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88GTS OCT 13, 11:36 AM
Don, Guru: Which VW/Audi engines are a direct bolt-on to either the 012 or 016 transmissions? Will the Audi 4.2 V8 bolt to either of them?


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Originally posted by 355Fiero:

Graham;

I had looked in to this transmission a while ago as well. It looks like a good option but from what I saw, not very easily obtainable. Not sure about the torque capabilities either but it is similar to the old 016 transmissions which can handle a V8 torque when taken care of. The 012 Audis are weaker though. g86 Porsche transmissions are better for this V8 application than an 012. The 016 trans has the shortest distance between bell housing surface and axle centers. Aside from this trans of course. Any trans setup you hook up to an SBC you will need an adapter and a custom flywheel. A fellow over on madmechanics can make an adapter and flywheel for you.

My opinion, and my opinion only, would be to either look at maybe an Audi V8 or look back at a transverse setup like Booz. All your project though so looking forward to seeing what you will end up doing.

Cheers
Don




355Fiero OCT 13, 03:47 PM
Graham.

I would be hesitant to remove the bearings from the transmission end of the belt drive. The trans bearings are not built to run with those side loads that you will put on them with the shaft not supported by some side thrust bearings.

88GT

From what I remember, the 016 was pretty much in the Audi 5000, 200 and 100cars which were all four cylinder engines. The 012 is mated to the Audi V8s so a direct bolt on should be a 4.2. I can't reminder all the combinations of engines to the 012 but most applications I have seen have been up with other engine choices so there is usually an adapter in between. I think engine man has the 4.2 in his setup over in Technical Discussion? doing a search on the 012 in Google should bring up cars and therefore engine matchup fro you.

Cheers
Don
Yarmouth Fiero OCT 13, 06:00 PM
Hi Don, I agree about the bearings for the gearbox output shaft. I suspect that atleast the outer one will have to be put back in the design. I am still looking into the belt tension required although my experience is that the cogged belts require far less tension than the friction V belt. As well, the carbon belts are quite resistant to stretching so there may not be a huge amount of side load applied to the gearbox shaft. Again, all things I need to confirm first.

So far the Audi 01E is showing the most promise for my installation.

355Fiero OCT 13, 11:55 PM
Yelp. I agree.

The O1e is probably one of the best you can get for these applications. Hard to get in North America though. More plentiful in Europe. There is a fellow over on gt40s forum that can get them over here for you. I honestly can't remember his user name. I will have a look and get back to you.

Cheers
Don
Yarmouth Fiero OCT 14, 08:59 AM
It looks like Advanced Automotion in Corpus Christi TX has a good selection of Audi transmissions. Has anyone ever done business with them?

http://advancedautomotion.com
355Fiero OCT 14, 03:12 PM
That's the guy. Erik from Advanced Automotion can help you out with the transmission. A very good guy to talk to as well. He is well known in the replica world fro providing excellent service.

Another option to look at is also the O1X which is very similar to teh O1E and more readily available in N/A. Again, Erik is the guy to talk to about this as he can set you up.

Cheers
Don
Yarmouth Fiero OCT 14, 06:25 PM
Thanks for the confirmation Don.
Yarmouth Fiero OCT 15, 12:24 PM
This is what I would love to do. Found this picture of a build by svsgt1 on a GT40 forum. Looks like he's done an amazing job installing an LS1 mated to an Audi 01e transmission. He even has the 180 degree headers.

Bloozberry OCT 15, 12:53 PM
That sure does look nice. The headers may be 180 degree, but they aren't equal length... that would take a lot more complexity. You realize if you go this route, you're going to have a lot of sucking up to do with your wife. I can just hear the conversation now: "What do you mean I can't have the entire kitchen and both bathrooms remodelled? I let you spend $20K on a stupid engine and transmission!"
Yarmouth Fiero OCT 15, 01:16 PM
I am sure I will not be the first guy or the last guy to have that conversation. But the bathroom is done so that should atleast get me a transmission. That's how it works right?