Build thread: '88 + 3800 = Fun in Spokane (Dial-up death warning) (Page 2/33)
aaronkoch JUL 14, 12:03 PM

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Originally posted by helmet1978:

Nice work Aaron! Did I get you motivated a couple weeks ago?

Mine took 4 months to finish, if you can get yours done by Aug 7th I'll make you a special award for the fastest 3800 engine swap in the northwest!

Let me know if you run into any engine related questions, hopefully I can answer them for you...






Why yes, yes you did. I figure if you guys in Boise can do it.... :P

In all honesty though, I wouldn't have even tried this project without the resources available here on the Forum. Tonight will be a busy night, I'm going to finish gutting the rear links and front arms, and hand them off to Joe tomorrow hopefully, I hope his powder coat guy can do the spindles too..

Looks like I'll have to mount my bench vise on the bench. This swap would have been easier had my garage been cleaned out, but we just moved into the house not too long ago, and this place is a bit smaller than the last, so there's stuff still crammed in the garage. (like a parts car.. sigh)
aaronkoch JUL 15, 10:56 AM
Quick update:

My giant order from the fiero store showed up, containing lowering springs, ball joints, tie rods, poly all around, kyb's, strut plates, and stainless brake lines. They were kind enough to give me the PFF credit after the fact (I forgot about it when ordering).

Well, last night I tore into the cradle, removed the knuckles, lateral arms, and trailing arms, and burned the rubber out. I think that smell will haunt me for quite a while..

Also, since nobody has a trick for removing the giant mounting "pins" from the front uppers, I just removed all the rubber, and will send them off to be powder coated as-is. When I was removing the front ball-joints, I noticed that the uppers had never been changed, so I had to grind off the rivets. Also, the lowers weren't help in by the retaining clips (although they were tight in there..). Is that factory?

At 8:45PM, I broke my T-55 driver, and had to resort to sears for a new one, too bad they only sell that size in a pack of 4 (big torx sizes) for $39.99. Holy crap, no wonder the store was empty.

So, THANKFULLY, all bolts played nice and came right off. With any luck, by tonight I will have the cradle free, and hand all the stuff off to joe for powdercoating.
Dogcreek JUL 15, 09:04 PM
BTW... I have a free day this weekend... either Saturday or Sunday.... If you need a hand let me know... I follow directions well and clean up nice... LOL

Be glad to come over to help...and I can bring the seats!!

Jeff
aaronkoch JUL 16, 06:24 PM
Just ordered rims & tires. Thanks to Rickady for confirming his fitment, I hope you don't mind my stealing your ideas..

Rims purchased:


Rears, 17x8 35mm offset

Fronts, 17x7 38mm offset

Tires:
Bridgestone Potenza RE760 sports


Fronts: 215/45
Rears: 245/40

Can't wait til they get here!
americasfuture2k JUL 16, 06:36 PM
i cant wait to see those on the fiero! i was looking at the black spoked ones
Tony Kania JUL 16, 09:58 PM



Very nice my friend! Those will help set it off just right.
helmet1978 JUL 17, 01:06 AM

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Originally posted by aaronkoch:

Just ordered rims & tires.

Tires:
Bridgestone Potenza RE760 sports

Fronts: 215/45
Rears: 245/40

Can't wait til they get here!



Sweet! You'll have to let me know how those tires are. I'm going to need new ones this winter and those are same size combo I'm running now.

Paul
aaronkoch JUL 17, 11:01 AM
Helmet,

I'm actually thinking about running my motor on rubber mounts: The factory trans mounts should work, I'm just not sure on the motor mounts. What did you use for mounts? I can't remember when I saw your car.. Did you get Purple Reign's mounts, or use rubber?

Joe was mentioning that I can use the dodge truck mounts for the engine mount.. I guess I'll have to get the motor here and just look at it..

aaronkoch JUL 18, 12:29 AM
Ok, so the local parts store is trying to kill me, softly. 2 weeks ago I ordered reman calipers all around, and rotors/pads. He looked them up in the computer and told me they had enough at the warehouse, and they'd be in in a week. I paid him a deposit, and called in a week. "Nope, still not here, I'll call and ask where they are..."

A week after that, "Nope, still not here, I'll call and ask where they are.."
Well, he called me today, and said that Wagner would only send the whole order to him, and they were waiting on the shipments to arrive from all over the country, and apparently I ordered the very last 2 rear '88 calipers in the country. *sigh* I try to do the nice thing and support a local business instead of a national chain and it makes me cry. I told him I would have to have them in hand by next Wed. or I wanted my deposit back. Then I went and tried to find some elsewhere, holy crapola, these are HARD to find! So.. I'm waiting ... waiting..

Meanwhile, I ordered my flywheel. Got the '97 camaro 3800 flywheel, and good lord is it heavy. Good thing I'm shaving 6 lbs off.. There are a few balancing drill marks in the front that will change a bit with the machining, just hoping the few grams won't matter too much. The bulk of the balancing weight is in the non-clutch-surface of the flywheel that won't be machined, so here's crossing my fingers.

For those of you who have done this before, with a NA motor, I shouldn't need to have it rebalanced, right? I figure the 3800 in the camaro is an NA motor like the 3800 series II I'm using..
RideZiLightning JUL 18, 12:58 AM

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Originally posted by aaronkoch:

Quick update:

My giant order from the fiero store showed up, containing lowering springs, ball joints, tie rods, poly all around, kyb's, strut plates, and stainless brake lines. They were kind enough to give me the PFF credit after the fact (I forgot about it when ordering).

Well, last night I tore into the cradle, removed the knuckles, lateral arms, and trailing arms, and burned the rubber out. I think that smell will haunt me for quite a while..

Also, since nobody has a trick for removing the giant mounting "pins" from the front uppers, I just removed all the rubber, and will send them off to be powder coated as-is. When I was removing the front ball-joints, I noticed that the uppers had never been changed, so I had to grind off the rivets. Also, the lowers weren't help in by the retaining clips (although they were tight in there..). Is that factory?

At 8:45PM, I broke my T-55 driver, and had to resort to sears for a new one, too bad they only sell that size in a pack of 4 (big torx sizes) for $39.99. Holy crap, no wonder the store was empty.

So, THANKFULLY, all bolts played nice and came right off. With any luck, by tonight I will have the cradle free, and hand all the stuff off to joe for powdercoating.



You coulda saved so much money on everything buying elsewhere and have gotten better tie rods and ball joints from Rodney plus more with the extra cash

The Fiero Store is a great resource and they are a good place, but not cheap for the stuff you bought