88 Coupe 4.9 Swap Thread (Page 5/69)
josef644 SEP 13, 09:38 PM
I own page two. First time since I started here.

I do not plan on an oil cooler right now. I was reading a post by Ed Parks, ( Fiero Factory), a while back and he was stating that he did not prefer to use them. From his posting "we use 2 Dorman #090-040 20mm-1.5 drain plugs with a liberal amount of Permatex on the threads" Less problems with leaks I think he said. I am planning on running my exhaust out the rear with a round spun catalitic converter. Borrowed photo:


The front part of the cradle will not be heated by a converter and exhaust pipe like a 2.8 V6 is. I can add the oil cooler there later if I think I will need it. I did save the two metal lines that follow the shape of the rear of the block for the oil cooler if I installed one later. I plan on facrtory AC so this should be better for the compressor and AC hoses.

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fierocarparts SEP 14, 08:32 AM
I was on vacation last week. Glad to see that it is coming along so quickly for you. You know CopperBender is also working on a 4.9L 88, right? He has some good ideas also. I can see that with all the "local" 4.9L installs, mine should be a breeze.

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Fieroseverywhere SEP 14, 10:13 AM
For the injector harness, it can be removed from the fuel rail and the clips can be put back in from the bottom side. It makes it much cleaner looking without loom running accross the top of the fuel rail. Just a thought.

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josef644 SEP 14, 10:17 AM

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Originally posted by Fieroseverywhere:

For the injector harness, it can be removed from the fuel rail and the clips can be put back in from the bottom side. It makes it much cleaner looking without loom running accross the top of the fuel rail. Just a thought.




That photo was a borrowed one to show how I plan on doing my exhaust. Mine is an 88.
twofatguys SEP 14, 10:22 AM
Do you have an update on the air cleaner?

Brad
josef644 SEP 14, 10:31 AM
No , but I will mount the altenator today and sit my S-15 breather on it. I can get a good look at the fit and take a picture. I will post the picture of it this afternoon.
josef644 SEP 14, 10:37 AM
Fieroseverywhere you have a PM
josef644 SEP 14, 12:34 PM
Twofatguys here ya go.

First is the spacer. It has a black soft plastic seal on the top and bottom. It measures 1 3/8" on the contact to contact surfaces.


There is a indexing area that extends into the air breather to keep it from turning:


This shot is taken from above the breather. Notice that the hole in the center is not exactly in the center the "encentric ring". It measures from 1" to 2" depending on where you are measuring from:


With the smallest part of the TB hole to outside edge behind the altenator it will sit flat on the spacer. There is about 1/4" space between the breather and the altenator body:

A shot of a stock 2.5 set up. Notice the breather duct and the breather snout meet just south of the strain relief and the bulkhead. Just about where my 4.9 dipstick handle is. That is the area I am looking for:

Of course the "Snout" is pointed in the wrong direction. I plan on adding the snout off of a 2.5 so the air duct tube is lined up.


I am not sure if the deck lid will close with this configuration. The breather housing is about 4" thick. TBI base to the top of the breather with the lid on. I also have the 1 3/8" spacer on it. Here is a shot with the lid on and a 2X6 on top so you can see how tall this is:


In order for this to work, a 2" element and a flat lid could be used. The spacer only needs to be about 3/4" tall so the bottom does not rub on the fuel rails. And of course the snout intake would need to be relocated. The filter element is 3" X 10":



That said, the GM TBI hole is the same for the V8 and the V6 cars. I found this information on the Fel Pro wrapper my TBI gasket was in. So 2.8, 4.3, and 5.0, and 5.7 breathers 's all have the same size hole for the TBI. This one I am playing with here is off of my 89 GMC S-15 P/U.I am pretty sure the larger engines use a large breather body. I would think this is the smallest breathe of the bunch. Anybody else have a smaller one off of anything, lets here it. I am open to any and all ideas.
Joe

Edit ot add:
I just looked at the pictures again. It appears that the breather is over the dist and rotor. The cap is not on , so this might not work out. Raining again here, so I cant take the breather off of my truck right now . I need to aslo see how much room there is between the breather body and the battery lug on the altenator. Maybe later today.

Well I took another looka a while ago. I removed the spacer and added a few 1/4" sockets of about 3/4" tall on top of the throttle body.

I sat the breather on top, and turned the smaller side towards the distributor:


I think what I need is a 12" TBI air breather, that is 10" element, and an inch all the way aoround for air flow. Maybe I am beating a dead horse here.

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Mickey_Moose SEP 14, 01:46 PM

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Originally posted by josef644:
I do not plan on an oil cooler right now. I was reading a post by Ed Parks, ( Fiero Factory), a while back and he was stating that he did not prefer to use them. From his posting "we use 2 Dorman #090-040 20mm-1.5 drain plugs with a liberal amount of Permatex on the threads" Less problems with leaks I think he said. I am planning on running my exhaust out the rear with a round spun catalitic converter.



I am under the impression that you have to modify the oil filter housing as well (remove/drill something out) - I have not seen any specifics, so can't say for sure.
fieroguru SEP 14, 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by Mickey_Moose:
I am under the impression that you have to modify the oil filter housing as well (remove/drill something out) - I have not seen any specifics, so can't say for sure.



Here are some pics of the bypass mod.
http://www.westcoastfiero.c...l_filter_bypass.html