Remembering the spark plug thread and Vinniewolf. I never did understand what the deal was, sort of funny as I look back on it.

The convenience of PM is nice, but with it there are some who, unfortunately, abuse it, just like the internet. Some think that it is there right to be a jerk and that everyone else has to accept them. I guess that their mommies never gave them enough of a time out, and now Cliff is forced to be their mommy, a job he doesn't want or deserve. However since its Cliff's service and his nickel, he needs to run the place as he sees fit. Those who don't follow the rules, should go create their own forum and suffer with the Eds and BS's of the world.

Yes, I do truely miss the old gang, but turnover is to be expected. That is the nature of life.

I to am guilty of occaisionally picking on a few people (especially you know who and his front porch ) Sorry, but it is all in fun.

As for the trouble makers... ban em, kick em off. Zap their ISP's! you've done it b4, do it again!

Cliff, I love ya man (there i said it... as long as you know it's in a brotherly sort of way)! You've done a lot for all of us, and i truely apreciate that!

I don't know if you realize it, but your fourm here is a piviotal and integral member of the Fiero community now, withought it we'd be stuck in the dark ages

I don't really have any solutions for you, other than a bit of wisdom from Robert A Hienlin (that will hardly be new to you, but nonetheless...) "The best ruler is the one who does the absolute minimum nessicary to avoid total chaos and collapse, and no more."

Your 'self-moderating' fourm works very well indeed, but we do need you to step in every so often and help us out. Not too often, and you've shown admirable restraint and tact. I think the idea is sound, and the Fourm simply great!

Thanks again.

Ben.

All of this boils down to this Forum. YOUR forum, Mr. Pennock. It is, as far as I (care to) know, the biggest, and best watering hole for Fiero enthusiasts in the entire world.

If it wasn't for your efforts, I would still be wondering what to do about a fluttering headlamp or whether my car is really a Formula or a GT. (It is a GT, btw.) I would still wonder if I was the only guy on earth who *really* likes Fieros. I appreciate it, and despite the "bad side of town" around here, (troublemakers and the people they cause to always reply,) I find this place enjoyable.

Don't give up. And Thank You.

- Patrick (Flamberge)

Btw 84Bill you forgot the chocolate for the smores.

I saw some flame war going on with I forgot his name "BlackMustang85"? I just ignored it because it wasn't worth the energy or trouble. If you banded him Cliff, Thanks.

84bill I put in my $.02 along with yours and I'll take that nickel and leave a penny for the next contestant.

Just wanted to thank you directly for the forum. I am the one of the truest forms of an addict, and I love it.

Back in March of 2001, my company layed off half its staff- of which all of those who left were my personal friends. Those that remain I am not really fond of, as they are true co-workers and associates (not friends). In July when I found the forum (or found myself on the forum )- I suddenly had communication with the outside world again. The forum is really my only/primary form of "personal" contact with other people. Without the forum, I'd probably end up back in the "gutter" (reading pages & pages of ebay listings), and struggling to find Fiero Tech info through numerous search engines. I just can't thank you enough for what you're doing, not only for the Fiero Community- but also for me personally.

As to what to do about flame wars... I don't have any problem with you closing anything that's looking like it's "catching fire". Do what you have to, since people aren't understanding how to actually act in this type of situation. Just keep up the good work!

84B: It was a joke. It seems to be universally accepted that if you want to see the flamewars (In any forum, not just this one.), just go to the O/T section. It's the moderators' biggest headache, assuming s/he's watching what's going on, and it has the least to do with why the Forum is here. Again, this is not necessarily a bad thing, just the way it is. Like the saying goes, "Opinions are like (rectums). Everyone's got one, and they're usually full of (waste product)."