quote Originally posted by whodeanie: Reset! for pic's........................................ PLEASE!!!!!!

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This group of updates is going to be kinda complicated to keep in order.

We've been working on several different related & yet unrelated projects.

We've been working on getting the windows operating in the doors, while doing bodywork on the doors & surrounding areas. Part of getting the windows working is getting dew wipes mounted. We can't complete with windows & dew wipes without finishing up the bodywork on the doors. Can't finalize the doors without getting the door jambs in the right conditon. Can't finish up getting the door jambs done without putting in the gas filler. Can't finish up the door jambs & get the windows finalized without finalizing the rubber weatherstripping seals.......yadda, yadda, yadda....

So we will be jumping around, try to follow along, you'll see.

I don't even know where to start.....

Back on page 9 you'll recall that we were working on the operating system for the windows....



As we got back on the doors this last few weeks, we were establishing the seal areas around the doors & windows & found that it wasn't going to work properly.

We found that the window wasn't going to be in far enough against the seals to seal properly. Because the thickness of the doors gets narrower at the bottom, we couldn't kick the bottom of the window out far enough to bring the top in far enough to deal. Having the window operating hardware on the outside of the window just wasn't going to work for us.

As I said before, there is no aftermarket power window kit that is short enough to operate a 13" tall window in a 15" tall door. So we were going to have to use a modified Fiero operating system. That still is true but now it was going to have to be mounted on the inside of the window.

That is going to require that the inside top of the inside door panel will have to be about 1.5" thicker that the original Miura door panel was.

We were not sure how well all this would work, so we had to prototype it. The best way to do that was to take the parts out of a Fiero door & mock them up.

Here we've cut the whole inside door panel out of a Fiero door.

Don't worry, it looks kinda crude but it's gotta be done.....



Then we took that whole pc. & began to mock it up on the inside of our door....



Add some sheet metal bent on the brake & it's looking kind good so far.....The window deometry isn't going to work on the Miura but once we drill out the rviits attaching it to the Fiero inside panel we can move the elements around to work on the Miura window.



We also had to start thinking about how we were going to mount the dew wipes on the inside & outside of the window while still keeping them serviceable. More on this later.



You can see how the door panel will be out a little on the inside.



Once, we've got the basics figured out, it's time to make a real door panel out of sheet metal.....





Eventually we'll have to make the top part of this panel out of a seperate pc. to make it so we can mount the dew wipes...... but like i said more on that later.

This is what the door panel & window parts looks like off of the door panel.





Here we're working on the plan to make the top part of the door panel a seperate pc.



Here is a picture of the window side of the door panel..... notice that the top part is now a bolt on pc. (again, more on why we're doing that later)



Archie

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The inside & outside dew wipes was one of the hardest things to figure out how to mount while still keeping them to where service could still be done inside the door. After all we still are going to have to get insode the doors to hook up the door release hardware & some other things.

First we had to figure out how to mount the inside & outside dew wipes. On a stock Fiero the outer dew wipe just screws on & the inner one just pops on. We also had to curve the dew wipes to follow the radius up the trailing edge of the door. There was no way we could just abruptly end the dew wipe part way up the radius as it would look funny. Well we found we could build a fiberglass flange on the door skin for the outside dew wipe & attach it with screws. but once that was in place, there was no way to attach the inner one onto a similar flange on the inside of the window opening.

Here's the flange we made on the inside of the outer door skin to attach the outer dew wipe......





Here is a picture of the outer dew wipe curved for going up the radius at the traileing edge of the window opening. Note: the flat steel pc. made to spread the load when it's attached.......



Here it's held in place on the door......



Here it is with the dew wipe attached...



As you think about it, there's no way to attach an inner dew wipe because the window opening would be too small in width to allow you to screw on the inner dew wipe.

The only way to get the inner dew wipe attached was to make the door panel 2 pcs. & attach the dew wipe to the upper section of the door panel.

Here is the inner dew wipe attached to the upper door panel....



Notice the steel reinforcement around the curve. (Ya gotta love the plasma cutter for this kind of work.)



Here the assembly is being held up almost in place. The upper door panel will be heald in with 2 bolts at each end & the dew wipe is held on to it will several fasteners. Then the top of the lower door panel is attached to this pc.



Once it's figured out on one side of the car, it's easier to do the other side of the car.

All the time we've been doing this, Kris has been working on bodywork. That's next.

Archie

[This message has been edited by Archie (edited 11-19-2009).]