch a small payload into orbit and was likely to do so within a year. He may also privately have welcomed the Russian satellite for its legal implications: By launching a satellite, Russia had in effect acknowledged that space was open to anyone who could access it, without needing permission from other nations.
On the whole, Eisenhower's support of the nation's fledgling space program was officially modest until the Soviet launch of Sputnik in 1957, gaining the Cold War enemy enormous prestige around the world. He then launched a national campaign that funded not just space exploration but a major strengthening of science and higher education. The Eisenhower administration determined to adopt a non-aggressive policy that would allow "space-crafts of any state to overfly all states, a region free of military posturing and launch Earth satellites to explore space". His Open Skies Policy attempted to legitimize illegal Lockheed U-2 flyovers and Project Genetrix while paving the way for spy satellite technology to orbit over sovereign territory, however Nikolai Bulganin and Nikita Khrushchev declined Eisenhower's proposal at the Geneva conference in July 1955. In response to Sputnik being launched in October 1957, Eisenhower created NASA as a civilian space agency in October 1958, signed a landmark science education law, and improved relations with American scientists.
Fear spread through the United States that the Soviet Union would invade and spread communism, so Eisenhower wanted to not only create a surveillance satellite to detect any threats but ballistic missiles that would protect the United States. In strategic terms, it was Eisenhower who devised the American basic strategy of nuclear deterrence based upon the triad of B-52 bombers, land-based intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs), and Polaris submarine-launched ballistic missiles (SLBMs).
NASA planners projected that human spaceflight would pull the United States ahead in the Space Race as well as accomplishing their long time goal; however, in 1960, an Ad Hoc Panel on Man-in-Space concluded that "man-in-space can not be justified" and was too costly. Eisenhower later resented the space program and its gargantuan price tag—he was quoted as saying, "Anyone who would spend $40 billion in a race to the moon for national prestige is nuts."Click to show
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