The Official VR6 Engine Swap (Page 64/73)
TommyT913 JUL 01, 11:57 AM
It was definitely Joey. Maybe I'll come by the shop today. I have to run down to Shore Motorsports in Toms River to pick up some clamps. You're on the way back. Maybe I'll come in my german car.... It's a german Ford but german none the less. I'm eager to get a ride in a 3800 S/C Fiero.

See you later.

Tommy
Vonov JUL 02, 07:40 AM
(sniff, sob) 's beautiful, you guys! Absolutely stellar work...and Joey, I REALLY like the artwork design. The car looks radical without being cheesy. Way to go, both of you.
sabooo JUL 04, 01:08 PM
The VR6 brought Joey for a visit today, and please let me tell you - you WANT a VR6 fiero. My initial impressions were that the car was quiet and refined. The swap is certainly cleanly done, but we knew that.

What I hope you get to hear one day is the exhaust note of this car under acceleration. At one point I actually just closed my eyes and listened to it. This, in my opinion, is EXACTLY what this car should sound like.

Nice job Dave & Joey!

Some pics (sorry Joey - I know it's got some road dust on it!) :









sabooo JUL 04, 04:32 PM
Grabbed a few quick vids too.





Austrian Import JUL 06, 02:52 PM
sabooo, thanks for the pics & vids!

That engine sounds awesome. Even better than before! Very throaty, and sports car like!!

BMWguru, could you take more pics of the car (if Joey lets it stand still long enough)?
Could you also take pictures of the engine with the plastic cover removed? The engine looks too great to cover it with plastic. (or you could have the shop airbrush it really cool)
Also, take pics of the new exhaust.

(artsy shots courtesy of www.motivemag.com)
Vr6-12v engine without cover:

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Vr6-12v engine with cover:
Painted:



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The Vr-6 24v looks even better (without cover), but that's a different animal altogether.





(with custom plate)
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Dennis LaGrua JUL 10, 11:23 PM
The interesting thing about the VR 6 is that it is uses a unique cylinder spacing. The cylinders are angled ( spaced) only 10.5 to 15* apart. American engines are 60* and 90* but this one is 1/4 of the closest V6 engine cylinder spacing manufactured stateside. The other remarkable thing about this "V6" is that it uses only one cylinder head like a straight six. As such it has a straight six firing order.
All in all this is a very unusual swap that is bound to generate much controvery at every show that it appears at. It looks like it really goes well and it has looks to match. I'd like to know what its capable of in the 1/4 mile as that would be very interesting to see.

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" THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, 3.4" Pulley, N* TB, LS1 MAF, Flotech Exhaust Autolite 104's Custom CAI 4T65eHD w. custom axles, HP Tuners VCM Suite.
"THE COLUSSUS"
87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H
" ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "

IVANNATINKLE JUL 11, 12:27 AM
also im pretty sure there an aluminum block,,,, 3.8 iron... the vr6 is a super light motor compared to how much power there capable of putting out.
ever think of doing a 1.8 t swap?
bmwguru JUL 11, 07:27 AM
They are a aluminum head and iron block. It is a pretty light engine. I would definitely concider swapping a 1.8t in the future, if a customer of the Haus desires.
On page one of this thread I have a pic of the VR6 with the head off to show the cylinder spacing. The engine's setup it what gives it the unique sound.
Dave
TrackMagicWS6 JUL 17, 02:49 AM
Tell me what you think about the Mercedes OM642 engine. Would it be possible to bolt up to a VW tdi Trans?
Dennis LaGrua JUL 17, 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by TrackMagicWS6:

Tell me what you think about the Mercedes OM642 engine. Would it be possible to bolt up to a VW tdi Trans?




If the engine fits the Fiero engine compartment space; I'm sure that Dave can swap it in but knowing the amount of work that went into his car (oops her car) , you'd need a big bankroll to achieve that objective. This VR6 swap probably has 100's of hours of labor in it. IMO its not a practical swap but a custom one off creation that's a labor of love for someone who wanted something very different. Dave and Joeys VR6 Fiero is certainly a technological achievement and I doubt that we will ever see another one built like it. Now that this beautiful Fiero is finished, its time to show it off folks.

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" THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, 3.4" Pulley, N* TB, LS1 MAF, Flotech Exhaust Autolite 104's Custom CAI 4T65eHD w. custom axles, HP Tuners VCM Suite.
"THE COLUSSUS"
87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H
" ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "