quote Originally posted by Sharkman: Have you mounted any of the parts yet?

Yes. The boot and bezels are on and the rt front rotor is off the car, ready for chroming. HRE wheels were shipped to HRE for super polishing, painting and backside correction. Part of the central hub was, "Buggered up"---so thats being addressed.

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2" lip

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quote Originally posted by FierociousGT: Please explain the back space correction. I'm understanding you are re adjusting the offset to the fender. If this is the case I thought you built the widebody to the wheel width?

Yes. As Troy mentioned, this set of HRE's are spares. This set was on Ebay back several years ago and where made to fit a Celica 5x100 bolt pattern. So why the needed adjustments? The bolt pattern is correct but it's the hub or the center that is "buggered-up." Apparently someone wanted them to fit and they bored-out some portion of the hub so that the wheel would fit "flush" on the rotor.

I had informed HRE (Vince) about my concerns and he stated, "We can correct the problem and any other adjustment if needed." Vince went into the "Archives" and found my various off-sets and compared the differences. We found that the Ebay rims are 32mm off-set based upon the old "log's" they have on file and the reference number stamped on the backside of every rim that HRE makes.

Vince will give me a call on Monday regarding the status which should take about 1-2 weeks for correction. Cost? $100 buck for labor, $100 buck for stripping of old silver center piece and repainting the 3rd center piece "High Gloss Black," & $100 buck for "High Polishing the 2nd piece (the ugly back-side) with a clear coat------totalling $300 x 2 = $600 buckeroos!

The 3rd piece polishing & clear coat ($200) is for the needed "pop." HRE suggested polishing vs. chroming due to the weight factor. The 1st piece (2" lip) was in pretty good condition with very minor scratches and a quick polish will fix those issues. As you perhaps know, the HRE (R) series rims weigh more than the old style due to it's increased lenght of the 5-star arms to achive the "Flat" surface. Whereas #011 and #020 rims are lighter due to its rounded second lip which reduces the lenght of the 5-star arms.


[example of 3.5" lip---547 non (R) old style)
#a - Black Center (w/chrome trim bolts)


547 (R) Series with extended 5-star arms and 2" flat lip:



Mind Playn' tricks on ya? I measured the two rims and found that the distance between the lip and where the extended arms are the same dispite both rims being 1-inch difference in diameter. Visually both rims appear to be the same in size. I plan on mounting 245/35's for the fronts, the same size that the Ferrari uses.

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#015 will sport 20x12.5 or 20x13 wrapped in 345/25/20's (Dubs) using a different off-set since there is more clearance on a 88 vs. 84-87 suspension. This may result in a over-all lip of 6". The 345's have been waiting in the wings for nearly 2-yrs for it's moment to "Pop" and to give the Arch Rival a "Ugly Ego" dualing.

Pipe dream conclusions of the 20x13 for #015's "Ugly Ego":

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quote Originally posted by FierociousGT: Please explain the back space correction. I'm

As you can see from this pic, the backside is/was "buggered-up" and HRE is correction this using a CNC machine at "no cost." The center bore will be drilled to 2.252 (stock Fiero). However, the center or 3-piece is costing me $180 per wheel and not $100 bucks per wheel. It's nearly double the cost due to the stripping and repainting the center piece. On the other hand, the 547(R) rims normally cost between $1600-1800 so I save a few bucks.

quote Originally posted by FierociousGT: I'm understanding you are re adjusting the offset to the fender. If this is the case I thought you built the widebody to the wheel width?

It seems to be pretty close to lining up as the 19x9's?

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I just recieved a phone call from HRE and although the rims have different inners and outers....both applications are the same as for sticking away from the fender. He asked me if I wanted to change out the inner 6.5" to a 7" making it a 9" rim and I said thats alright. HRE did thrown in some stainless steal fasteners which are lighter vs. the chromed steal ones for free...I said go ahead. At 23 pounds the 547R needs to loose some weight. It should take 1-2 wks for completion.

23 Pounder:







#011's test fit....too wide.



Edit: for 15x5 weights

I don't know the actual Fiero rim weight, but I have some shop rollers here using a 205R/60/15, 15x7. Tire tire is somehow of a may-pop with little tread life so the weights may vary, hehe.

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quote Originally posted by madcurl: rethinking old original idea: not a true representation of me thinking, but you get the ideal.

Last Friday I recieved a call from Vince @ HRE...the blacked two inched lipped 547R beauties are finished! Vince was suprised when he viewed the rims prior to boxing them. He said, "I had to ask the polisher..was the inners chromed?" The Polisher guy said, "No. The inners are polsihed with a clear coat." Vince continued to inform me that the power coated centers are nicely coated with a high gloss shine, the outers are highly polished, and the (buggered-up) backside is now like "new" and you can't tell if the rim is or isn't new. The finished product should look similar to the pic above but, with a highly polished inners.

We are now working on a set of 20x12.5 using the same back spacing found on #011 chopper. The "key" is too allow for switching between both the Arch Rival and #015 vehicals w/o having to modify #020. 20x13 would no doubt be an issue in this case, however it isn't an issue using #015 since it's a 88.

I should have some pics in few days using the "Chrome Dome" hats using the C5 rotors. The results should be similar to #011 Ryan Chrome Domes. I even had my work cars' rotors... chrome-domed, hehe. Darn salty air here in the Bay Area causes rust to appear everwhere!!! #015 isn't out of the game yet and well soon sport some newer and radical ideas vs. the Arch Rival. Stay Tuned.

Oh yeah, ...


Due to the width of the widebody leading to impaired side view vison:


I got my eyes on a pair 430's!

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