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katatak
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JUN 18, 11:16 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by MstangsBware:
It did have right before I sold it. About a week before selling it a pin hole started leaking so had to swap in another one..Buy not complaning as the El Paso crew was a life saver.....have to throw in another thank you for all the help that night.... |
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No thanks required Stephen. Mi Casa Su Casa!
IOP2[This message has been edited by katatak (edited 06-18-2011).]
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MstangsBware
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JUN 19, 12:56 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by qwikgta:
Wait...... you can chop a T-TOP????? I thought that it was impossible to chop a T-TOP.
MORE PICS, MORE PICS.
Rob
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I have to say with Mike doing the work nothing is impossible....Every project I have seen Mike do has been done extremly fast, the right way and turned out looking better than what I have seen any others do it....He was the first to do an all glass chop and will be the first to do an all glass chop top T-Top...."He" that said it couldnt be done was just to lazy to try and others just followed....Just like glass side windows for chops.....All it took was someone really wanting them to make it happen...Then it went from it can't be done cause if cost to much to everyone getting glass side windows for there chops.......
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jscott1
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JUN 19, 01:03 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by qwikgta:
OK, ,so what am I missing. If you lay the window back, the T-TOP panel has to go back into the rear clip if it stays the same size. If you don't change the size of the top, then did you cut the top like the old school chops and lower the whole thing? I guess im having an issue with how its done, because I have looked at my top, and I can't see how you would do this and have the top line up with the windows.
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The difference is that in a "normal" fiero chop top the stock windshield is used only laid back 9 degrees and therefore the roof gets shorter.
In a chop top t-top the roof stays the same size so the windshield has to get shorter...hence Mike is using a custom windshield, (from a Sebring) I believe and he is also moving the cowl forward giving the car a more modern look. It is more work than simply making the roof shorter and that's one reason one hasn't been completed to my knowledge.
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F355spider
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JUN 19, 08:17 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by jscott1:
The difference is that in a "normal" fiero chop top the stock windshield is used only laid back 9 degrees and therefore the roof gets shorter.
In a chop top t-top the roof stays the same size so the windshield has to get shorter...hence Mike is using a custom windshield, (from a Sebring) I believe and he is also moving the cowl forward giving the car a more modern look. It is more work than simply making the roof shorter and that's one reason one hasn't been completed to my knowledge. |
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I might have leaded some to believe the windshield is cut down. It is not, I laid it back the same as I always do. I can take more detail pictures but if you look the windshield panel has not been cut or the a pillars. I did have to chop this car different than the others but all of the ones I have done are different in some way.
Gianina and I discussed it (I had to get her approval) and I like the way the Ferrari kits use the extended windshields and the way it transforms the look so I went with the Sebring windshield. She has two styles planned for this car. With either one the windshield will add to it. I can say it will have Celica blacked out angle eye headlights because they have already been ordered. I also want to test fit the production car windows that I think might work in a chop. This is only the beginning. jscott if she uses the Fbody interior I will need your help.
I also want to thank everyone for your interest and compliments.
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jscott1
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JUN 19, 01:56 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by F355spider:
I might have leaded some to believe the windshield is cut down. It is not, I laid it back the same as I always do. I can take more detail pictures but if you look the windshield panel has not been cut or the a pillars. I did have to chop this car different than the others but all of the ones I have done are different in some way.
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If you need my help no problem...
I'm not trying to steal your thunder, I'm sure this car will be unique in the way it's chopped. I'm just explaining the additional challenge of chopping a T-top. After the roof is lowered pure geometry would tell you that you have to lay back the windshield even if you were to cut down a stock one. I don't know if a Sebring windshield is taller or shorter than stock but it's probably different. I would love to see more detailed pictures how you did it. 
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F355spider
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JUN 19, 09:15 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by jscott1:
If you need my help no problem...
I'm not trying to steal your thunder, I'm sure this car will be unique in the way it's chopped. I'm just explaining the additional challenge of chopping a T-top. After the roof is lowered pure geometry would tell you that you have to lay back the windshield even if you were to cut down a stock one. I don't know if a Sebring windshield is taller or shorter than stock but it's probably different. I would love to see more detailed pictures how you did it. |
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No problem, The Sebring windshield fits the stock frame of the Fiero. It is a little longer and more bubbled that is why I have to move the wipers out. Picked it up from the kit car forum and it has been done there. I could put the Fiero windshield I took out in the opening but it is broken. I am telling you I did not cut down the windshield opening just laid it back like on the other chops. There is no thunder to steal my wife wanted a Chopped T-Top Fiero and she has one.
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As you can see the windshield frame is uncut. I hope that helps
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qwikgta
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JUN 20, 09:30 AM
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So from the pics its hard to tell, but did you have to push the back end of the T-Top panel into the roofline further than stock. It looks like the black plastic "filler" panel is missing. If so, then I can see how this may work, but when the glass is off, don't you have a small portion 3"- 4" of the sail panel extending into the removed area. If so then I finally get it. It works, and may look good when the glass is on, but how does it look with the glass off.
I'd love to see more pics, and some with the glass off.
Thanks agian for this thread. I've always wanted to chop my T-top.
Rob
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jscott1
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JUN 20, 11:26 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by qwikgta:
So from the pics its hard to tell, but did you have to push the back end of the T-Top panel into the roofline further than stock. It looks like the black plastic "filler" panel is missing...
Thanks agian for this thread. I've always wanted to chop my T-top.
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From this picture it appears the t-top is sitting in the same location with respect to the B pillars. If it wasn't that would mess up the sealing surface.
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qwikgta
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JUN 20, 05:59 PM
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This is a bad drawing but I think it helps what im saying.
If you change the angle at "B", it moves "A" back. If you move it back more than an inch, it will hang over into the sail panel, and I think, look goofey when the glass is off. I just want to see how the heck he did it. I have been looking at my top for years and I can't figure out how he did it.
Rob
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jscott1
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JUN 20, 07:00 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by qwikgta:
This is a bad drawing but I think it helps what im saying.
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I totally get what you are saying, but from the posted pic the t-top looks like the example on top, which is the same as a stock T-top.
I can't speak for Mike, but on my chop top t-top the windshield frames were cut down such that the "A" pillars were shorter. This required a cut down windshield.
I'm not sure exactly how Mike did it.[This message has been edited by jscott1 (edited 06-20-2011).]
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