ecotec swap (Page 53/98) wftb MAR 30, 11:46 PM new engine going in : turbo on i did not do a cradle drop this time , i thought it would go in from the top without much problems . as it turned out i had to take off the alternator and intake manifold to get it in from the top .fired it up today and it ran like crap .then i looked at the throttle body and i had forgot to take the rag i had stuffed in there out .amazed it started at all but happy that it runs . Stubby79 MAR 31, 12:02 AM Good job! Great to see it's progressed to this stage. Congrats on the start up! Running rough is still running. wftb MAR 31, 08:00 AM got a request for a pic of my slave setup for adapting to the cavalier clutch hydraulics .i could not get that great of a picture : to do this you need the entire f23 hydraulic circuit , including the master cylinder.being from a front drive car , this assembly is very compact and fits nicely in the fiero engine bay .cut the banjo end off of the cavalier master cylinder plunge rod .leave the rod as long as possible .throw away the fiero push rod .bolt the fiero slave to the cavalier master as shown.i put mine as close together as possible to make it easier to bleed the fiero slave .the distance needed to disengage the f23 clutch is the same as the fiero clutch so you dont have to worry about moving the cavalier master too far .the cavalier hydraulics are self bleeding ,so i have been told .this setup has been trouble free .my old clutch line has rotted out finally , so i have to install my new fiero store stainless steel line . Neolithic Shadow MAR 31, 10:26 PM Hey thanks a lot, this has made it much clearer, i was just confused about using the f23 master cyl before. FieroFiend APR 01, 12:59 PM Interesting way to handle the slave issue but its much less complicated to mate the stock fiero clutch line to the f23 slave with a simple snip and hydrualic fitting flared on all easy to do. This is how I did mine. Austrian Import APR 01, 01:26 PM I hope doing an F35 tranny would be equally straightforward. wftb APR 01, 02:52 PM when i first got my car going i had a leak in the original clutch line and fixing it by flaring lines and adapting fittings was a struggle .so i did the hydraulics the way it is shown to avoid disturbing the old line .it has worked well , so even though i have now got a new stainless line i am using it as is .i also thought all the cavalier lines were made out of a plastic material and didnt think a splice was possible . i ran into a snag .the thermostat housing on my new motor is bigger and sits lower than the old one .so when i bolted the new motor to the old tranny , this happened : so i had to take the one off the old engine and put it on the new engine .not too big a deal , except it was ackward getting at the bolts with the turbo in the way .funny that with that big of hole , it wasnt a big leak .the shift cable mount was stuffed tight in the hole .ran it some today , starting to sound a lot better .still some sensors to hook up and it is running without the charge piping .it is burning off the pile of storage spray i put in the cylinders and intake passages as i built the motor .after it stops smoking , i have some nearly new spark plugs to throw in . FieroFiend APR 01, 03:20 PM Not all of the Jbody lines were plastic there were some that were rubber and metal instead, Im not certain what years were which. Neolithic Shadow APR 01, 05:32 PM FieroFiend..you have a pm wftb APR 04, 08:30 PM got my new exhaust welded together and hung on the car : it was too dark to get a shot from the back of the car but i finally managed to get everything tucked up behind the bumper .nothing shows but the outlets .started it up and i really like the new sound , a lot deeper tone .