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Return of Fiero OCT 25, 01:36 PM

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Originally posted by 84Bill:
Welp I'm all for that idea but I dont like the idea of just one person being able to reduce ones merit because of a disagreement.
How about a number of votes would bring a user down say 7 users of a year or more. that way it's "popular opinion" and not just a single opinion.
Even better still in order to kind of "teach" the user how to behave and better the board, have the voters vote to close the offending thread and after say 5 threads closed boot the offender for x days or months or forever.
I feel that even the worst boneheads that pass through do have some good input from time to time and should not be banned unless they just don't get it.
This forum is great because of the way it's run. You can post just about anything you want in the various forums within reason but people being different may find some things more offensive than others. Take the Earth sucks thread some will find it totaly useless but several find it facinating but if 5 votes find it useless than buh bye and thats not right.

this is the basis of my arguement, the fear that i might say somthing to get someone peved and have them start bating me on the voting. this could pose a problem, where as i mean no harm, yet, sometimes i have been labled as contravetial. i just like to stir up peoples minds, a HEALTHY CONTROLED argument almost always opens minds and brings out peoples creativity. but on the other hand, you try to stir up someones mind, get them to thing, and they decide you are attacking them (this happened to me on the Fiero-List twice now. i was trying to educate myself, and someone took it as an insult) this is the sort of thing im talking about as a problem, how can this be avoided (i know, shut my mouth, right?) the idea behind the forum (correct me if im wrong cliff) is to alow others to share and create, as well as educate self and others. a message board with input. I just would hate to see this turn into a cliquish society, where you either fit, or get booted. i think that is a fair concern.
please feel free to coment on my words, and PLEASE quote me if your doing so, i would love to be able to explain my concers in deeper detail, if warranted
Myke

Butter OCT 25, 03:04 PM
Cliff,
There's a lot of good points made on this forum. I would hate to be removed from your forum cause I r Hillbilly and I too come across differently than most folks. I think you have a good idea and I'm sure you can work out a good way to rate folks. I use this forum to improve my communication with folks from all over and I would hate to be kicked out of school before I got a wuppin'!

Now to put what I just said more directly (One Translation).

There is much knowlegde on this site.
I do not want to be removed due to discrimination.
You have the intelligence to impliment this idea fairly.
There is much to be learned on this forum including manners. Give anyone fair notice to learn better before you kick anyone off.

Above is a good example of how I could get something misconstrued.

Go Cliff Go! We'll keep it simple.

Tigger OCT 25, 04:09 PM
At first I liked the idea of rating members but more and more I think about it the more I'm not sure.

Is there a way we could have a complaint system?

For example, lets say 3 complaints from three different members are filed against another member. Maybe have radio buttons with specific reasons like, uses offensive language, intimidating threats, maybe an "other" section where you'd type in a form box the complaint, etc.

After three of such are filed, the member getting the complaints is notified that he/she is on probation. Any more complaints, ohhh within the next month, and that user is subject to being banned.

JSocha OCT 25, 05:34 PM
Return of Fiero:

In my opinion and the way I would use the system is if someone is calling so and so every name under the sun they can come up with which is uncalled for; belittling/berating the individual for the sole purpose of their own amusement or just because another individual shared an opinion and/or view on a topic; posting a thread for the sole purpose of starting an argument; just to name a few.

I guess it is one thing to be constructive and provide worth while feedback; be able to get into an argument/flame war and yet at the same time be able to maintain a mutual respect for the others opinions and/or views on a topic versus destructive and subsequently belittling any individual on petty things within a post or the issues at hand "just because they can".

In the end, we are all adults here and can respectfully determine when something is out of line to make an informed decision as well as vote.

Or as the adage goes, "What goes around...comes around".

I think if a voting system is incorporated and lets say the rating (Positive or Negative) is listed somehow graphically under the users moniker, that individual will be able to see a general feedback from others on either the thread at hand or overall if others do not wish to get involved in a (any) topic by posting, but have the ability to submit a vote anonamously that provides anonomoyse feedback that others do or do not see that individuals view and it is either favorored or not favored among the rest of the PFF community so that individual has an opportunity to make changes in the way they interact with others.

That's just my feeling on the subject. DEEEEEEEEPPPPPPPPP!

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Return of Fiero OCT 26, 01:09 AM

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Originally posted by JSocha:
Return of Fiero:

"In my opinion and the way I would use the system is if someone is calling.." ".. every name under the sun they can come up with which is uncalled for; belittling/berating the individual for the sole purpose of their own amusement.." "..individual shared an opinion and/or view on a topic; posting a thread for the sole purpose of starting an argument; just to name a few."

I guess it is one thing to be constructive and provide worth while feedback; be able to get into an argument/flame war and yet at the same time be able to maintain a mutual respect for the others opinions and/or views on a topic versus destructive and subsequently belittling any individual on petty things within a post or the issues at hand "just because they can".

In the end, we are all adults here and can respectfully determine when something is out of line to make an informed decision as well as vote.

Or as the adage goes, "What goes around...comes around".

I think if a voting system is incorporated and lets say the rating (Positive or Negative) is listed somehow graphically under the users moniker, that individual will be able to see a general feedback from others on either the thread at hand or overall if others do not wish to get involved in a (any) topic by posting, but have the ability to submit a vote anonamously that provides anonomoyse feedback that others do or do not see that individuals view and it is either favorored or not favored among the rest of the PFF community so that individual has an opportunity to make changes in the way they interact with others.

That's just my feeling on the subject. DEEEEEEEEPPPPPPPPP!



ok, i see we are on the same level, but we are not all on the same level, no disrespect to anyone. i wish it was as simple as what goes around comes around. in the past i have seen, more that once, someone getting "blasted" for absolutly nothing, or just because someone was upset at a coment someone said. this is what im talking about, these type of things, and i will agree if you say i havent been here long enough to know the member well enough to make the "un-named" accusation. true as it is, we have all encountered the unlikly jerk who decides they just dont like you, and that is the jerk that i have been hypothisizing about. i am not saying anyone here is like this, as i have not seen it, but i am saying it does happen, and lets, for the sake of argument, say i am that jerk. i complain about you 4 or 5 times by picking apart what you have said, and complaing that what you have said is offencive to me, and i have tried to talk to you about it (say outside the forum)and you refuse to stop your bantering. now you have been ousted, and for what? nothing, some jerk (me in this case) decided he didnt like you. the only reason this came up for me, was i got blasted for a coment i made to a mailing list that was harmless, and got contacted by the coordinators about it. the stament was a simple "i dont like this, no thank you" statment, but was told to the coordnators that she felt i was bashing her for her belifes, and i was degragating her by talking to her as i did. does the above stament look to be loaded? i dont think so, it wasnt meant to be as such, but it was an interpitation..... i feel like im being long winded again, so i will cut this short,
basical, im saying not everyone can "act their age," not everyone is as horribal as they are made out to be, and when these two meet, there might be a "black balling" of an inocent. i wish, hope and pray this is never an issue, i was just raiseing a point about a posibal situation.

sorry about the spelling, never tried to write, only tried to speak eliquently.

again, sorry about the length,
Myke

Ps, dont take this as an attack on anyone, like it is partialy stated, i have run into great people only here, im actualy so happy with the forum, i have brought a few new people to it. peace
GTDusty OCT 26, 01:19 AM
Well....I have already formed an alliance with members of my tribe so Im sure to be here a while!!

Dusty-(gotta love americans stranded in a foreign country)

FieroSTETZ OCT 26, 06:09 AM
i have seen on saome sites where you get a warning, then temporary ban, then permanent. make it something like that, so someone has at least a chance to think about how retarted they are, and come back. people can change, most of them just need a cattle prod and a punch to the gut to do so.
revin OCT 26, 07:37 AM
Cliff,
What if someone just like to read and not flood the forum with questions? I have given my two cents to some questions, but I like too read and learn sometimes too. Would my rateing go down if I don't answer questons? Most items can be found in the search. I do see alot of repete questions.
Do what you feel is nessary. I will back up the dission.
84Bill OCT 26, 01:35 PM
So what happens if I just don't like you period? I hammer away at you by voting, maybe I can convince some of my holmies to do the same because we are tight? Eventually you will get the boot. Not a good way to do things if you ask me but that the power and it can be used for good and evil intent.
DRH OCT 26, 02:16 PM
Cliff,

The whole vote thing sounds a little too 'Survivor' to me. Majority rule is not always a good thing. Sometimes the pack mentality kicks in and someone could wind up banned when someone with a more objective view might have appropriately let them off with a warning.

We don't need to vote to have you ban an obvious troll. So far, anyone else that might have been banned under this system has shown signs of improvement either when they find out exactly how unpopular their comments are or when warned by you.

The only suggestion I would make would be for you to "clean up" hijacked threads when you warn someone. Some valuable reading sometimes gets lost amongst the .

Just my .02...

David.