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grinthock
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JUL 05, 11:23 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Cliff Pennock: Just had another whopping 4 hours of sleep. Ed, you are [b]really starting to piss me off majorly. You are not the center of the universe and therefore not the cause of everything that's happening. I can not believe you turned the fact that I re-opened the forum again into a "I told you so, he's doing it because of some legal advice he has gotten". Let me tell you Ed, you are probably the biggest paranoid moron I have met online since I'm on the internet. I did it because I was kinda sorry for you people were directing their anger at you. And you can't even respect that. Man, I do hope you get some help. And I do hope you will stay out of the forum from now on. You are continuously trying to piss me off and try to attack me and the forum. And no, I don't respond to attacks very well. If you have a problem with that, fine. I coudn't care less. So go on and do whatever you feel is necessary. But stay away from the forum from now on. You want to turn this into a legal issue? Go ahead, try me.[/B] |
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Well what can I say I can't exactly reply IN TIME as I was away, but here is a little note for this guy..... No threats come to him from me -- Excluding maybe the legal ones. Ed -- Just remember ONE THING, should you decide to go overboard and MAKE THIS LEGAL Cliff will have the financal support of over 1000 people in this forum to legally push you into the GROUND. While you can sit there with your $100 retainer lawyer and get your a$$ chewed...... Have a nice day.
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EdsB52
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JUL 05, 12:55 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by grinthock: Well what can I say I can't exactly reply IN TIME as I was away, but here is a little note for this guy..... No threats come to him from me -- Excluding maybe the legal ones. Ed -- Just remember ONE THING, should you decide to go overboard and MAKE THIS LEGAL Cliff will have the financal support of over 1000 people in this forum to legally push you into the GROUND. While you can sit there with your $100 retainer lawyer and get your a$$ chewed...... Have a nice day. |
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Who's running what into the ground? I have only begun to answer a fraction of the posts/emails against me. I'm not bringing up new issues, just answering old ones. You guys are collectively posting at a rate that far exceeds my ability to answer them, and you're some kind of victims? As far as I know, I'm still welcome here. If Cliff wants me gone, he can remove my ID and I'll go away and not reenter as a new user name. If the members want me gone, start a petition. I'm not unreasonable. Cliff was willing to delete a post of mine and close two others. It would probably take less effort to remove my ID than to remove a post.
Financial backing of 1,000 members? If you feel it necessary, pass around the hat. Remember, winning a lawsuit is somewhat like betting on a football game; you have to win before you get paid. Money can't change the facts; only enhance the way they're presented. In other words you can't buy your way into a win. Now if you have millions of dollars and political influence you might be able to nullify that rule, but I'm willing to bet that the hat wouldn't yield a thousand dollars as it returned to Cliff's crack legal team. Besides, the club has immediate recourse, they/he can remove my ID. I find it amazing at the number of members who find it necessary to empower themselves through threats of violence and litigation. It's actually laughable. Were you the guys that got picked on in high school? People have asked me what I've done for members of the club, or the club in general. I've given away a bunch of parts to different people and made offers of free parts to others. I've offered up information such as how to remove a clutch (my way) and was poopoo'd. I've written information about other mechanical things as well. Then I entered the posts about gear ratios and the wheels came off. It seems an underlying status quo exists that you better not dare permeate. Certain topics are taboo to the club 'royalty,' for lack of a better word, and you shouldn't debate them. Through your writings you made an opinion statement; you said that as of now, I have not gone overboard. Thanks, of course I haven't. Also, I would not need a retainer. I would probably go Pro Per, short for Properia Persona. And if/when it came time for trial I would go Pro Se. Maybe you can pass around the cerebral hat to your 1,000 folks and see if you can figure out simple Latin. Have a better day, Ed.
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grinthock
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JUL 05, 02:38 PM
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This is the problem Ed --- I didn't have an issue with your post, until the last statement when you said (and I Quote) "Maybe you can pass around the cerebral hat to your 1,000 folks and see if you can figure out simple Latin. Have a better day, Ed." Why do you say this? All this does is cause the much hostility that many people feel you are causing, YES, this was my opinion, for 90% of your post you accepted it as an opinion and (exuse me for saying) frigged off, but then you put that last sentance in there and I bet that MOST members here would agree with me that it's THIS SIMPLE fact that causes alot of the trouble around here.... (I am even totally guilty!)
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Monkeyman
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JUL 05, 02:46 PM
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Never took Latin (where would I ever use it?), but I'm guessing that you'd represent yourself. BTW--E Pluribus Unum. Scienta est potentia. Caveat emptor. Some might say that you are sui generis. On the other hand, I am sine qua non. And finally, you are persona non grata. 'Nuff said! ------------------ 'Consciousness: That annoying time between naps.' MM
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84Bill
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JUL 05, 02:51 PM
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Well Ed it was nice of you to put down that righteous sword of yours for a second, it's greatly appreciated. I'm sure you can understand why many view you as "the bad guy" since your persistence is well known. I will not speak for Cliff instead I'll only say what I know. Cliff will close/remove threads in order to keep the peace that's fact 1. If anyone wanted to, as evidenced by your second thread ignore Cliffs guidance and continue to dredge up the mud and piss people off Fact 2.So ok you will keep coming back if your ID is pulled and you'll keep pissing people off and you'll keep getting "Hate mail" and, and, and. So where will it end Ed? when you have successfully destroyed everything because you want to make a point? That is very thoughtful of you, perhaps we should thank you for it. You know you took some low shots at Cliff and I don't think I could have been so tolerant of such blatant disrespect. I too have felt the heat from members of this forum and had gotten my fair share of "flame mail" from same, but you know what Ed. I still respect them all. So ok you win but I for one will (after this blows over) ignore EdsB52 for as long as you use it. I'll probably read your stuff but I'll conceder the source when placing value on it. I'm sure that won't bother you a bit, Will it. Thanks Ed [This message has been edited by 84Bill (edited 07-05-2001).]
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EdsB52
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JUL 05, 04:27 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by grinthock: This is the problem Ed --- I didn't have an issue with your post, until the last statement when you said (and I Quote)"Maybe you can pass around the cerebral hat to your 1,000 folks and see if you can figure out simple Latin. Have a better day, Ed." Why do you say this? All this does is cause the much hostility that many people feel you are causing, YES, this was my opinion, for 90% of your post you accepted it as an opinion and (exuse me for saying) frigged off, but then you put that last sentance in there and I bet that MOST members here would agree with me that it's THIS SIMPLE fact that causes alot of the trouble around here.... (I am even totally guilty!) |
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Remember this? "Ed -- Just remember ONE THING, should you decide to go overboard and MAKE THIS LEGAL Cliff will have the financal support of over 1000 people in this forum to legally push you into the GROUND. While you can sit there with your $100 retainer lawyer and get your a$$ chewed...... Have a nice day." You threatened to collectively sue me, or was it to legally push me into the ground (veiled threat)? I seem to forget between being insulted and threatened. Anyway, it was a fair statement on my part as to the nature of my knowledge of the law and the tenacity to which I will defend myself against purely frivolous law suits. What do you want me to say? Are you guys so omnipotent as to think I'll yield to your threats? Hey, I'm just having fun in this forum and don't want to hurt anyone. Ed.
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2xsess
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JUL 05, 05:00 PM
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HOLY SH!T what the heck is going on here? I've never seen/read Cliff so pissed off. That sucks that someone could piss him off that bad, we've had some stupid stuff go on here and Cliff always maintained a mild, calm demeanor. I don't know what's going on. I'm in Kosovo and only get to check the forum like once in a blue moon and now I hear of it closing then reopening and Cliff getting all pissed. It seems like everyone forgets the real reason we're all here. FIEROS!!!Hello?WEll anyways, I nominate Stimpy for moderator if he's still hanging around here, I think he'd be awesome, no B.S. would go on in his forum,lol. That's all I have to say except this to Cliff, My little phrase that gets me through all the crap the Military shoves on top of me is F$^K IT!  Take care, Jeff
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JSocha
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JUL 05, 05:01 PM
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Ed, I hope you give it a rest soon, because you are really becoming, if not already, by making a complete and utter _ss of yourself. Not only to me as I see you now, but apparently to the rest of the Fiero community and family here as well, to which you could have successfully been a part of here at PFF. I don't know how you allow people to treat you inside "your" house when you welcome and invite them in. However, I am almost positive if they disrespect you in anyway that you would consider inappropriate, you (or perhaps your gf/wife) would let them know in no uncertain terms or will boot them out and not take any guff as the door knob is hitting them. And I am sure you would have rules or at least boundaries to which you would expect them to act within. And here it is, complete, absolute disrespect for not only our HOST and his guests to which you were allowed into his house to also be part of. He himself, not to mention his "guests" have informed you on numerouse occassions that they do not find such actions appropriate. A smart, considerate person would realize this in this situation and take it as constructive feedback that they themselves are crossing a boundary and/or social standard found to be offensive and back off and/or leave entirely to save face and at the same time come out with, if not salvage a little respect from the others. As I said in another post on another thread which for clarification is not directed towards you, but to all of us here at PFF in general, that "You are never too old to grow up". If you have taken offense by that last statement, then I will have to assume that one has issues to deal with on a personal level. Cliff is our HOST. We are his "invited" GUESTS. He has the right to tell us what we are allowed to do in "his" house, warn us if and that he feels our behavior is out of line, kick us out and/or lock the door entirely to that individual or all of us without worrying someone is going to come back and threaten him or if he decides to do something different. Again...it is his HOUSE; not yours; not mine; not anybody's here. So I feel we all better start thinking about that.
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grinthock
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JUL 05, 07:30 PM
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I have had it, you just don't know when to stop.... I do.... Now.... I propose, and suggest, and ask (as a possible future moderator) that no furthur posts to this thread be made..... It only fuels a fire we all want to see stop..... Please do not use the Reply button here. Thank you.
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AusFiero
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JUL 06, 11:22 AM
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Thanks Cliff, appreciate the work you put into this. Someone said the word club. I always thought an international Fiero club would be cool. There is a lot of them over here. ------------------ My Fiero Need a Subwoofer Console or Speaker Door Pods?
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