"The Survivor" build thread (Page 6/9)
fieroboom DEC 16, 08:45 AM

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Originally posted by pontiackid86:

good luck with that effin weder that thing has made me drink quite a few beers in my day.



Well, it's not that bad, especially if you're anywhere near decent with arc welding to begin with. It just takes a little more patience. I laid the hoist down so the vertical seams were horizontal, and I was able to lay a really nice filling bead on them.
fieroboom DEC 16, 11:31 PM
Ok boys & girls... Just so we're all clear, this hoist isn't just being built because I need one. I could borrow one, but I need the welding practice with this welder if I plan to do a tubular rear clip like I want to do.
So anyway, I've got some pics here for ya.
The first one is of the car flipped up on it's side, with the engine, transmission, cradle waiting patiently to the side:



Here you can see the top portions I cut and tack welded in.



Since this area is going to be highly stressed, I lapped the joint so there isn't just a flat weld bead there that can break. It's difficult to see in this image, cuz the stoopit camera hates closeups.



Here's an overall shot, and my woman enjoying holding my sawzall blade...





Here you can see my first set of real beads.



Tonight I mostly concentrated on filling & beauty welds. To do this, I build up a puddle, knock the slag off, level it out with a grinder, fill in the pits with another weld puddle, and repeat. Every time I grind, I take it down around the edges until you can't see the edge of the weld, ie, it all looks like one piece of steel. Then I note where the valleys and remaining pits are, and fill them in again. Eventually, I end up with a smooth joint like this, even though the pieces aren't squarely mounted together due to the angle. Doing it this way isn't the fastest, but I'm 100% sure that I have good penetration, and it's a solid steel joint that's not even really joint anymore...





Since it's difficult to get shiny metal to show up good on camera, I threw a little primer on my smooth welds so you can see what I ended up with:





It's been raining all day here, and it's humid as crap, so my rods started spattering real bad, and it was getting difficult to strike an arc, so I wrapped it up for the night.



Well, I hope I'm inspiring other broke or timid people to trudge on despite being broke, or not knowing what to do. Take life by the horns, and play it by ear.
I'm still hoping someone here has a store-bought hoist and a tape measure and can provide me with some rough measurements of the adjusting holes on the top adjustable lifting bar...? Anyone?
ltlfrari DEC 17, 01:01 PM
By 'hoist' do you mean as seen in this picture?




If so, let me know what you want measuring.

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Dave

www.ltlfrari.com

fieroboom DEC 17, 01:34 PM

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Originally posted by ltlfrari:

By 'hoist' do you mean as seen in this picture?




If so, let me know what you want measuring.




Yes! That's exactly what I'm talking about. All the measurements I need are on the top bar with the chain on it:
- I need to know the distance from the rear edge of that bar to where the jack bolts to it.
- Most of them have a telescoping bar with three positions. I'd like to know the distances of those holes from the rear edge of the bar.



Thanks so much!!

EDIT:
If it's not too much trouble, could you also tell me the length of the bottom bars (the ones with the wheels on them), and the total length of the top bar fully extended? Thanks.

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ltlfrari DEC 17, 05:58 PM
Here you go, hope this helps. My hoist is slightly different from the one shown. On mine the 2 ton position is between the pivot point and the strut anchor point (at the 9 inch mark).
I guess what really matters is the length from the end (at the pivot end) to the chain in the 2 ton position. On mine that length is 63 1/2 inches so using the measurements on the diagram, the beam length (from pivot end to chain) for each weight rating would be:

2 ton 63 1/2 inches
1.5 ton 71 inches
1 ton 78.5 inches
1/2 ton 85 .5 inches

If you need anything else, just let me know.



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Dave

www.ltlfrari.com

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fieroboom DEC 17, 06:46 PM

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Originally posted by ltlfrari:

Here you go, hope this helps. My hoist is slightly different from the one shown. On mine the 2 ton position is between the pivot point and the strut anchor point (at the 9 inch mark).
I guess what really matters is the length from the end (at the pivot end) to the chain in the 2 ton position. On mine that length is 63 1/2 inches so using the measurements on the diagram, the beam length (from pivot end to chain) for each weight rating would be:

2 ton 63 1/2 inches
1.5 ton 71 inches
1 ton 78.5 inches
1/2 ton 85 .5 inches

If you need anything else, just let me know.




Dave, you are teh awesome!! Thank you sooo much.
fieroboom DEC 24, 01:19 AM
Small update.
In the interest of time, I decided to cease & desist with the beauty grinding, and just get the darn thing welded and finished sometime before I die... I scored my "arm" for the top of the hoist, and the pipe that I'm planning to use for the upright from the jack to the arm. I'm glad I don't work for a welding company, because some of these beads are just rancid!

The pieces I got for making the top end were the tongue assembly of a tilt-tongue boat trailer. They're pretty rusty, but from a good look-over, they seem to be substantial enough just for what I'm doing. Plus, I can always upgrade the arm at a later time if I need to...
So anyway, got the hinge piece welded on:













And here is the top arm, in all it's rusting glory:





Propane tanks for use with upcoming air compressor project:



Just to be sure the top arm is substantial enough, I have some good thick angle I'm going to weld to the bottom corners. Also, the hinge area and where the upright pushes up on the arm will be substantially braced. I hope to get the tracks for the jack welded in tomorrow, and maybe have something that's close to working.
fieroboom DEC 28, 10:27 PM
Well, due to the lack of responses, I hope I'm not boring any of you... Just wanted to post a few images of tonight's work to keep the thread alive.
IMSA GT JAN 10, 05:56 PM
???.....PM Sent.
fieroboom JAN 12, 11:44 AM

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Originally posted by IMSA GT:

???.....PM Sent.



I got it. Thanks so much, sometimes a boost is needed to get re-focused! I haven't been able to do anything lately because the only DD car I had was my '88 DeVille with 207k miles on it, and things kept wearing out on it, so all of my time had to be diverted to working on it so I could make it to work, then I bought another vehicle for a DD and I'm having to fix a few minor issues on also. I should be able to hop back on it this week. I didn't really think anybody was interested anymore, so I haven't really been motivated to post anything.