1927 Pontiac Fiero (Page 8/41)
toddshotrods JUL 20, 11:30 PM

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Originally posted by Gokart Mozart:
Behind your head you can hear your passenger screaming for dear life...





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Originally posted by Gokart Mozart:
Can't wait to see it at the 25th. ...


Don't hold me to that. My plate is pretty full right now, but if it is possible...


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Originally posted by Gokart Mozart:
...can you draw in the wheels? Not exactly sure on the front end. I'm thinking it's going to be in front of the nose cone...


I'll work on it. I like being able to see the body clearly in that sketch. What I really need to do is get this body modeled so we can see it from all angles.

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Scott-Wa JUL 20, 11:41 PM

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Originally posted by tednelson83:


i want one of these! that pic is awesome, i would love to drive that to a show, tho i think i would do something a bit different with the nose, im not so sure i like the gun thingy on the front.




That's not a gun, that's the drive and it's on the rear. Look for "The Last Exile" anime series, I like that one, haven't finished watching the whole series yet though. I'm sure you can find it as a bittorrent, going to be harder to find otherwise.
toddshotrods JUL 22, 02:22 AM

I was "sitting in" the mockup today and realized that I could move the seats back quite a bit. I usually like to drive in the long-arm/long-leg position (seat pretty far back) and that is what made the nose so short in the last sketch. After moving the seats back, I found out that I can pull the steering wheel back twelve-inches, and still be reasonably comfortable!

I have a long way to go on the new sketch, but this is a "sneak peek". Much better balance, yah?

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tednelson83 JUL 22, 04:13 AM
much better, i like the "fin" behind the back seat!
toddshotrods JUL 22, 12:28 PM

A little more detail. Not sure how I would accomplish the Indian head cooling intake.


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Originally posted by tednelson83:
much better, i like the "fin" behind the back seat!


Thanks. The "fin" serves a double purpose. Of course because it looks good; and because I can add protective materials to the inside, for heat, fire, and broken engine parts.


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The Poopsmith JUL 23, 11:56 PM
I am glad to see you gave front/back seating a try I think that will be one of the more interesting pieces of the car to see how it turns out when you work on it. I am liking the over all look of the car with every design change. I will admit I am not the biggest fan of the large Pontiac logo on the side I liked the original design more as I think the Pontiac logo is a bit distracting from the rest of the car mainly due to it's size. I would vote yay for 100 spoke Daytons, they are a good wheel to fit the look of something old and steampunkish.



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Originally posted by toddshotrods:

1930's Auto Union Silver Arrow




This car is one of the cars I immediately thought of when I first read about this project and it holds high marks in my book of awesome.

Daniel

toddshotrods JUL 24, 02:17 AM

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Originally posted by The Poopsmith:
...I am liking the over all look of the car with every design change...


Thank you. You guys have been invaluable to me in developing the concept. I like this project more and more everyday, and can't wait to get started building the frame and body! I had to force myself to go back to work on the Camaro, so I would have a hot rod on the street for the second half of the season. I am hoping the Camaro brings in some extra work so I can start dumping some time and money into the Timepiece...



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Originally posted by The Poopsmith:
...the large Pontiac logo on the side... is a bit distracting from the rest of the car mainly due to it's size...



I was just having fun. I did figure out how I can make the Indian head intake (if I decide to use it). If I model it, I can have it cut in wood at a local art & sign shop. I can have the "negatives" cut and use them as molds to make fiberglass pieces, that would be covered with copper leaf foil and clearcoated. I also found copper mesh:





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toddshotrods JUL 25, 02:20 AM
I keep going over this and over it again, in my head, trying to find the pitfalls. Building the frame, and developing a running rat rod-style chassis is relatively easy for me. I think the body is where the project could get off track. All it would take is a couple day-to-day life distractions to leave me sitting with a half-finished car, and frustrated outlook. So, I am thinking about this:

It cuts my fiberglass work down to a few tasks, as opposed to developing an entire body from scratch. I would purchase a cheap T-bucket body, and track style nose - total cost around $600 delivered. I would have to narrow the body and create the "hood" and rounded cowl to connect the nose and body. I would also have to fill in part of the grille area. Here's the body and track nose:


Finally, I would create the turtle deck powertrain cover, which is a fairly simple shape to accomplish. Go get my title, and I would be on the road...

So, do you think it still looks good and the compromise is worth it - or - too much is lost??? I have to make up my own mind what will work best for me, but I would like to know what you guys think.

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Gokart Mozart JUL 25, 08:25 AM
I think your drawing makes it look like a pickup but wouldn't the engine be as wide as one person moving the rear flush?

http://www.poli-form.com/Ga...mages/27roadster.jpg

go for it

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toddshotrods JUL 25, 11:12 AM
You see well grasshopper. The deck wouldn't be completely flush but not as far in as my rough sketch suggests. I want the main body to be wide enough to have lots of elbow room inside, but obviously not wide enough for side-by-side seating. The deck would be a nice snug fit over the powertrain, so there should be a slight difference - probably somewhere between my sketch and the roadster pic you linked.

I also changed the shape to a slightly more boxy shape than the Ford, to be sure it doesn't look like a Ford T-bucket! The body would be significantly changed as well. I would shaved the door outlines and remove the upper lip. The top edge would be rolled over into the interior. The cowl would be completely replaced, so in the end there wouldn't be much similarity to a "Ferd".

I hope to add some more detail to the sketch today. If so, I will post new pics later.

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