88 Coupe 4.9 Swap Thread (Page 62/69)
josef644 NOV 19, 08:05 AM
Going to look at this car in the morning. Maybe bring my 88's sister home to Texas.
josef644 NOV 20, 06:09 PM
Yellow Formula was wrecked last night at 8pm. It will not be coming to Texas.
katatak NOV 20, 10:49 PM

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Originally posted by josef644:

Yellow Formula was wrecked last night at 8pm. It will not be coming to Texas.



Aw.........

Was'nt meant to be Joe!

Pat
josef644 NOV 21, 10:08 PM
The owner called me Friday evening. The kid across the street from him backed into it with a large truck. The pole bumper went threw the windshield, and damaged the drivers door a bit. Maybe a few other things. I just lost interest in it at that point. Oh well, back to working on my car tomorrow morning. We spent the weekend in New Orleans, La.

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josef644 DEC 13, 07:48 PM
I haven't done much out on the Coupe for a while. I removed the harness a while for a rebuild and started putting it back on the engine. I had made some of the connectors to short, and a few to long again. I took my side cutters and removed all the plug in connectors from the car. I tagged each and took a picture of each for re installation. I boxed it all up and off to Injection Technology's it went . I got my harness this past Friday. Spent Saturday with the North Texas Fiero Club. I was able to look threw the harness yesterday and was able to talk to Katatak in El Paso about the routing of the harness. He sent me a few pictures to clarify the way he laid it all out on his engine.

I was stumped by the Alternator connections. The connectors were all tagged. One was tagged in correctly. Also I had sent them the 10 gauge wire that mounts on the rear of the alternator, and then goes to the 12+ block underneath the C500. This was not returned with my harness, and has disappeared from the assembly room at 'IT' in Arkansas. I built me a new 10 Gauge wire to feed the alternator this afternoon. I had sent them the correct Oil Pressure gauge connector, and coolant sensor connector. Both of these were replaced with something else. So I have had to purchase new connectors for the coolant sensor/gauge feed, and a new 88 Fiero oil pressure sending unit.

The harness basically comes in two parts, the C500 and the ECM harnesses. There is a one wire connection that comes apart where the ECM runs the coolant fan. This is routed threw the C500, hence the cross over. I am going to add the correct coolant connector tomorrow, and add a two wire disconnect to it so these two harnesses are still removable separate from each other.

There are no instructions as to how this all was laid out on the engine when it was built, so you have to figure it all out by your self or ask someone as I did. It looks real clean and neat, but I still have a bad taste in my mouth by the incorrect marking of connectors and the switch out of the connectors I had marked and sent.

I will start connecting the harnesses tomorrow.

I have had a small leak on the forward brake line from the MC to the equalizer valve. I think I have stopped the leak today. I was able to get the pipe tightened down some more. Enough that there was no more turn left. Cleaned it all and will see what happens there. Refilled the MC and cleaned the old brake fluid off of the frame rail underneath.

Lots to do tomorrorw.

I received my raido from Mike OHIO a few days ago. I want to get it installed some time this week also. Picture stolen from his listing in the Mall.

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josef644 DEC 14, 02:14 PM
Installed the harness today. My OXY sensor was about 6" to short, so I will add some length tomorrow. I have replaced the connector for the temperature gauge to match my engine and added a disconnect to unplug the temperature gauge lead from the ECM leads. After I do the OXY sensor I will add the battery tomorrow. Maybe a ride.

The brake line fitting is as dry as one could wish for today. I'll call it fixed after a road drive one day this week.

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katatak DEC 14, 08:28 PM
Sounds like you have it whipped Joe!. I hear you on the "bad taste" thing. I really hate it when you spend good money for something and it shows up wrong! Guess that's why we strive to do "everything" ourselves.

Pat
josef644 DEC 15, 04:17 PM
Good day today. I inserted the necessary length of wire for the OXY sensor. I made a flat piece of metal to connect the two lugs of the power distribution block underneath the C500. This wasn't returned to me from 'IT'. Mounted the ALDL to the console. Noticed that there is not a lead in position 'G'. That should be the fuel pump powered up spot.

Attached the C500 connector to the car. Installed the battery.

I was going to raise the car up and attach the purple started wire, and noticed that my car still has this wire attached. It comes straight out of the Neutral /Park switch. I didn't have to remove it. So if I used this lead I would be bypassing the safety switch. I am just gonna keep what I have, and hope it will still crank to start up.

I did notice that where the harness plugs in to the N/P switch, it is yellow coming in , and purple coming out. There isn't a purple wire in the transmission part of that connector. So the 'IT' purple lead is dead anyway. No way the start signal could get threw to the starter with their harness this way. I called 'IT' about this and the ALDL 'G'. I got another "Sorry Joe".
Go Figure.

I have to connect the throttle cable and power brake vacuum hose back up. I have a few more wires to attach. The AC lead, and the red wire that was marked alternator, that needs to be connected to 12V+ somewhere. A few tie straps to attach to keep everything orderly and free from hot burns etc.

Brake line is still dry.

Later
Joe

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katatak DEC 16, 12:54 AM
Man Joe. Sorry to hear you are having problems with "IT". I bought mine through the Fiero Factory - it's made by IT but maybe they pay a little closer attention to the quality when they are building it for thier big customer? The only issue I had was that the fan runs constantly? Hope she cranks and fires.

Pat
josef644 DEC 16, 03:10 PM
Pat we just do the best we can. Sometimes that is good enough.

Wonderful news today. It is alive again.

I replaced the brake hose and a few of the other items I had left to do. I also enlarged the hole in the plastic pass threw for the firewall and installed it on the firewall. Turned the key and NADA no start signal. I used a piece if wire to jump across to the starter lead and it turned over, but would not run. I tried some gas down the throttle plated, and NADA again. Pulled the 12+ to the distributor, and the metal center was pushed back out of the plastic connector part. Removed the plastic part and plugged in the metal connector. Fired right off with my jumper.

Went to the other side of the car and pierced the yellow lead to the P/N switch at the C500, and then jumped it there. Fired right up. So I am not getting a start signal from the C500. This all worked fine until the 'IT' redo. I am not gonna blame them unit I have figured out the exact cause of this. I will get this figured out tomorrow. We are supposed to get up to 55 tomorrow. Good day for a ride.

Later
Joe

Went back outside for a little trouble shooting. The start signal is pinned in socket 'A4' on their C500. My car is wired 'E2" for the start signal. I will call them in the morning to see how to remove the metal pin out of 'A4', to re pin into 'E2". In all fairness I have determined that these 88 cars were wired in one of these sockets,or the other. And of course mine was pinned in the incorrect socket.

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