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ltlfrari AUG 23, 11:07 PM
PFF = Pennocks Fiero Finale !

Archie, you are THE man !

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Stinkin_V8 AUG 24, 01:00 AM

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Originally posted by Archie:
... Saskcan'tspellitall...

LOL!!!


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So help me out here guys, I wanna name this thing for "The PFF Connection" that Cliff has setup here.

Archie


"PFF Connection" - I like that one as-is. Some other "Connection" words from Thesaurus.com:

Nexus
Reciprocity
Network

Jake_Dragon AUG 24, 06:20 AM
PFF Compliment
PFF Faction
PFF Camarilla
Reborn Finale
Oreif AUG 24, 08:34 AM
How about:

Finale PDF (Pennocks Designed Finale) (and with a V-8 will be Pretty Damn Fast )

Or

Pfinale Ausster (P for Pennocks "pf" is usually sounded as "f", and the AUS for the concept artist)

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Happiness IS the corner.

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AusFiero AUG 24, 08:41 AM
Well to keep it simple if PFF is part of it how about the PFF Spyder. It could even look ok as a decal.
LZeitgeist AUG 24, 09:18 AM
I've always been curious... where, in the history of automobiles, did the word 'Spyder' come to mean 'roofless car'? I can't remember where I saw it first, but it never made sense to me.

What do the various terms actually, accurately signify?

  • convertible - has a permanently-attached retracting roof mechanism(?)
  • roadster - has no attached roof mechanism, and may or may not have an accompanying hard or soft top as a separate piece or pieces(?)
  • spyder - (?)
  • cabriolet - French(?) for convertible, with the same definition as listed above(?)
  • speedster - variation of 'roadster', with the same definition as listed above(?)

Any other designations for types of roofless cars?

(I'd start a separate thread for this, but it seems to be a narrow topic of interest, it only has marginal On-Topic connection to Fieros, and it sounds like most of the true 'convertible nuts' are here in this thread, and the diifferent terminology/definitions may help come up with an accurate moniker for this beast... )

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Patrick W. Heinske -- LZeitgeist@aol.com
1988 Red Fiero Formula Convertible

JacobHaley AUG 24, 09:47 AM
PFF Spyder is my favorite so far.
LZeitgeist AUG 24, 09:51 AM
Got curious, did some digging:

  • Barchetta: Term used by Alfa Romeo, Fiat, Ferrari and Maserati for some of their their convertible models.

  • Cabriolet: A cabriolet is a light, two-wheeled horse-drawn carriage with a folding 'calash' top, seating two persons behind the driver's box. The vehicle was developed in France in the early 19th century, and quickly replaced the heavier hackney carriage as the vehicle for hire of choice in Paris and London. The modern term (taxi)cab comes from "cabriolet" via "Hansom cab". Term used by Ferrari and Volkswagen for some of their their convertible models.

  • Convertible: A convertible is an automobile built with a folding, retracting, or removable roof. The collapsible roof section is typically made from flexible canvas or vinyl, although plastic, aluminium and steel have occasionally been used in elaborate folding designs. Unlike a roadster, which may also have a folding top, a convertible has roll-up glass windows in the sides, and so the entire vehicle is "convertable" to an enclosed coupe. In Europe this type of automobile is sometimes also called cabriolet or cabrio.

  • Hardtop: Originally referred to a removable solid roof on a convertible; later, also a fixed-roof car with no fixed window frames, which is designed to resemble such a convertible. The doors have no window surrounds. A pillarless hardtop (the most common kind) is completely open on the sides with the windows down.

  • Roadster: A roadster is two-seater open car, traditionally without side windows, so that even with the lightweight convertible top raised the driver and passenger are still exposed to the elements. In modern times, the word is often simply used to describe a two-seater convertible, especially a light-weight sportscar. Traditionally, roadster bodies were used on anything from a Ford Model T to a Cadillac V-16. It was a body style favored by those who preferred enjoyment to practicality. Roadster-bodied cars are popular with collectors, and are often valued higher than even other open styles.

  • Speedster: Seems to be more or less a coined term used mostly by Porsche and Opel to identify certain models of their roadsters/convertibles.

  • Spyder: 'Spyder' is another term for a convertible automobile. The first Spyder was the Porsche 550 Spyder, unveiled in 1953 at the Paris Motor Show, and the term implied an even more spartan top than the similar roadster. This meaning has been lost, and the term now has been used by many automakers as a synonym for convertible, notably on the Toyota MR2 and Mitsubishi Eclipse.

  • Targa Top: A targa top, or targa for short, is a semi-convertible car body style with a removable roof section and a full width roll bar behind the seats. The rear window can be fixed or removable. The word targa comes from the Porsche 911 Targa (which itself was named after the Targa Florio road race), one of the first cars with this body style.In common usage, any piece of metal or trim which rises up from the side of a car and continues in an uninterruptd line over the roof and down the other side may be called a targa band, or sometimes a wrapover band.

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Patrick W. Heinske -- LZeitgeist@aol.com
1988 Red Fiero Formula Convertible

EDIT - thanks for the reminder, Formula88

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LZeitgeist AUG 24, 10:12 AM
Finale Cliffster?
MinnGreenGT AUG 24, 10:13 AM

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Originally posted by Oreif:

Pfinale Ausster (P for Pennocks "pf" is usually sounded as "f", and the AUS for the concept artist)


I like the base of this idea... how about the PFFinale - then you can add whatever word (I still like "Apex")