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Yarmouth Fiero
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AUG 23, 05:21 PM
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Hi Austrian Import
I've read through the thread you attached. Wow... that is quite an interesting discussion accompaning the development. To be honest, I am only a humble marine engineer and the automotive world is certainly not my field of expertise. My plans are to simply replace the existing OEM suspension and brakes with aftermarket pieces that improve the handling and performance slightly yet retaining the original geometry as much as possible, keeping in mind I am doing an F355 that's low and wide. I do not possess the knowledge or experience to go much beyond that point. However, as an engineer I find the various threads fascinating and educational and am not above incorporating more significant improvements should they become available and I have the technical backup and support to implement them.
Thanks for asking btw.
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F355spider
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SEP 08, 10:43 PM
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Needs bumped to get in my post list.
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Yarmouth Fiero
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SEP 29, 06:51 PM
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With the 3" chassis stretch almost completed, the next step is the 3" stretch of the engine cradle. However, those pictures are on another memory stick somewhere here on my desk so until I find them, I'll post details of the progress to reinforce the chassis in way of the rocker panels. As you may recall, this project will be a 355 Spider so I have been researching and reading as much info as possible on the topic of chassis reinforcement......... and there are certainly many schools of thought on this topic. With some input and suggestions from other forum members, I have designed what I hope will produce a strong structure that resists bending and twisting without reducing ground clearance or interfering with the 355 body.
The reinforcement structure will be fabricated from a combination of 3" x 3" x 1/8" HSS and 3" x 1 1/2" x 1/8" HSS with 1/4" plate gussets in the corners for added strength. The front end will follow the curved surface of the wheelwell / A pillar, replace the factory sheet metal rockers, pass through the B pillar and then proceed upward at 60 deg to intersect the upper rear frame rail just forward of the rear wheel.


I know it may be hard to visualize the part without the drawing of the chassis included, however, that part of the 3D model is still in progress and I hate to post incomplete drawings. 
The drivers side was started first by removing the original rocker sheet metal. I left about an inch of the top so that when the new structure is fitted, it will be at the same height of the original rocker panel body work. I wanted to be sure the new structure was not so high as to interfer with the 355 rocker body panel.

We used a laser to shoot a straight line around the A pillar and B pillar before laying down some masking tape to assist in cutting the correct profile.


The bottom edge of the original rocker sheet metal was left as well and then folded upward to give some extra support to the new structure. The new structure will be welded along the top line of the rocker sheet metal, along the bottom flange of the sheet metal as well as a few plug welds along the inside door sill.


It was also necessary to remove the seatbelt anchor point. This will be added to the new structure in the factory location. This is a part most Fiero enthusiasts never see and never want to see. 


Once all the required sheet metal was removed, we test fitted the 3" x 3" x 1/8" HSS to see how it fits at the pillars, along the door sill and at the upper rear frame rail.




We are happy with the initial fit so now we will fabricate the structure completely and then fit it to the chassis and secure it in place. With the design and arrangement of the structure, the entire part can be fabricated and welded 100% off the car before final installation.
Once it is complete, we'll post pictures of the final installation of both sides. The next step will be to design and fabricate a structure to secure to the engine side of the firewall which will strengthen the chassis transverely by tieing both the upper and lower frame rails together. Once this is done, it will be time to make the big cut and remove the roof. 
edit: remove photo of family member[This message has been edited by Yarmouth Fiero (edited 02-23-2015).]
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fieroguru
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SEP 29, 07:39 PM
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Good job with the cutting... very small gaps between the sheet metal and the new tube. That will help a bunch when it comes to welding everything back together.
Just a suggestion, you might want to install the fuel fill tube to make sure it clears the reinforcement.
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Yarmouth Fiero
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SEP 29, 07:49 PM
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Thanks Fieroguru, we tried hard to get a nice clean cut on the sheet metal. When it comes time to tack and weld, it will press tight against the new structure I am hoping. There was some extra sheet metal inside those pillars that were spot welded and caulked. I don't know how they ever got the welding robot inside. ha-ha
The fuel fill is certainly a concern. I've measured the Blooz's car twice now just to be sure it will fit. It's going to be close for sure but with the body work being so wide back there I think it's just going to fit. Might only be able to get the tip of the gas nozzle in though Also, the vertical frame will line in under the upper frame rail which buys me a few more inches under the body work for the fuel fill.
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BV MotorSports
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SEP 29, 09:25 PM
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I noticed you are planning to run the HT suspension. I have it installed on my 88GT. The tubular fron suspension w/ coil overs is pretty sweet. My only complaint is how low the low mount hangs for the coil over. Its REALLY low. Just an FYI.
Awesome work so far!
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Bloozberry
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SEP 30, 09:50 PM
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What a great idea using a laser to find a straight line on those curved parts. I mean once you see someone doing it, it seems an obvious means, but it's thinking about it in the first place that's the innovative part. Super clean lines on those cuts by the way. I see you're letting the boys do the grunt work. I bet you just knew they'd eventually come in handy.
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Yarmouth Fiero
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OCT 01, 04:56 PM
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Thanks Blooz, the laser is just a hardware store one but it is so easy to shoort the lines. I need to get a little tripod for it.
Yes, the boys are doing as much of the work as possible.... under close supervision btw. But they are really enjoying it and will learn so much about the car.
I managed to drive fro Yarmouth to Boston with 6 boat models in glass display cases today without a single mishap so hopefully the windshields will make it home just as well. Keep your fingers crossed.
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Bloozberry
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OCT 01, 05:06 PM
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Lots of bubble wrap... lots and lots of bubble wrap. BTW, if you break one, it's yours.
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Yarmouth Fiero
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OCT 01, 05:11 PM
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I am hoping that they are still in the crate for shipping.
Just to be sure, I'll mark them before I leave so we know whose is whose when they arrive ha-ha-ha
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