LSJ Supercharged Ecotec Swap (Page 43/45)
zkhennings DEC 06, 01:42 PM

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Originally posted by maccos:

Hey Guys, New to the forum here.
I have been watching this build for tips on my LNF ectotec build (although it is installed in a replica Ariel Atom I am building). I thought I would give back by passing on the information for my build for those that are interested in the LNF motor.
http://www.locostusa.com/fo...=36&t=14932&start=60
Also here is a website I started with the build blog and it also has a CAD model I created of the LNF engine for those who have CAD software, you can download it for free: www.modernkitcar.com
Thanks,
Scott



Sweet Build!
akademikjeanius DEC 28, 12:30 AM

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Originally posted by maccos:

Hey Guys, New to the forum here.
I have been watching this build for tips on my LNF ectotec build (although it is installed in a replica Ariel Atom I am building). I thought I would give back by passing on the information for my build for those that are interested in the LNF motor.
http://www.locostusa.com/fo...=36&t=14932&start=60
Also here is a website I started with the build blog and it also has a CAD model I created of the LNF engine for those who have CAD software, you can download it for free: www.modernkitcar.com
Thanks,
Scott



Firstly, welcome to the forum. Secondly, like previous poster said "sweet build!". Thirdly, thanks for resources shared for us Fiero enthusiasts to jumpstart our venture into the forced-induction Ecotecs.
maccos JAN 07, 09:24 PM
Thanks for the comments. I am working on getting an engine wiring harness diagram on the website so anyone who wants to put an LNF motor into any vehicle can do just that.
ccfiero350 JAN 08, 09:10 AM
I really like the LNF motor, wish they were more plentiful back in '07 when I started this thing. Now I can get one with a factory warranty for just a little more then what I paid for the LSJ drop out.

I do have a turbo setup for the LSJ, for later.

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yellow 88 GT, not stock
white 88 notchie, 4 banger

akademikjeanius JAN 15, 02:58 AM

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Originally posted by maccos:

Thanks for the comments. I am working on getting an engine wiring harness diagram on the website so anyone who wants to put an LNF motor into any vehicle can do just that.



Awe-some!! Truly looking forward to that.



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Originally posted by ccfiero350:

I really like the LNF motor, wish they were more plentiful back in '07 when I started this thing. Now I can get one with a factory warranty for just a little more then what I paid for the LSJ drop out.

I do have a turbo setup for the LSJ, for later.



Who would you go through for purchasing them?
KillerFrogg JAN 16, 10:44 PM

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Originally posted by akademikjeanius:

Who would you go through for purchasing them?



You can get an LNF/LDK (same thing, just slight variations in mounts for different applications) from ZZP. Brand new, $3,000, with turbo.

So no risk of damage from the previous owner, but you also need the computer, wiring harness, trans, axles (from my reading on here the cobalt axles work as is with the fiero)

Personally I am just going to find a body-totaled SS'balt when I do my swap so I have everything I need then just part out what is left after I peel the engine and its supporting hardware out to recoup what I can.

You can make ALOT of power out of these little 2.0L beasts, I mean even stock at 260hp/260ft-lb that is a good bit more than enough for a daily driver Fiero. Even with just the GM stage 1 kit or what ever it is, you get a little boost in HP, but it really lets the torque out of the box.

But I know not all of our cars are just daily drivers
wftb JAN 17, 06:42 PM
the cobalt axles from the turbo SS cars will not fit the fiero hubs .the LNF will bolt right up to the cavalier 2.2 eco 5 speed f23 and then you just use fiero axles .GM went heavy duty with all the turbo ss cars , larger wheel stud bolt pattern and different spline count on axles compared to the LSJ cars .so a wrecked cobalt SS will give you almost eveything you need but not quite .
ccfiero350 JAN 17, 07:20 PM
The key feature is the f35 tranny, on the lsj versions the outer spline matched the fiero hub. I can not vouch for the lnf versions of the same transmission, but it would seem improbable they would make a change in outer spline unless warranty issues or production consolation forced a change.

Anybody got an lnf axle from a manual to try out on a fiero hub? Also didn't they go to a six speed?

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yellow 88 GT, not stock
white 88 notchie, 4 banger

wftb JAN 17, 11:26 PM
went on one of the cobalt SS forums and found this : both supercharged and turbo cars use the f35 5 speed tranny .the tranny ends of both cars axles are the same .the lnf middle shaft is 34 mm dia. vs lsj 25 mm . the lnf at the hub is 32 mm 30 spline count .the lsj at the hub is 33 spline and 26.5 mm diameter .so no you cannot use lnf axles in a fiero hub .and the f35 is not known to be stronger than the f23 .it uses a jackshaft that helps reduce torque steer in a front drive car but does not affect any improvement in a rear wheel drive car .use an f23 and fiero axles and save yourself some work .anyway this is a great thread that i have been following a long time . hope it continues soon and i hope you are feeling better CC .
ccfiero350 JAN 18, 11:33 AM
That makes sense to me. I went to a larger bearing hub from the Vue/Equinox theta platform. I would bet they did the same and dipped into the gm parts bin and used the meaty stuff from the heavier car.

There sure were a lot of complaints about axles with modded lsj cars.

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yellow 88 GT, not stock
white 88 notchie, 4 banger