Pantera parts ! (Page 55/75)
opm2000 MAY 03, 05:39 PM
Ok, Joe, I guess it's time to come out of hibernation.

This winter I started, but got nowhere near finishing, insulating and paneling the upstairs of my barn. Plan is to move all the good stuff stored downstairs up, creating a more usable floor space downstairs. Somehow I thought Ron would come by and finish things up for me. Oh well

Dennis, your more than likely correct.


The radiator opening is equal to if not larger than on a stock Fiero nose. The LT1 Yellow Pantera still has a radiator for a manual trans. A new radiator equiped for auto tranny is coming, but it's way down on the list. I did install a lower temp thermostat, and disconected the computer controlling the fan motors. I installed an adjustable thermostat controlled fan motor relay, and set it at the same temp as the thermostat. Seems to work so far.



The Pantera opening over the engine compartment sets @ 10" back from the rear window, and I assume functions the same as the stock Fiero ventelation set up. I've never done tuft tests to see whats going on when driving. Might be interesting. It does seem to allow the "chimney effect" to work quite well when just setting still.



Not a real good pic, but this Pantera is equipped with small scoops where the stock Pantera has "gills". I'm sure they at least contribute to air turbulance when on the road. Looks like tuft tests are due.

I don't have a pic right now, but on the choptop Pantera I tried to maximize the available opening for scoops, and tried to create a scoop that looked more like the Gills, but functioned as a scoop. You may have seen these at the 25th if you were there. On that Pantera, I also located the radiators for both the engine oil and the tranny oil directly behind the scoop opening. I'll get some pics soon.

To get things started, I had to replace the evil optispark on the LT1.


Mine is a '94, and so is blessed with the pin driven unvented optispark. Here you can see three small weep holes at the base. Also, unexpectedly, my ebay replacement came with one of the two required vent fittings, seen just below the weep holes...


So....


I plugged two of the weep holes and fitted a vacum line in the third hole. We will see.

Whenever you hear an LT1 owner talking about replacing their optispark, they usually have nothing good to say about the water pump. It is located just above the optispark and of course it also has a weep hole. GM, what can I say?



Anyhow, I tried a similar fix here as well...





Just for clarification, the clear hose is only a drain hose, no vacum source involved. I used clear tubing because there is such a small amount that actually weeps, I wanted to be able to see it. The tubing is routed so that it loops once, again so that I can see any trace of weepage.

The LT1 Pantera is a low bucks ( cough, gag ) project. I just put it together to see if it runs. If I can fix whatever is needed without removing the engine cradle, I will. But if I have to pull the cradle, then I'll do things like clean up the engine, valve covers, intake, make a lot of the plumbing and wiring disappear, put the battery up front, etc. If the new optispark fails, I will switch the timing cover & cam to accept a ventillated optispark, and replace the water pump with either an electric unit or try talking Darth into a set of his adapters to remote the water pump alltogether. But for now, it's down & dirty.

I fired up the LT1 and it runs. It has a miss, and hopefully this is just a mis-routed sparkplug wire or a loose sparkplug wire, a dying coil, or maybey a stuck injector. This could lead to the big teardown, but honestly I hope not.

The important thing is to gear up to get on with the choptop Pantera. A few more weekends of rearranging the barn and I'll be trying to finish it up.

See you in a few weeks, months, whatever.

David Breeze

[This message has been edited by opm2000 (edited 05-04-2009).]

motoracer838 MAY 03, 09:54 PM
Optispark, not one of GM's better ideas.

Stop messin' with the yellow one and get back to work already.

Cheers Beers n Gearz. Joe
motoracer838 JUN 28, 12:14 PM

quote
Originally posted by opm2000:


To get things started, I had to replace the evil optispark on the LT1.


Mine is a '94, and so is blessed with the pin driven unvented optispark. Here you can see three small weep holes at the base. Also, unexpectedly, my ebay replacement came with one of the two required vent fittings, seen just below the weep holes...


So....


I plugged two of the weep holes and fitted a vacum line in the third hole. We will see.

Whenever you hear an LT1 owner talking about replacing their optispark, they usually have nothing good to say about the water pump. It is located just above the optispark and of course it also has a weep hole. GM, what can I say?



Anyhow, I tried a similar fix here as well...





Just for clarification, the clear hose is only a drain hose, no vacum source involved. I used clear tubing because there is such a small amount that actually weeps, I wanted to be able to see it. The tubing is routed so that it loops once, again so that I can see any trace of weepage.

The LT1 Pantera is a low bucks ( cough, gag ) project. I just put it together to see if it runs. If I can fix whatever is needed without removing the engine cradle, I will. But if I have to pull the cradle, then I'll do things like clean up the engine, valve covers, intake, make a lot of the plumbing and wiring disappear, put the battery up front, etc. If the new optispark fails, I will switch the timing cover & cam to accept a ventillated optispark, and replace the water pump with either an electric unit or try talking Darth into a set of his adapters to remote the water pump alltogether. But for now, it's down & dirty.


See you in a few weeks, months, whatever.

David Breeze




Dave, when you get tired of messin' with the opti(no)spark ignition, these guy's have a much better idea.

http://www.eficonnection.co...nection/default.aspx

LS-1 pcm and dis on earlier sbc's, I'm planning on using their system on an LT-1 I'm putting in a '71 chev p-u.

BTW your long overdue for an update on the Pantero.

Joe

opm2000 JUN 30, 12:25 PM
Joe, that EFI system looks like the berries. My el-cheapo ebay optispark replacement seems to be working....but we all know it's days are numbered

Regarding an update:

Alas, my son announced he is to be wed in late August, and the wedding is to be at my house. Well, wonderful news, but then the war dept. (aka wife Patty) went into overdrive. I now have a 46 item "to do" list, including things such as a 600sq.ft. patio, several retaining walls, re-landscaping, ( I do these things for a living), painting, etc......I've been looking on the internet to see if they have a Honey Do Abuse Hot Line

Needless to say, my time is totally taken. Looks like nothing will take place untill the first days of September.

Then, I've got to refurbish a set of wheel flares and front air dam for a Pantera owner who lives in Columbus. This work is to include making a set of molds for said pieces as well. It will be interesting comparing the flares & airdam from a real Pantera with those I've created for the kit version.

I know that Blackrams & Fieroguru have almost got Ron's engine completed, and it will move on to some interesting work to convert it into a roadster version.

Good things take time.

David Breeze
motoracer838 JUL 01, 01:00 AM

quote
Originally posted by opm2000:

Joe, that EFI system looks like the berries. My el-cheapo ebay optispark replacement seems to be working....but we all know it's days are numbered

Regarding an update:

Alas, my son announced he is to be wed in late August, and the wedding is to be at my house. Well, wonderful news, but then the war dept. (aka wife Patty) went into overdrive. I now have a 46 item "to do" list, including things such as a 600sq.ft. patio, several retaining walls, re-landscaping, ( I do these things for a living), painting, etc......I've been looking on the internet to see if they have a Honey Do Abuse Hot Line

Needless to say, my time is totally taken. Looks like nothing will take place untill the first days of September.

Then, I've got to refurbish a set of wheel flares and front air dam for a Pantera owner who lives in Columbus. This work is to include making a set of molds for said pieces as well. It will be interesting comparing the flares & airdam from a real Pantera with those I've created for the kit version.

I know that Blackrams & Fieroguru have almost got Ron's engine completed, and it will move on to some interesting work to convert it into a roadster version.

Good things take time.

David Breeze



You know what they say, "life is what happens while your making plans for the future"

Joe
blackrams JUL 29, 03:45 PM

quote
Originally posted by opm2000:

I know that Blackrams & Fieroguru have almost got Ron's engine completed, and it will move on to some interesting work to convert it into a roadster version.

Good things take time.

David Breeze



Tell me about it. Yeah, before Fieroguru stepped in, I didn't think this was ever gonna get going. Well, he has finished his part and the Roadster "wanta be" is sitting in my shop where I'll pull the drive-train back out along with the gas tank and put her on a rotisserie, flip it upside down to start the re-enforcing phase. Then, the top will be removed and we'll start trying to modify and hang a Pantero body on it. Time and money are the only things holding this project back. Life is like that some times.

Ron
blackrams AUG 10, 11:49 AM
Any recent activity on the Pantero?

Letting small things like a wedding hold you back?

Ron
opm2000 AUG 10, 05:38 PM
Ron, shhhh !, the War Dept might hear you calling it a small thing.

It started with a small retaining wall & shrubbery to keep traffic off the lawn


Then I had to redo the parking lot bed, give it a wall, make it look decent


The roses were Mother's Day gift, guess I over inspired ms Patty


I had to edge everything, and mulch it, still need 4 more truck loads of mulch


And plant lots of new stuff


I took up the slate sidewalk and relaid it to "high heel" standards, for guests, I reckon


I pulled the old top off the well and built a 12'x12' deck over it, and replaced the pump with a new one


I built a retaining wall along the creekside of this level, and then built this 20'x30' patio up against the wall


I'm still not thru putting up lattice work everywhere


But I did get to redo the staircase and slate walk going up to the shop


I truly apologise to those true "car nuts" who don't care to see my recent trials. I can only say that after the wedding I'm installing my outdoor wood boiler furnace, primarily to heat the house, but also to heat the shop. I may just put a cot up there and stay the winter, working on Panteras.

David Breeze

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motoracer838 AUG 10, 08:38 PM
Wow, I didn't know that this was the Home & Gardens forum , when can you come out to Colorado and do my yard, I'll trade it out for fiberglass work!

you might be a king or a little street sweeper,
but sooner or latter, you'll dance with the reaper. Joe
opm2000 AUG 10, 09:38 PM
I know Joe, I know.

This stuff just tears at my soul.

BTW, I am looking for the throttle body from a 1993 LT1 w/auto trans. Seems it is the only one made with the trans kickdown lever.
I made up a bracket and used the 1994 throttle body on the yellow Pantera, and it works, but it would be nice to get the right gear in place.

David Breeze