Pantera parts ! (Page 7/75)
DotTC AUG 01, 10:20 PM
oohhhh.. if you need another car to do a trial fittin on I'll donate mine

beautiful

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1988 Aero 88 coupe.. 2.8l v6.. more mods to come.
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PaulJK AUG 01, 10:52 PM
bump [with an eye out for the GT5 kit]
blackrams AUG 01, 11:48 PM

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Originally posted by DotTC:

oohhhh.. if you need another car to do a trial fittin on I'll donate mine

beautiful


I'll let you know, but that'll be a long drive just to see if my rebody will fit on your car.

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Ron
aka: Blackrams

Will AUG 02, 12:36 PM

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Originally posted by opm2000:



How wide are the fenders compared to stock Fiero fenders?

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blackrams AUG 02, 07:32 PM
Working from memory, I would estimate the fenders are over an inch wider out from the stock Fiero, but I'll check this weekend and try to give you some better info. Remember, this is not the wide body kit, wide body fenders can be added to this, but we're taking this one step at a time, wider fenders may come but we're gonna finish this car first before we start modifying stuff. We are mounting a wing and a spoiler to this also.

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Ron
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opm2000 AUG 03, 09:04 PM
As Ron said, we do have the mold for a front spoiler, or air dam. It sort of depends on how you look at it. Remember, this particular car is a 1972 pre-L, so the front spoiler is made to blend into the stock fenders & fender flares. The later Group 4, GT5, and GT5-S had the wider wheel flares, and I think the front air dams went thru a sort of evolutionary process. I've certianly seen many different types of front air dams, as far as little differences go.

This is our current air dam, fresh from the mold.

and this shows the inner lip, which is fitted up against the body fender. Plenty of width to cleco, rivet, bolt or bond onto the front clip. I think I'd prefer to glass it on, myself.

This shows it just blocked up in place. It needs a bit of sanding away at two points and it will have a nice flush fit with the fenders. This will also raise the aft edge enough to mate with the nose clip, just under the lower radiator inlets.

The bowing in the center is due to the way it's blocked up. The part is actually quite stout as it is. One other way to mount it would be to leave the air gap at the aft edge, and shape the lower side of the "wing" into an inverted Clark Y airfoil shape. This would then give you true down force at any speed above 40 mph.

Also from this view, I can see how this air dam could easily be modified into a GT5 type by blocking in the areas from each side of the radiator inlet, continuing outward to the foremost point of the fronts (under the turn signals). Either making these areas flat, or putting in either an air inlet or a driving light, would put us in the ballpark.

I think here you can see how the sides taper nicely into the fenders. If we added wider fender flares, some might want to extend these sides into the flares, and that will be addressed this winter.

VISCERAL AUG 07, 10:51 AM
I need a fix man! I need more photos. I GOTTA HAVE IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
opm2000 AUG 07, 07:28 PM
Hang in there, good things take time. Here's a Geo Tracker tail light I got on Ebay for $10.00. At a local car show, Roger Garrison pointed out a Countach that had these, and they looked very nice. Dimensionally, they are just about thesame as the Pantera tail lights I showed you previously. I still want to recieve these and try them in the frenched bucket to see if they fit well.

The same shape tail light also came in this version:

The prototype Pantero has stock Fiero tail lights, which work very economically, and look reasonably close to originals.
opm2000 AUG 07, 07:47 PM
Most of the past week has been spent rearranging the shop. I'm getting a dedicated 200amp service installed. And this was ready to roll out, my own Pantero donor. That's a 4" chop.

The nose clip is ready to polish, buff and wax, and hopefully do a layup by next weekend. That's a big maybe.

We are ready to start installation on Blackrams Pantera, now. I have enough material to start recording the assembly manual. JP, down in Knoxville, suggested recording cd's on MS Notepad, saying every MS computer would be able to open it. I also have MS Word. Any thoughts on this? I want to creeate a cd manual full of text and photos, to walk folks thru basic installation of body parts. Chester has offered his considerable talents with a dvd, but we live a few miles apart, and continuous coverage might be hard to achieve.

BTW, the Pantero was invited to this car show. I was more than happy to oblige, and hope to see some of you folks on August 28th.

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[This message has been edited by opm2000 (edited 08-07-2004).]

opm2000 AUG 07, 09:51 PM
I tried checking the width of the rear fender wells just by using a plumb bob and tape measure. I'm taking a rough guess at 73".

If you take a tape measure & stick it into the fender well, just ahead of the strut (so this isn't dead center) I measure 18" out to the fender flare. I measured @16 1/2" on a stock Fiero.

These are very rough measurements, I'll get some exact figures when I can take off the wheels.